i hope we traded up to 20
or traded down
btw if alshon shows up at 220 like reports say where do you see him going? certainly not at 57 right?
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Feb 20, 2012 at 8:19 AM
- 49ersalldaway126
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Feb 20, 2012 at 8:27 AM
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Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
i hope we traded up to 20
or traded down
btw if alshon shows up at 220 like reports say where do you see him going? certainly not at 57 right?
I think the team is in a spectacular trade down position if Tannehill is still on the board at 30. Some team every year makes that leap forward into the bottom of the first round to outmanuever other teams for a second tier QB.
As for Jeffery, I have a hard time believing he will arrive at 249 pounds, and run a mid 4.8 as some have stated he is at right now. I expect him to be 235 pounds and run in the high 4.6's. Could it be that Camp Jeffery is sending out this bogus info so that when he looks a bit sloppy and performs poorly, people will say, "Hey, he was ONLY 235 pounds, and did better than expected in the forty."
To me, I think Jeffery is a guy with a ton of question marks, I just don't see him as a first rounder. I haven't since middle of this last season. Great height, but no ability to separate, slow off the line, and just Jeffery and that is why they will be going different directions when the draft happens.
BTW, I think Sanu is a big time target for the Niners at 30. He is everything they want from a WR: great hands, committed, versatile, and most underrated... but key...a great downfield blocker. I can't see him slipping past 30, unless he runs a 4.6 or higher. He is Dwayne Bowe 2.0, minus the attitude.
[ Edited by MadDog49er on Feb 20, 2012 at 8:33 AM ]
Feb 20, 2012 at 8:31 AM
- D-Money
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Maddog, you've been one of if not the top draft poster on here, and like everyear your big board will be used the most by all the users. To me it is very similar to every big board I've seen out there. Not alot of bold predictions, very ho hum from what you've been recognized for in the past. Not trying to make the response personal, and if that's the way you've got the guys stacked than it is what it is. Good effort as usual.
Feb 20, 2012 at 8:39 AM
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Originally posted by D-Money:
Maddog, you've been one of if not the top draft poster on here, and like everyear your big board will be used the most by all the users. To me it is very similar to every big board I've seen out there. Not alot of bold predictions, very ho hum from what you've been recognized for in the past. Not trying to make the response personal, and if that's the way you've got the guys stacked than it is what it is. Good effort as usual.
precombine will always have the same big board universal
combine will change every1s big board
Feb 20, 2012 at 8:40 AM
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Originally posted by D-Money:
Maddog, you've been one of if not the top draft poster on here, and like everyear your big board will be used the most by all the users. To me it is very similar to every big board I've seen out there. Not alot of bold predictions, very ho hum from what you've been recognized for in the past. Not trying to make the response personal, and if that's the way you've got the guys stacked than it is what it is. Good effort as usual.
Thanks for the compliment. There are some similarities, but I think you will also see some differences. To note: I project Brockers at 7, which is about the peak. I also have Jeffery in the 50's, which I have not seen at all. I also have some of the midget burners much higher than most, including both Arkansas WR's, Adams and Wright. At the same time, I have Trumaine Johnson a late third rounder, and I even hedge on that one. I see a ton of teams taking him off their boards.
I think Brandon Brooks and Josh Norman will surprise on how early they go, and also that I do not post Chris Givens in the top 100. Meanwhile, I have TJ Graham posted as a 3rd rounder, while most publications have him listed as a 5-6th rounder.
Finally, I see Bruce Irvin as a substantial riser after the combine and workouts, and when people think WV was crazy to have him play the 3-4 DE position. So, while there are some similarities, I think there are also some differences.
[ Edited by MadDog49er on Feb 20, 2012 at 8:43 AM ]
Feb 20, 2012 at 8:42 AM
- Mr.Mcgibblets
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Looks pretty good.
Juron Criner = Arizona (not AZ State) and I suspect he will go a bit earlier.
Juron Criner = Arizona (not AZ State) and I suspect he will go a bit earlier.
Feb 20, 2012 at 8:47 AM
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Originally posted by oldman9er:First duh moment for me erased. Thanks for the note on Criner.
Looks pretty good.
Juron Criner = Arizona (not AZ State) and I suspect he will go a bit earlier.
He looked great at the Senior Bowl, there is no doubt. I just see a pretty mediocre forty time coming up, which pushes him down the board a bit. In my personal grading, i have him better than a lot of the other WR's who will be drafted before.
Feb 20, 2012 at 8:53 AM
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Good to have the big board back, Mad. It looks good but I think Randall and Sanu could be switched.
Feb 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:Thanks for the compliment. There are some similarities, but I think you will also see some differences. To note: I project Brockers at 7, which is about the peak. I also have Jeffery in the 50's, which I have not seen at all. I also have some of the midget burners much higher than most, including both Arkansas WR's, Adams and Wright. At the same time, I have Trumaine Johnson a late third rounder, and I even hedge on that one. I see a ton of teams taking him off their boards.
I think Brandon Brooks and Josh Norman will surprise on how early they go, and also that I do not post Chris Givens in the top 100. Meanwhile, I have TJ Graham posted as a 3rd rounder, while most publications have him listed as a 5-6th rounder.
Finally, I see Bruce Irvin as a substantial riser after the combine and workouts, and when people think WV was crazy to have him play the 3-4 DE position. So, while there are some similarities, I think there are also some differences.
U know what. Maybe reading through the list the first time I didn't see all the little tweaks here and there.but I tell you what, I completely agree with Adams place on this board and would love to drop Injury prone Ginn and have Adams waiting in the third. . Remember if Ginn wasn't such a little b***h, Williams would've never been back there. I have to disagree with B. Irvin, the guy lacks pass rush moves and should be drafted no higher than the fourth round. Thanks again Maddog.
Feb 20, 2012 at 9:04 AM
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:This is NOT a ranking of players. I would not have Michael Floyd ranked #20 on my best players available board. And, I would certainly have Bobby Wagner graded much, much higher than 53. Nor is this a mock draft, since trades destroy mocks, and make the effort futile. This is a judgment on where I believe the players will be selected, regardless of the team involved in the pick. For the vets, sorry to be redundant with this message, but there are people who get lathered up without understanding the nature of this post.
translation= when I'm wrong you can't use this against me because I really though the player was better/worse but I thought he'd be picked higher/lower. In reality I had him ranke higher/lower even though I never posted it...
Feb 20, 2012 at 9:57 AM
- cciowa
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wow, its kind of refreshing to see a post by the dog and not getting blasted for it!!
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, good job dog, this helps people who know nothing about college football players, like me.
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, good job dog, this helps people who know nothing about college football players, like me.
Feb 20, 2012 at 10:06 AM
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Our boards are very very different right now.
I am waiting until after the combine to shuffle and post mine, but soon enough it'll be ready. Only have gotten through about 85 picks so far. Chipping away each opportunity I get.
Very interesting to see where you've got some of these guys. We'll see how close you turn out to be once the combine takes place this week. Good luck, my friend!
(One small spelling note - Weeden instead of Weedon)
I am waiting until after the combine to shuffle and post mine, but soon enough it'll be ready. Only have gotten through about 85 picks so far. Chipping away each opportunity I get.Very interesting to see where you've got some of these guys. We'll see how close you turn out to be once the combine takes place this week. Good luck, my friend!
(One small spelling note - Weeden instead of Weedon)
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Feb 20, 2012 at 10:07 AM ]
Feb 20, 2012 at 10:08 AM
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Do you think Coples sees a big drop from that top 5 area, and out of the top 10? His senior season has been pretty bad, and despite a good Senior Bowl performance, it's hard to imagine that it mitigates his entire last season of poor play. I know he's good the size/measurables that teams want, but does his tape justify a a pick in the top 10?
Feb 20, 2012 at 10:48 AM
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Mad Dog:
Always good to see your top 100. Could you post your top 100 players that you consider the best 100? Also you convey that this is how teams will pick but it seemed that you did not think Fleener was the best TE in the draft this list would indicate that teams think that he is the top TE in the draft, is that correct? Thanks again.
Always good to see your top 100. Could you post your top 100 players that you consider the best 100? Also you convey that this is how teams will pick but it seemed that you did not think Fleener was the best TE in the draft this list would indicate that teams think that he is the top TE in the draft, is that correct? Thanks again.