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I won't be mad if we get him I won't be sad if we don't. Top 7 players are all talented and whoever we get will be a big part of the team. Anyway it goes lb, cb, qb, I think I'll be happy.

Originally posted by TexasNiner:
How is this anything but good?

Regardless of what you think of Cam.

He is obviously working hard, and willing to show it, to be successful in the NFL.

So, it means likely one of two things:

1. Someone else drafts him, and early, so one more great player is there for us to select from when we pick.

2. We draft him, because "QB Guru", Harbaugh thinks he's the real deal. And can win for this team.

IF you trust Harbaugh, at all, this is a win-win. Either he gets the QB he wants, and we trust him enough to go with his decision. OR, some other team buys the hype and we get at least one more top 5 type player who falls to us because Cam got selected early.

I don't see how anyone thinks this is a bad thing.

THIS x 10000000

Originally posted by wailers15:

Originally posted by niner4life21:

Originally posted by teeohh:

Lol that actually looks pretty sick.

Looks pretyy gay!

looks like another below 500 season to me

Originally posted by dlance:
The only thing Cam has been accused of is having a stolen computer. his father is accused of asking for money form Miss state. As far as I know nothing was ever proven. I have said all this before. Something happened and it had to do with cams recruiting if you want to think cam had blinder on and saw nothing knew nothing thats ok.

Originally posted by dlance:
I'm not sure what did or did not happen and i didn't think anything was proven. it was all here say. but something happen and it had everything to do with cam and his family but i guess cam has blinders on and doesnt know anything about what was going on around him.

Originally posted by dlance:
first off i'm not against Cam newton.but about last year's controversy. i don't know everything about it but i think cams father may or maynot have taken money for cam to play? so cams father took money and told cam what to do. then cam went along with what his father said. cam should take some of the blame he should have known something was up. it's simalar reggie bush family taking money. your right it was mostly on cams father but to say cam was tottaly in the dark i'm not going to buy that.

How exactly can you sit there and accuse Cam of having to know something about the pay for play scandal, or at least give off the impression that Cam had to know something when you yourself admitted to not knowing everything about the investigation and the controversy surrounding it. When you don't know everything about a situation it is kind of hard to be able to form a fair and honest opinion on said situation is it not ?

And for someone who doesn't know EVERYTHING about this, it wasn't just the NCAA who was involved in the investigation but the FBI was also involved in the investigation. It's not the end all be all of the matter but Cam was found innocent, and ultimately there is/was no proof that he did know about any of the scandal his father was involved with.

Originally posted by NC49erfan82:

Originally posted by wailers15:

Originally posted by niner4life21:

Originally posted by teeohh:

Lol that actually looks pretty sick.

Looks pretyy gay!

looks like another below 500 season to me

Pfft, biased opinion, Mr.Bama fan.

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by dlance:
The only thing Cam has been accused of is having a stolen computer. his father is accused of asking for money form Miss state. As far as I know nothing was ever proven. I have said all this before. Something happened and it had to do with cams recruiting if you want to think cam had blinder on and saw nothing knew nothing thats ok.

Originally posted by dlance:
I'm not sure what did or did not happen and i didn't think anything was proven. it was all here say. but something happen and it had everything to do with cam and his family but i guess cam has blinders on and doesnt know anything about what was going on around him.

Originally posted by dlance:
first off i'm not against Cam newton.but about last year's controversy. i don't know everything about it but i think cams father may or maynot have taken money for cam to play? so cams father took money and told cam what to do. then cam went along with what his father said. cam should take some of the blame he should have known something was up. it's simalar reggie bush family taking money. your right it was mostly on cams father but to say cam was tottaly in the dark i'm not going to buy that.

How exactly can you sit there and accuse Cam of having to know something about the pay for play scandal, or at least give off the impression that Cam had to know something when you yourself admitted to not knowing everything about the investigation and the controversy surrounding it. When you don't know everything about a situation it is kind of hard to be able to form a fair and honest opinion on said situation is it not ?

And for someone who doesn't know EVERYTHING about this, it wasn't just the NCAA who was involved in the investigation but the FBI was also involved in the investigation. It's not the end all be all of the matter but Cam was found innocent, and ultimately there is/was no proof that he did know about any of the scandal his father was involved with.

Nothing was prover and i have never readed anything that said the Investigation was over or closed. the investigation found that cams father broke rule but cam had nothing to do with it. i don't think he did anything wrong. there was an fbi and state investigation. But your 20 your dad is helping you get a job and you have no idea who he is talking to or what he is talking about?

[ Edited by dlance on Feb 13, 2011 at 09:00:24 ]

maybe i have been saying this wrong Cam father was doing what ever he was doing. I don't think cam was involved or had any part in braking rules. The investgation cleared cam of any wrong doing. but the investigation never said he know nothing of what happen. he may have leared after the fact.

Originally posted by dlance:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by dlance:
The only thing Cam has been accused of is having a stolen computer. his father is accused of asking for money form Miss state. As far as I know nothing was ever proven. I have said all this before. Something happened and it had to do with cams recruiting if you want to think cam had blinder on and saw nothing knew nothing thats ok.

Originally posted by dlance:
I'm not sure what did or did not happen and i didn't think anything was proven. it was all here say. but something happen and it had everything to do with cam and his family but i guess cam has blinders on and doesnt know anything about what was going on around him.

Originally posted by dlance:
first off i'm not against Cam newton.but about last year's controversy. i don't know everything about it but i think cams father may or maynot have taken money for cam to play? so cams father took money and told cam what to do. then cam went along with what his father said. cam should take some of the blame he should have known something was up. it's simalar reggie bush family taking money. your right it was mostly on cams father but to say cam was tottaly in the dark i'm not going to buy that.

How exactly can you sit there and accuse Cam of having to know something about the pay for play scandal, or at least give off the impression that Cam had to know something when you yourself admitted to not knowing everything about the investigation and the controversy surrounding it. When you don't know everything about a situation it is kind of hard to be able to form a fair and honest opinion on said situation is it not ?

And for someone who doesn't know EVERYTHING about this, it wasn't just the NCAA who was involved in the investigation but the FBI was also involved in the investigation. It's not the end all be all of the matter but Cam was found innocent, and ultimately there is/was no proof that he did know about any of the scandal his father was involved with.

Nothing was prover and i have never readed anything that said the Investigation was over or closed. the investigation found that cams father broke rule but cam had nothing to do with it. i don't think he did anything wrong. there was an fbi and state investigation. But your 20 your dad is helping you get a job and you have no idea who he is talking to or what he is talking about?

Yes it is actually possible that he knew nothing about what his Dad was doing and the investigation found him innocent so why continue insinuate that he may have known something ?

Way too much hype...it doesn't prove anything. Not saying Newton isn't an intruguing prospect, but to suggest as Dilfer did he's a top 3 pick, I'm not so sure about that. Great success in college doesn't guarantee anything in the NFL. His size and speed allowed him to be as effective a runner as he was a passer...that's not likely to happen in the NFL. Guess the big question about him is can he be disciplined enough to be an effective NFL QB. All the workouts in the world won't prove any of that...I want to see him against real NFL players.

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by dlance:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by dlance:
The only thing Cam has been accused of is having a stolen computer. his father is accused of asking for money form Miss state. As far as I know nothing was ever proven. I have said all this before. Something happened and it had to do with cams recruiting if you want to think cam had blinder on and saw nothing knew nothing thats ok.

Originally posted by dlance:
I'm not sure what did or did not happen and i didn't think anything was proven. it was all here say. but something happen and it had everything to do with cam and his family but i guess cam has blinders on and doesnt know anything about what was going on around him.

Originally posted by dlance:
first off i'm not against Cam newton.but about last year's controversy. i don't know everything about it but i think cams father may or maynot have taken money for cam to play? so cams father took money and told cam what to do. then cam went along with what his father said. cam should take some of the blame he should have known something was up. it's simalar reggie bush family taking money. your right it was mostly on cams father but to say cam was tottaly in the dark i'm not going to buy that.

How exactly can you sit there and accuse Cam of having to know something about the pay for play scandal, or at least give off the impression that Cam had to know something when you yourself admitted to not knowing everything about the investigation and the controversy surrounding it. When you don't know everything about a situation it is kind of hard to be able to form a fair and honest opinion on said situation is it not ?

And for someone who doesn't know EVERYTHING about this, it wasn't just the NCAA who was involved in the investigation but the FBI was also involved in the investigation. It's not the end all be all of the matter but Cam was found innocent, and ultimately there is/was no proof that he did know about any of the scandal his father was involved with.

Nothing was prover and i have never readed anything that said the Investigation was over or closed. the investigation found that cams father broke rule but cam had nothing to do with it. i don't think he did anything wrong. there was an fbi and state investigation. But your 20 your dad is helping you get a job and you have no idea who he is talking to or what he is talking about?

Yes it is actually possible that he knew nothing about what his Dad was doing and the investigation found him innocent so why continue insinuate that he may have known something ?

your right it is Possible cam didn't know that this dad was talking to miss state or auburn or any other school. cam father never talked to anyone at any school. it was all cam decision and he never talked to his dad about it and his dad never talked to anyone at any school. I will never bring it up again.

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by dlance:
The only thing Cam has been accused of is having a stolen computer. his father is accused of asking for money form Miss state. As far as I know nothing was ever proven. I have said all this before. Something happened and it had to do with cams recruiting if you want to think cam had blinder on and saw nothing knew nothing thats ok.

Originally posted by dlance:
I'm not sure what did or did not happen and i didn't think anything was proven. it was all here say. but something happen and it had everything to do with cam and his family but i guess cam has blinders on and doesnt know anything about what was going on around him.

Originally posted by dlance:
first off i'm not against Cam newton.but about last year's controversy. i don't know everything about it but i think cams father may or maynot have taken money for cam to play? so cams father took money and told cam what to do. then cam went along with what his father said. cam should take some of the blame he should have known something was up. it's simalar reggie bush family taking money. your right it was mostly on cams father but to say cam was tottaly in the dark i'm not going to buy that.

How exactly can you sit there and accuse Cam of having to know something about the pay for play scandal, or at least give off the impression that Cam had to know something when you yourself admitted to not knowing everything about the investigation and the controversy surrounding it. When you don't know everything about a situation it is kind of hard to be able to form a fair and honest opinion on said situation is it not ?

And for someone who doesn't know EVERYTHING about this, it wasn't just the NCAA who was involved in the investigation but the FBI was also involved in the investigation. It's not the end all be all of the matter but Cam was found innocent, and ultimately there is/was no proof that he did know about any of the scandal his father was involved with.

bro that title is going to be stripped from auburn in a couple years. you are incredibly naive if you actually believe that the ncaa or whoever else was going to turn up with anything for the star QB of the #1 team in the nation during the season.

USC was also investigated during their run. nothing turned up until magically a couple years later some other stuff came to light. if you believe that cam newton knew NOTHING about what his father was doing then I have swampland in Florida to sell you.

and this is to speak nothing of newton cheating multiple times on tests at florida and was going to possibly be expelled. he got out before they could do that because it would have hurt his eligibility elsewhere. he also had problems stealing someones laptop.

i know none of this matters in the nfl as far as his on field performance goes. but you know who else looked awesome on the field in college and at his pro day/combine? jamarcus russell. everyone says "he was lazy in college! he was out of shape!" are you f**king stupid? you think this wouldn't have come out at the time? mayock was really the only one who said drafting jamarcus was a mistake. everyone else was on his dick.

i'm not saying newton is guaranteed to be like jamarcus but the warning signs are there. now i will support any player who is officially a 49er, but up to that point i will not support drafting newton

[ Edited by frenchmov on Feb 13, 2011 at 10:38:46 ]

Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Way too much hype...it doesn't prove anything. Not saying Newton isn't an intruguing prospect, but to suggest as Dilfer did he's a top 3 pick, I'm not so sure about that. Great success in college doesn't guarantee anything in the NFL. His size and speed allowed him to be as effective a runner as he was a passer...that's not likely to happen in the NFL. Guess the big question about him is can he be disciplined enough to be an effective NFL QB. All the workouts in the world won't prove any of that...I want to see him against real NFL players.

Pretty much. You look at his rushing totals against the 2 best defenses he faced and it's 22 carries for 67 yards and 22 carries for 39 yards. In the NFL Mike Vick is the only quarterback that can consisantly beat you with his legs. 4.5 speed is pretty much what everybody runs.

That's not saying his size and speed won't make a difference, but for the most part it's going to be his size and speed extended the play so he could make a play with his arm. Ala Freeman, ala Big Ben and if he can't make plays with his arm he's going to be Vince Young part 2.

Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Way too much hype...it doesn't prove anything. Not saying Newton isn't an intruguing prospect, but to suggest as Dilfer did he's a top 3 pick, I'm not so sure about that. Great success in college doesn't guarantee anything in the NFL. His size and speed allowed him to be as effective a runner as he was a passer...that's not likely to happen in the NFL. Guess the big question about him is can he be disciplined enough to be an effective NFL QB. All the workouts in the world won't prove any of that...I want to see him against real NFL players.

Is there ANYTHING that gaurantees success in the NFL MORE then being in the top 5% of the best SEC players of all time?

or Of being a great college player?

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Way too much hype...it doesn't prove anything. Not saying Newton isn't an intruguing prospect, but to suggest as Dilfer did he's a top 3 pick, I'm not so sure about that. Great success in college doesn't guarantee anything in the NFL. His size and speed allowed him to be as effective a runner as he was a passer...that's not likely to happen in the NFL. Guess the big question about him is can he be disciplined enough to be an effective NFL QB. All the workouts in the world won't prove any of that...I want to see him against real NFL players.

Pretty much. You look at his rushing totals against the 2 best defenses he faced and it's 22 carries for 67 yards and 22 carries for 39 yards. In the NFL Mike Vick is the only quarterback that can consisantly beat you with his legs. 4.5 speed is pretty much what everybody runs.

That's not saying his size and speed won't make a difference, but for the most part it's going to be his size and speed extended the play so he could make a play with his arm. Ala Freeman, ala Big Ben and if he can't make plays with his arm he's going to be Vince Young part 2.

Thats really is not 100% the case...... you have a point.....

Teams changed the way they defended Auburn to keep Cam in the pocket.

Unlike Vick and Matt Jones.... Cam could burn teams with his arm...and he did...


No NFL team is going to try and defended Cam the way they did in college. NFL WRs will score Touch Downs if you dedicate that much of the Defense to SPY the QB.

To beat Auburn you only need to stop 1 man.


If Tim Tebow and Steve Young can get free in the NFL , So can Cam newton.


I dont think Cam is going to be Mike vick or Randel Cunningham.

I think he is going to be a 400 yard Guy like Steve Young.

Steve Young was FASTER then the defensive ends and linebackers going after him....

Cam newton is as well...but he is ALSO quicker then steve young.


I am an Auburn Die hard..... I think newton is worth a 1st round pick , I also dont think he should be starting next year or maybe the year after.


If ever you wanted to see a "year 2" from a college QB is Cam.

He was becoming a better and better passer week after week. To the point were he was starting to not just Find the wide open guy...but was actually starting to challenge defenses by putting the ball in smaller openings.

I love the guy...I would love to get him on the 49ers....but i can understand why people are hesitant because of his 1 year or RAW performance, even epic as it was....there was alot of room for improvement.

But in the end....draft choice are MADE to gamble with. There is no such thing as a sure thing.

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by dlance:
The only thing Cam has been accused of is having a stolen computer. his father is accused of asking for money form Miss state. As far as I know nothing was ever proven. I have said all this before. Something happened and it had to do with cams recruiting if you want to think cam had blinder on and saw nothing knew nothing thats ok.

Originally posted by dlance:
I'm not sure what did or did not happen and i didn't think anything was proven. it was all here say. but something happen and it had everything to do with cam and his family but i guess cam has blinders on and doesnt know anything about what was going on around him.

Originally posted by dlance:
first off i'm not against Cam newton.but about last year's controversy. i don't know everything about it but i think cams father may or maynot have taken money for cam to play? so cams father took money and told cam what to do. then cam went along with what his father said. cam should take some of the blame he should have known something was up. it's simalar reggie bush family taking money. your right it was mostly on cams father but to say cam was tottaly in the dark i'm not going to buy that.

How exactly can you sit there and accuse Cam of having to know something about the pay for play scandal, or at least give off the impression that Cam had to know something when you yourself admitted to not knowing everything about the investigation and the controversy surrounding it. When you don't know everything about a situation it is kind of hard to be able to form a fair and honest opinion on said situation is it not ?

And for someone who doesn't know EVERYTHING about this, it wasn't just the NCAA who was involved in the investigation but the FBI was also involved in the investigation. It's not the end all be all of the matter but Cam was found innocent, and ultimately there is/was no proof that he did know about any of the scandal his father was involved with.

bro that title is going to be stripped from auburn in a couple years. you are incredibly naive if you actually believe that the ncaa or whoever else was going to turn up with anything for the star QB of the #1 team in the nation during the season.

USC was also investigated during their run. nothing turned up until magically a couple years later some other stuff came to light. if you believe that cam newton knew NOTHING about what his father was doing then I have swampland in Florida to sell you.

and this is to speak nothing of newton cheating multiple times on tests at florida and was going to possibly be expelled. he got out before they could do that because it would have hurt his eligibility elsewhere. he also had problems stealing someones laptop.

i know none of this matters in the nfl as far as his on field performance goes. but you know who else looked awesome on the field in college and at his pro day/combine? jamarcus russell. everyone says "he was lazy in college! he was out of shape!" are you f**king stupid? you think this wouldn't have come out at the time? mayock was really the only one who said drafting jamarcus was a mistake. everyone else was on his dick.

i'm not saying newton is guaranteed to be like jamarcus but the warning signs are there. now i will support any player who is officially a 49er, but up to that point i will not support drafting newton

The cheating (3 times allegedly) and stealing was 2 and a half years ago. I'm sure you never did or know anyone who ever did anything stupid when they were that age. As of right now Cam is innocent, has been proven innocent and will continue to be innocent unless something new is brought to light. Until then we can't continue to harp on what his Dad did and hold it against him. The combine, pro day and personal workouts won't show fans whether or not he he grown up and matured over the last 2 and a half year or not, but they will continue to confirm his elite skillset on the field.

And no not EVERYONE bought a ton of stock in the JR hype train, everybody knew he had the physical tools to be successful, but it was about finding out if he had the head and heart to be successful :

Merrill Hodge :

Quote:
"If you had to choose a quarterback, who would you pick, JaMarcus Russell or Brady Quinn? Both have strengths and glaring weaknesses. It goes down to which guy is most coachable. I might take Quinn for that reason. But, pure skill with a ton of work to do, it would be Russell. If you put a gun to my head, I would pick Russell. But he comes with a lot of risk."

Pete Prisco :

Quote:
"He has a cannon for an arm, can make all the throws and has great size. Heck, he looks like a tackle playing quarterback. I just don't see the pinpoint passing, the great timing of the throws or his feel for the pocket. He's careless with the ball, at times, and he struggled against the better college defenses. Can he develop into a quality NFL quarterback? You bet. Would I take him with the first overall pick? No way. As of now, I have him rated at the 20th-best player."

Mike Mayock :

Quote:
"This year, I can't get over how good and talented JaMarcus Russell is. It just blew me away. If I had the first, second, third, fourth, fifth pick in that draft, I would be tearing apart his personal life trying to figure out whether or not I could trust this kid with $10-million ... From a physical skill set perspective, I've never seen a college quarterback with more ability than Russell. You put the tape on and it's frightening. The only thing that's going to keep [Russell] from being great is him. What it comes down to is you've got to figure out whether or not this kid wants to be the best quarterback in football. If he wants to be the best quarterback in football, he can be."

This is about Cam not Jamarcus. They are 2 different prospects, the similarities between the 2 start at arm strength and end at them having the same color of skin. Everything in between is pretty much different.

At the end of the day he has all the tools to be worthy to go as high as #1, but like I mentioned earlier in this thread it will come down to what NFL teams will learn from Cam in the classroom and through interviews with him and those that know him (background checks).