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Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Cam Newton is a raw project. But I support a raw project, especially at the QB position with Harbaugh here.

But I don't like using a 7th pick for Cam , unless a very good veteran prospect is brought in. But then you have to think about getting a very good defensive player at that spot in this very deep defense draft.

Not only is Cam a off the field question mark, intelligence question mark, development worthy question mark, but he held out for $180,000 1 year contract in college

Can you imaging what money he will ask !!! Then a hold out!!! And he will get paid out the wazoo and is still a bust potential.

Another possible Crabtree situation in the making.

C'mon man, that's not true.
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Cam Newton is a raw project. But I support a raw project, especially at the QB position with Harbaugh here.

But I don't like using a 7th pick for Cam , unless a very good veteran prospect is brought in. But then you have to think about getting a very good defensive player at that spot in this very deep defense draft.

Not only is Cam a off the field question mark, intelligence question mark, development worthy question mark, but he held out for $180,000 1 year contract in college

Can you imaging what money he will ask !!! Then a hold out!!! And he will get paid out the wazoo and is still a bust potential.

Another possible Crabtree situation in the making.



180,000 lol Started at 80 but you damn dentists always gotta charge extra
Originally posted by jimmy49erfan:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Cam Newton is a raw project. But I support a raw project, especially at the QB position with Harbaugh here.

But I don't like using a 7th pick for Cam , unless a very good veteran prospect is brought in. But then you have to think about getting a very good defensive player at that spot in this very deep defense draft.

Not only is Cam a off the field question mark, intelligence question mark, development worthy question mark, but he held out for $180,000 1 year contract in college

Can you imaging what money he will ask !!! Then a hold out!!! And he will get paid out the wazoo and is still a bust potential.

Another possible Crabtree situation in the making.



180,000 lol Started at 80 but you damn dentists always gotta charge extra

LOL

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Some pretty good deep throw in the 2nd video. Not bad, he has good touch on the deep throws.
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Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
# 3 to buffalo?

I have though Buffalo is a real possibility for a while now. I am starting to think Carolina may be as well, but as of right now there is still a chance he drops to 7.

Lol

#1 to Carolina?

Yup. It's a definite possibility still. Can't see how it isn't.

Whatever those odds are, they are huge....

They aren't great but they are not that huge either. Everything is still up in the air, combine and pro days will be very telling, possibly even some of those pre-draft workouts.
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Some pretty good deep throw in the 2nd video. Not bad, he has good touch on the deep throws.

Well yeah where have you been? He has consistently shown this at Auburn 4ML!!!!!!

Making every NFL throw is not a problem for this kid.
Damn...I think Cam is at the top of my 49ers big board right now.

I know there are many who will thrash me for this, but I love what he's doing for himself right now. It take's some serious confidence to throw this early in the draft process...I get the feeling he is just an extreme competitor and I want that kinda guy playing QB for this team...and those deep balls are a thing of beauty!
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Originally posted by ninerlifer:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Some pretty good deep throw in the 2nd video. Not bad, he has good touch on the deep throws.

Well yeah where have you been? He has consistently shown this at Auburn 4ML!!!!!!

Making every NFL throw is not a problem for this kid.

Yea...just a general reply to people who were saying that his workout was ehhh.
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Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by ninerlifer:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Some pretty good deep throw in the 2nd video. Not bad, he has good touch on the deep throws.

Well yeah where have you been? He has consistently shown this at Auburn 4ML!!!!!!

Making every NFL throw is not a problem for this kid.

Yea...just a general reply to people who were saying that his workout was ehhh.

There are a couple replies in this thread where people basically throw this workout out, because it's in shorts or because he wasn't breaking down film or the like. Funny because I'd bet those same people would praise some of the other prospects not named Cam for a workout like he had.

A lot of the hate is directed at him because he is likened to Vick,VY and Russell and people are automatically assuming once likened that there is too great a chance he will bust. The reality is he has some similar attributes, but he is Cam Newton not Michael Vick, Vince Young or Jamarcus Russell and needs to be evaluated a such.

I expect his combine and pro day workouts to likely be similar to this one in the sense that he will look pretty damn good and confirm he has all the physical traits to be great. Leaked reports will likely be most telling (in regards to his interviews with teams and how he does on the whitewash board etc) but true or not people will make a MUCH bigger deal about any of the negative ones that the positive.

It's really unfortunate that with a lack of true fact to support he is a definite character concern going to the next level (we don't know if he is still the same immature kid he was at Florida) that he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt in the meantime and everyone is looking for reasons to chop him and his stock down.

The reality is that all we do know is he is a top 10 pick on paper at the moment, maybe top 5 and even possibly has the greatest upside of any prospect in this class and those who don't want him at 7 right now have their blinders on.

Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by ninerlifer:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Some pretty good deep throw in the 2nd video. Not bad, he has good touch on the deep throws.

Well yeah where have you been? He has consistently shown this at Auburn 4ML!!!!!!

Making every NFL throw is not a problem for this kid.

Yea...just a general reply to people who were saying that his workout was ehhh.

There are a couple replies in this thread where people basically throw this workout out, because it's in shorts or because he wasn't breaking down film or the like. Funny because I'd bet those same people would praise some of the other prospects not named Cam for a workout like he had.

A lot of the hate is directed at him because he is likened to Vick,VY and Russell and people are automatically assuming once likened that there is too great a chance he will bust. The reality is he has some similar attributes, but he is Cam Newton not Michael Vick, Vince Young or Jamarcus Russell and needs to be evaluated a such.

I expect his combine and pro day workouts to likely be similar to this one in the sense that he will look pretty damn good and confirm he has all the physical traits to be great. Leaked reports will likely be most telling (in regards to his interviews with teams and how he does on the whitewash board etc) but true or not people will make a MUCH bigger deal about any of the negative ones that the positive.

It's really unfortunate that with a lack of true fact to support he is a definite character concern going to the next level (we don't know if he is still the same immature kid he was at Florida) that he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt in the meantime and everyone is looking for reasons to chop him and his stock down.

The reality is that all we do know is he is a top 10 pick on paper at the moment, maybe top 5 and even possibly has the greatest upside of any prospect in this class and those who don't want him at 7 right now have their blinders on.


Tim Tebow 2.0 with also intelligence and character issues.
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Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by ninerlifer:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Some pretty good deep throw in the 2nd video. Not bad, he has good touch on the deep throws.

Well yeah where have you been? He has consistently shown this at Auburn 4ML!!!!!!

Making every NFL throw is not a problem for this kid.

Yea...just a general reply to people who were saying that his workout was ehhh.

There are a couple replies in this thread where people basically throw this workout out, because it's in shorts or because he wasn't breaking down film or the like. Funny because I'd bet those same people would praise some of the other prospects not named Cam for a workout like he had.

A lot of the hate is directed at him because he is likened to Vick,VY and Russell and people are automatically assuming once likened that there is too great a chance he will bust. The reality is he has some similar attributes, but he is Cam Newton not Michael Vick, Vince Young or Jamarcus Russell and needs to be evaluated a such.

I expect his combine and pro day workouts to likely be similar to this one in the sense that he will look pretty damn good and confirm he has all the physical traits to be great. Leaked reports will likely be most telling (in regards to his interviews with teams and how he does on the whitewash board etc) but true or not people will make a MUCH bigger deal about any of the negative ones that the positive.

It's really unfortunate that with a lack of true fact to support he is a definite character concern going to the next level (we don't know if he is still the same immature kid he was at Florida) that he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt in the meantime and everyone is looking for reasons to chop him and his stock down.

The reality is that all we do know is he is a top 10 pick on paper at the moment, maybe top 5 and even possibly has the greatest upside of any prospect in this class and those who don't want him at 7 right now have their blinders on.


Tim Tebow 2.0 with also intelligence and character issues.

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I think people doubt him because the majority - if not all - of black QBs taken in the first round have been busts since 2000. It's surely not justification or basis to put a knock on his skills, but analysts and fans have a tendency to compare players to other players of the same race.
Originally posted by GEEK:
I think people doubt him because the majority - if not all - of black QBs taken in the first round have been busts since 2000. It's surely not justification or basis to put a knock on his skills, but analysts and fans have a tendency to compare players to other players of the same race.[/]


Tim Tebow was doubted even more and is white

[ Edited by blizzuntz on Feb 11, 2011 at 20:35:28 ]
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Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by GEEK:
I think people doubt him because the majority - if not all - of black QBs taken in the first round have been busts since 2000. It's surely not justification or basis to put a knock on his skills, but analysts and fans have a tendency to compare players to other players of the same race.[/]

Tim Tebow was doubted even more and is white

Tebow showed some flashes, but he's still a big question mark.
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Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by GEEK:
I think people doubt him because the majority - if not all - of black QBs taken in the first round have been busts since 2000. It's surely not justification or basis to put a knock on his skills, but analysts and fans have a tendency to compare players to other players of the same race.[/]


Tim Tebow was doubted even more and is white

Tim Tebow was worshiped. There is a big difference between Tebow and Cam. Cam has played 1 year and showed tremendous improvement, within a year. Tebow was the same guy last year as he was the year before.
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