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Originally posted by DeUh:
You also said you would take Martavis Bryant over Sammy Watkins 24 / 7 .

I guess we will see right?
I won't forget about this post DeUh
Its on
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Originally posted by Quest4six:
Originally posted by DeUh:
You also said you would take Martavis Bryant over Sammy Watkins 24 / 7 .

I guess we will see right?
I won't forget about this post DeUh
Its on

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I think it's a great sign about the ability of Jason Verrett that the ONLY argument people can come up with against taking him is his height, essentially conceding the fact that the guy can cover and can cover very well . He's my pick if we can't get one of the better DEs available. I still believe try to create more chaos up front will help us more than putting two rookies and the secondary. But no one can make a serious argument against the ability of Verrett as a starter on the outside or as our slot corner (still a starter).

Good post!

It's not just his height: Also has strength, durability, injury, and mental mistake question marks
Weaknesses: Lack of elite height and length shows against most receivers. Lanky build and doesn't have the frame to pack on too much more muscle. Lacks ideal hand strength to consistently finish or easily shed blocks. Room to improve his tackling technique, especially in space, hitting too high and losing immediate leverage. Will pop up out of his backpedal too soon and needs to play with more consistent pad level in his transition technique. Needs to eliminate the mental mistakes with too many offsides and holding penalties on his resume. needs to do a better job finding the ball with his back to the line of scrimmage. Some durability concerns after several nagging injuries plagued him in 2013, most notably a shoulder injury.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1824936/jason-verrett
[ Edited by maxsmart on Mar 29, 2014 at 4:16 PM ]
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[ Edited by DeUh on Mar 29, 2014 at 4:21 PM ]
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Originally posted by maxsmart:
It's not just his height: Also has strength, durability, injury, and mental mistake question marks
Weaknesses: Lack of elite height and length shows against most receivers. Lanky build and doesn't have the frame to pack on too much more muscle. Lacks ideal hand strength to consistently finish or easily shed blocks. Room to improve his tackling technique, especially in space, hitting too high and losing immediate leverage. Will pop up out of his backpedal too soon and needs to play with more consistent pad level in his transition technique. Needs to eliminate the mental mistakes with too many offsides and holding penalties on his resume. needs to do a better job finding the ball with his back to the line of scrimmage. Some durability concerns after several nagging injuries plagued him in 2013, most notably a shoulder injury.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1824936/jason-verrett

Bucky Brooks on Jason Verrett:
Jason Verrett, CB, TCU: Verrett had already been on the fringes of Day 1 consideration thanks to his flawless game tape; this strong combine performance will undoubtedly thrust him into first-round chatter. He blazed the 40 in 4.38 seconds and posted one of the top vertical jumps (39.0) of the entire event. He followed up the strong showing in athletic drills with a terrific performance in the position-specific portion of the workout. Verrett dazzled scouts with his swivel hips and explosive breaks while also displaying strong hands and ball skills. Although Verrett's slender frame (he checked in at 5-foot-9, 189 pounds) will prompt some teams to look at him as a nickel back, the overall athleticism and skills showcased this weekend would make him a viable starter in most schemes.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/0ap2000000329227/article/justin-gilbert-jason-verrett-stand-out-on-combines-final-day
Originally posted by maxsmart:
It's not just his height: Also has strength, durability, injury, and mental mistake question marks
Weaknesses: Lack of elite height and length shows against most receivers. Lanky build and doesn't have the frame to pack on too much more muscle. Lacks ideal hand strength to consistently finish or easily shed blocks. Room to improve his tackling technique, especially in space, hitting too high and losing immediate leverage. Will pop up out of his backpedal too soon and needs to play with more consistent pad level in his transition technique. Needs to eliminate the mental mistakes with too many offsides and holding penalties on his resume. needs to do a better job finding the ball with his back to the line of scrimmage. Some durability concerns after several nagging injuries plagued him in 2013, most notably a shoulder injury.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1824936/jason-verrett


There's negatives about every single player, but as far as Verrett goes, the biggest issue people bring up his height, nobody is questioning his coverage skills, footwork, ability to attack the ball in the air, essentially every key role that a cornerback has to play, he's able to fulfill and typically excels at it.


As far as durability concerns, Verrett had a shoulder injury that he played through. A guy like Fuller missed 8 games with a hernia. Neither is any evidence of a long-term pattern of injuries but it only seems to be brought up as a negative typically when discussing Verrett. Its football, players get injured, there's no major injuries, no ACL tears, nothing severe that suggests he is "injury prone."



As far as his frame goes, I'm guessing that draft report hasn't been updated since everyone thought that Verrett was 176. At 189 he weighs one less pound than Fuller, 2 pounds less than Roberson, 1 pound less than Purifoy, all guys who are taller.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Mar 29, 2014 at 4:25 PM ]
Originally posted by DeUh:
Bucky Brooks on Jason Verrett:
Jason Verrett, CB, TCU: Verrett had already been on the fringes of Day 1 consideration thanks to his flawless game tape; this strong combine performance will undoubtedly thrust him into first-round chatter. He blazed the 40 in 4.38 seconds and posted one of the top vertical jumps (39.0) of the entire event. He followed up the strong showing in athletic drills with a terrific performance in the position-specific portion of the workout. Verrett dazzled scouts with his swivel hips and explosive breaks while also displaying strong hands and ball skills. Although Verrett's slender frame (he checked in at 5-foot-9, 189 pounds) will prompt some teams to look at him as a nickel back, the overall athleticism and skills showcased this weekend would make him a viable starter in most schemes.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/0ap2000000329227/article/justin-gilbert-jason-verrett-stand-out-on-combines-final-day

That's what I want to hear. How the guy looks on film. To describe his tape as "flawless" is high praise, and from a former DB too.

Verrett is an explosive, instinctual player. He'd be a steal at #30 if he's on the board. Only reason he would be there is because he's 5'9". The skill set says he's a top 15 talent.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
That's what I want to hear. How the guy looks on film. To describe his tape as "flawless" is high praise, and from a former DB too.

Verrett is an explosive, instinctual player. He'd be a steal at #30 if he's on the board. Only reason he would be there is because he's 5'9". The skill set says he's a top 15 talent.

Like I've been saying, it is the Russell Wilson effect all over again.


Before the draft, errybody was like "Man, if this guy was a couple inches taller, he'd easily be a Top 10 pick" and I hear the same sorts of comments about Verrett. If a guy is that talented, I think the height becomes less of an issue, particularly if you've got ups the way Verrett does. With a 39" vertical, he can get up higher than a much taller guy like Jordan Matthews, giving him a better ability to play the ball in the air. People get overly focused on a DB's height vs a WR but the focus should be on a DB's ability to play the ball. If you can jump almost 40", it's still going to be tough for teams to throw over the top on you normally. Verrett has a better vertical than guys like Richard Sherman, Patrick Peterson and basically any other cornerback on the 49ers(Perrish Cox-32.5", Chris Culliver-38", Eric Wright-36", Tramaine Brock-36")


I see a lot of teams passing up on this guy for one reason or another and then really regretting it a couple years down the road. His gametape doesn't lie, he has outstanding awareness and fluidity on the field, I don't doubt he can hold his own against the Percy Harvin's and Wes Welker's of the NFL, which are just two of the shifty, faster receivers that the 49ers will be running into this upcoming season.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Mar 29, 2014 at 5:18 PM ]
I think I'm sold. Who else covers Percy harvin and tavon Austin. Verret and Wright would be good competition and depth.
if he can play well at 5'9" the guy is a football player. sometimes the smaller dudes are actually better because they dont rely on physical size or strength to get the job done, their technique has to be legit. im not against it but i dont want our whole secondary to be small either for when we play the megatrons, andre johnsons and julio jones' of the world
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
if he can play well at 5'9" the guy is a football player. sometimes the smaller dudes are actually better because they dont rely on physical size or strength to get the job done, their technique has to be legit. im not against it but i dont want our whole secondary to be small either for when we play the megatrons, andre johnsons and julio jones' of the world

Ideally you want some balance in the secondary. You take a guy like Verrett and then you draft someone like Desir, Aikens, Cockrell...etc to develop.


If Baalke could somehow pull off both Fuller and Verrett, that'd be the ultimate homerun.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Mar 29, 2014 at 5:34 PM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
if he can play well at 5'9" the guy is a football player. sometimes the smaller dudes are actually better because they dont rely on physical size or strength to get the job done, their technique has to be legit. im not against it but i dont want our whole secondary to be small either for when we play the megatrons, andre johnsons and julio jones' of the world

Ideally you want some balance in the secondary. You take a guy like Verrett and then you draft someone like Desir, Aikens, Cockrell...etc to develop.


If Baalke could somehow pull off both Fuller and Verrett, that'd be the ultimate homerun.

i wish i could be as excited but i dont know anyone in this draft hahaha. i do think having a little guy back there could be a liability at times but if the guy can play he can handle himself. its not like they dont have to play against tall receivers in college.
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
i wish i could be as excited but i dont know anyone in this draft hahaha. i do think having a little guy back there could be a liability at times but if the guy can play he can handle himself. its not like they dont have to play against tall receivers in college.

I saw Verrett lock down guys like Beckham Jr, he's clearly got ability, just stick on the other teams smaller receivers, slot guys...etc, he'll do well. People bring up Calvin Johnson and its like, man, big or small, all cornerbacks have issues defending Megatron.
Originally posted by maxsmart:

Daryl Green ran a 4.15 40 http://www.gridironstuds.com/blog/the-fastest-40-yard-dash-ever/

No he didn't. That is a fantasy. I'm pretty sure Usain Bolt couldn't run a 4.15 in the 40.

The only barometer we have for NFL players' speed is electronically timed 40's at the combine. Any time before that standard can't be compared to current times.
[ Edited by VPofCarnage on Mar 29, 2014 at 5:41 PM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I saw Verrett lock down guys like Beckham Jr, he's clearly got ability, just stick on the other teams smaller receivers, slot guys...etc, he'll do well. People bring up Calvin Johnson and its like, man, big or small, all cornerbacks have issues defending Megatron.

You mean football speed is as important as 40 times? No way!
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