Patrick Peterson to the 49ers just got a lot more realistic...

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by jones49:
Arizona is my only worry but I think they would take Miller.

I thought they might take Miller too, but that would give them 2 very undersized OLBs (O'Brien Schofield and Miller). They would give them a nice pass rush, but they would get pounded in the run game all day long. I just can't see them doing that. However, they could easily take Peterson in the 1st and pair him with DRC, then draft a pass rusher in the 2nd with some heft (Jabaal Sheard or Brooks Reed).

They could also take Robert Quinn, who would be a better fit opposite Schofield. Problem with that is, if Quinn blows up the combine, he may not get past Denver or Buffalo or possibly even Cincy.

Another thing to factor into thinking with them is that another undersized 3-4 OLB might limit their versatility on defense. Could Miller or Schofield play end on passing downs in a 4-3 nickel ? They could play a 3-3-5 nickel but it limits the ability to have a little more versatile defense (unless they believe they have 2/3 rushers who could play situational 4-3 end) and the ability to use a multitude of looks to confuse opposing offenses.

Food for thought.

Originally posted by SWAGG-ER:

Originally posted by okdkid:
This has ZERO impact on their draft.

You don't pass up a top ranked prospect because you have a good CB on the wrong side of 30.

We'll see soon enough. The only way to know for sure is to know what Denver and their HC 4 year plan actually is and what he is thinking on how to make the team competitive. Does he believe in now or is it toward the future? Not your plan but his.

If Peterson somehow drops past Buffalo, wow--then it starts getting interesting. We better hope that Baalke has his mind made up on Peterson if that's his guy. I do believe we will work the phone with Cincy just as much as the other teams (Dallas) who have him rated as BPA. The problem is that lower picking teams will be spending more for the Bengals spot.

I hope the Bengals want a top-tier player and pick at 4, or just trade down with us, only a few spots so they can land a great prospect. I do not want to give up a third round pick however, to jump up.

Im saying no matter what we better be ready for someone to jump us if he falls past 3.

We need Amukamara to have a great combine so Cb needy teams can wait and jump on him in the mid first. I hate Dallas.

He's ours

Originally posted by SFL49ER:
If Peterson somehow drops past Buffalo, wow--then it starts getting interesting. We better hope that Baalke has his mind made up on Peterson if that's his guy. I do believe we will work the phone with Cincy just as much as the other teams (Dallas) who have him rated as BPA. The problem is that lower picking teams will be spending more for the Bengals spot.

I hope the Bengals want a top-tier player and pick at 4, or just trade down with us, only a few spots so they can land a great prospect. I do not want to give up a third round pick however, to jump up.
Im saying no matter what we better be ready for someone to jump us if he falls past 3.

We need Amukamara to have a great combine so Cb needy teams can wait and jump on him in the mid first. I hate Dallas.

dont worry, it'd be a 2nd to move up

Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by SFL49ER:
If Peterson somehow drops past Buffalo, wow--then it starts getting interesting. We better hope that Baalke has his mind made up on Peterson if that's his guy. I do believe we will work the phone with Cincy just as much as the other teams (Dallas) who have him rated as BPA. The problem is that lower picking teams will be spending more for the Bengals spot.

I hope the Bengals want a top-tier player and pick at 4, or just trade down with us, only a few spots so they can land a great prospect. I do not want to give up a third round pick however, to jump up.
Im saying no matter what we better be ready for someone to jump us if he falls past 3.

We need Amukamara to have a great combine so Cb needy teams can wait and jump on him in the mid first. I hate Dallas.

dont worry, it'd be a 2nd to move up

Really? Well then "Hello pick 7!" I for one wouldn't mind trading down to get an extra pick so we could possibly find a receiver in one of the top 3 rounds:

Kerrigan in mid first, aaron wiliiams in late first, early second, Hankerson in second, Dalton in third, NT and FB in fourth! Wouldn't that be great?

Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
Schefter says the Broncos will now more likely go D-line with the 2nd pick in the draft after the extension of Bailey.

Is denver sticking with a 3-4 or are they moving to a 4-3? Dumerville proved unreliable in a 4-3 for pass rush and they would then very likely go after a DE high

Originally posted by SFL49ER:

Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by SFL49ER:
If Peterson somehow drops past Buffalo, wow--then it starts getting interesting. We better hope that Baalke has his mind made up on Peterson if that's his guy. I do believe we will work the phone with Cincy just as much as the other teams (Dallas) who have him rated as BPA. The problem is that lower picking teams will be spending more for the Bengals spot.

I hope the Bengals want a top-tier player and pick at 4, or just trade down with us, only a few spots so they can land a great prospect. I do not want to give up a third round pick however, to jump up.
Im saying no matter what we better be ready for someone to jump us if he falls past 3.

We need Amukamara to have a great combine so Cb needy teams can wait and jump on him in the mid first. I hate Dallas.

dont worry, it'd be a 2nd to move up

Really? Well then "Hello pick 7!" I for one wouldn't mind trading down to get an extra pick so we could possibly find a receiver in one of the top 3 rounds:

Kerrigan in mid first, aaron wiliiams in late first, early second, Hankerson in second, Dalton in third, NT and FB in fourth! Wouldn't that be great?

i wouldnt move from our spots

the elite prospects in this draft (no order)

fairly
bowers (probally not much of use in 3-4)
peterson
green
prince
quinn
miller

thats 7 people after that theyre is a huge drop off i talent we are picking at the perfect place hopefully cam goes in top 6 allowing us to choose between people but i dont want to trade down not even 1 spot after those 7 people the drop off in talent is significant

Originally posted by 49ersNoKaOi:
Hope he has a not so stellar combine.

Then we really would get him at 7.

Originally posted by ninerfan21:

Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
Schefter says the Broncos will now more likely go D-line with the 2nd pick in the draft after the extension of Bailey.

Is denver sticking with a 3-4 or are they moving to a 4-3? Dumerville proved unreliable in a 4-3 for pass rush and they would then very likely go after a DE high

pretty sure a 4-3

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by okdkid:
This has ZERO impact on their draft.

You don't pass up a top ranked prospect because you have a good CB on the wrong side of 30.

Champ is a little better then good

They just made Champ the second highest paid CB in the league behind Revis. They won't commit another $20 million plus guaranteed to Peterson given they have so many other holes to fill. Signing Champ was basically a tip that they are: (1) drafting another position of need in the draft; or (2) looking to trade out and acquire more picks. I could see Dallas moving up to grab Peterson.

Originally posted by midrdan:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by okdkid:
This has ZERO impact on their draft.

You don't pass up a top ranked prospect because you have a good CB on the wrong side of 30.

Champ is a little better then good

They just made Champ the second highest paid CB in the league behind Revis. They won't commit another $20 million plus guaranteed to Peterson given they have so many other holes to fill. Signing Champ was basically a tip that they are: (1) drafting another position of need in the draft; or (2) looking to trade out and acquire more picks. I could see Dallas moving up to grab Peterson.

Agree 100%.

Originally posted by midrdan:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by okdkid:
This has ZERO impact on their draft.

You don't pass up a top ranked prospect because you have a good CB on the wrong side of 30.

Champ is a little better then good

They just made Champ the second highest paid CB in the league behind Revis. They won't commit another $20 million plus guaranteed to Peterson given they have so many other holes to fill. Signing Champ was basically a tip that they are: (1) drafting another position of need in the draft; or (2) looking to trade out and acquire more picks. I could see Dallas moving up to grab Peterson.

Originally posted by SFL49ER:
If Peterson somehow drops past Buffalo, wow--then it starts getting interesting. We better hope that Baalke has his mind made up on Peterson if that's his guy. I do believe we will work the phone with Cincy just as much as the other teams (Dallas) who have him rated as BPA. The problem is that lower picking teams will be spending more for the Bengals spot.

I hope the Bengals want a top-tier player and pick at 4, or just trade down with us, only a few spots so they can land a great prospect. I do not want to give up a third round pick however, to jump up.

Im saying no matter what we better be ready for someone to jump us if he falls past 3.

We need Amukamara to have a great combine so Cb needy teams can wait and jump on him in the mid first. I hate Dallas.

Dallas is the one team that scares me trading up ahead of us to nab Peterson.