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  • evil
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Originally posted by binary2nd:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NinerBoss:





LOL, I know its kinda mean but this guy isnt the sharpest tool in the shed. I cant see!!! its just your helmet. oh, im ok!

In the heat of the moment I'm sure that was pretty scary. I don't recall what he got on the wonderlic but by all reports he's a highly intelligent guy.


he scored lower than Newton, Vick range.

He scored a 20. Better than some guy named Jim Kelly and another named Dan Marino.
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by binary2nd:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NinerBoss:





LOL, I know its kinda mean but this guy isnt the sharpest tool in the shed. I cant see!!! its just your helmet. oh, im ok!

In the heat of the moment I'm sure that was pretty scary. I don't recall what he got on the wonderlic but by all reports he's a highly intelligent guy.


he scored lower than Newton, Vick range.

He scored a 20. Better than some guy named Jim Kelly and another named Dan Marino.

...that were good quite a while ago.
  • Shifty
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Originally posted by binary2nd:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by binary2nd:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NinerBoss:





LOL, I know its kinda mean but this guy isnt the sharpest tool in the shed. I cant see!!! its just your helmet. oh, im ok!

In the heat of the moment I'm sure that was pretty scary. I don't recall what he got on the wonderlic but by all reports he's a highly intelligent guy.


he scored lower than Newton, Vick range.

He scored a 20. Better than some guy named Jim Kelly and another named Dan Marino.

...that were good quite a while ago.

And.....
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by binary2nd:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by binary2nd:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NinerBoss:





LOL, I know its kinda mean but this guy isnt the sharpest tool in the shed. I cant see!!! its just your helmet. oh, im ok!

In the heat of the moment I'm sure that was pretty scary. I don't recall what he got on the wonderlic but by all reports he's a highly intelligent guy.


he scored lower than Newton, Vick range.

He scored a 20. Better than some guy named Jim Kelly and another named Dan Marino.

...that were good quite a while ago.

And.....

2011 is not equal to 1990. Scoring a 20 means you probably aren't very intelligent.
[ Edited by binary2nd on Apr 24, 2011 at 4:49 PM ]
  • Shifty
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I'm not on the bandwagon by any means, but i can understand if we trade up and take him in the late 1st or early 2nd. Let him sit behind Alex/Other FA Veteran for a year. Honestly, can't predict if any of the QB's are gonna light it up from day 1. If Harbaugh feels he can coach up Locker. I can jump on board
  • mike
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Razzano talks about the similarities between Locker and Favre in this article:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ave3iKn6JRwZ6ekMzs.aKuZDubYF?slug=ms-silver_rogue_scout_enjoys_label_042511

I wasn't impressed with his accuracy the few times I've watched him, but it is hard to judge players without access to a ton of tapes because if you see a trend of simply having a lot of passes dropped by receivers, then his completion % is skewed. It seems like razzano knows his s**t and I like him for going against the grain.
[ Edited by mike on Apr 24, 2011 at 7:29 PM ]
  • mike
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Originally posted by binary2nd:
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by binary2nd:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by binary2nd:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NinerBoss:





LOL, I know its kinda mean but this guy isnt the sharpest tool in the shed. I cant see!!! its just your helmet. oh, im ok!

In the heat of the moment I'm sure that was pretty scary. I don't recall what he got on the wonderlic but by all reports he's a highly intelligent guy.


he scored lower than Newton, Vick range.

He scored a 20. Better than some guy named Jim Kelly and another named Dan Marino.

...that were good quite a while ago.

And.....

2011 is not equal to 1990. Scoring a 20 means you probably aren't very intelligent.

Guys are bigger/stronger(better roids lol), but what else has changed? I don't see why a QB has to be a genius to be successful as a quarterback.

At the same time you can be "too smart", over-analyzing plays and ultimately not getting the ball to receivers fast enough.

I think as long as they aren't nate davis dumb(scored 11), where you can't memorize plays, intelligence won't be a huge factor. 20 is like he's horrible at math, big f**king deal. I don't think he's going to have many math equations pop up on the field during a game.
[ Edited by mike on Apr 24, 2011 at 7:48 PM ]
Originally posted by binary2nd:
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by binary2nd:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by binary2nd:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NinerBoss:





LOL, I know its kinda mean but this guy isnt the sharpest tool in the shed. I cant see!!! its just your helmet. oh, im ok!

In the heat of the moment I'm sure that was pretty scary. I don't recall what he got on the wonderlic but by all reports he's a highly intelligent guy.


he scored lower than Newton, Vick range.

He scored a 20. Better than some guy named Jim Kelly and another named Dan Marino.

...that were good quite a while ago.

And.....

2011 is not equal to 1990. Scoring a 20 means you probably aren't very intelligent.

Other than fans having access to test results what has changed about quarterbacking since 1990?

If you want a more recent example Donovan McNabb scored a 15.
Similarly, Razzano was down on former Washington quarterback Jake Locker – until he watched more tape.

“Everybody says he’s inaccurate,” Razzano said as Locker completed an intermediate pass against USC on the TV behind him. “He’s not – he throws a great ball! It’s a low-percentage offense. There’s never anybody open underneath, and he’s got no protection. You can see it if you look closely enough. People are stupid.

“[Brett] Favre went in the second round, right? If you look at their college stats, Favre and Locker are practically identical. Now look at this play: Tell me this guy doesn’t move like Favre, scramble like Favre, throw like Favre. Pretend he has the number four on his jersey. His release is a lot like Favre, too.”

Razzano paused the tape and, from a stack in the corner of the room, pulled out an old, handwritten 49ers draft board to review his and other decision-makers’ grades on Favre. No one in the organization foresaw greatness, but the offensive coordinator at the time was the Southern Mississippi quarterback’s biggest proponent. “[Mike] Holmgren liked him the most,” Razzano said, smiling at the revelation. If this were a movie, that would be classified as foreshadowing.

Before I departed, Razzano wanted to give me one, final look at his favorite quarterback in this year’s draft. “Let’s watch Favre,” he said before catching himself. “I mean Locker. Man … I’m calling the guy ‘Favre.’ ”

Watching Locker roll to his right and release the ball just before an oncoming pass rusher arrived, Razzano exclaimed, “Look, he puts his shoulder into it. Look! It’s just like Favre. If people can’t see that …”

mike silver yahoo
Originally posted by global_nomad:
Similarly, Razzano was down on former Washington quarterback Jake Locker – until he watched more tape.

“Everybody says he’s inaccurate,” Razzano said as Locker completed an intermediate pass against USC on the TV behind him. “He’s not – he throws a great ball! It’s a low-percentage offense. There’s never anybody open underneath, and he’s got no protection. You can see it if you look closely enough. People are stupid.

“[Brett] Favre went in the second round, right? If you look at their college stats, Favre and Locker are practically identical. Now look at this play: Tell me this guy doesn’t move like Favre, scramble like Favre, throw like Favre. Pretend he has the number four on his jersey. His release is a lot like Favre, too.”

Razzano paused the tape and, from a stack in the corner of the room, pulled out an old, handwritten 49ers draft board to review his and other decision-makers’ grades on Favre. No one in the organization foresaw greatness, but the offensive coordinator at the time was the Southern Mississippi quarterback’s biggest proponent. “[Mike] Holmgren liked him the most,” Razzano said, smiling at the revelation. If this were a movie, that would be classified as foreshadowing.

Before I departed, Razzano wanted to give me one, final look at his favorite quarterback in this year’s draft. “Let’s watch Favre,” he said before catching himself. “I mean Locker. Man … I’m calling the guy ‘Favre.’ ”

Watching Locker roll to his right and release the ball just before an oncoming pass rusher arrived, Razzano exclaimed, “Look, he puts his shoulder into it. Look! It’s just like Favre. If people can’t see that …”

mike silver yahoo

hes an idiot why anyone would go to him for advice is beyond me
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by global_nomad:
Similarly, Razzano was down on former Washington quarterback Jake Locker – until he watched more tape.

“Everybody says he’s inaccurate,” Razzano said as Locker completed an intermediate pass against USC on the TV behind him. “He’s not – he throws a great ball! It’s a low-percentage offense. There’s never anybody open underneath, and he’s got no protection. You can see it if you look closely enough. People are stupid.

“[Brett] Favre went in the second round, right? If you look at their college stats, Favre and Locker are practically identical. Now look at this play: Tell me this guy doesn’t move like Favre, scramble like Favre, throw like Favre. Pretend he has the number four on his jersey. His release is a lot like Favre, too.”

Razzano paused the tape and, from a stack in the corner of the room, pulled out an old, handwritten 49ers draft board to review his and other decision-makers’ grades on Favre. No one in the organization foresaw greatness, but the offensive coordinator at the time was the Southern Mississippi quarterback’s biggest proponent. “[Mike] Holmgren liked him the most,” Razzano said, smiling at the revelation. If this were a movie, that would be classified as foreshadowing.

Before I departed, Razzano wanted to give me one, final look at his favorite quarterback in this year’s draft. “Let’s watch Favre,” he said before catching himself. “I mean Locker. Man … I’m calling the guy ‘Favre.’ ”

Watching Locker roll to his right and release the ball just before an oncoming pass rusher arrived, Razzano exclaimed, “Look, he puts his shoulder into it. Look! It’s just like Favre. If people can’t see that …”

mike silver yahoo

hes an idiot why anyone would go to him for advice is beyond me
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by global_nomad:
Similarly, Razzano was down on former Washington quarterback Jake Locker – until he watched more tape.

“Everybody says he’s inaccurate,” Razzano said as Locker completed an intermediate pass against USC on the TV behind him. “He’s not – he throws a great ball! It’s a low-percentage offense. There’s never anybody open underneath, and he’s got no protection. You can see it if you look closely enough. People are stupid.

“[Brett] Favre went in the second round, right? If you look at their college stats, Favre and Locker are practically identical. Now look at this play: Tell me this guy doesn’t move like Favre, scramble like Favre, throw like Favre. Pretend he has the number four on his jersey. His release is a lot like Favre, too.”

Razzano paused the tape and, from a stack in the corner of the room, pulled out an old, handwritten 49ers draft board to review his and other decision-makers’ grades on Favre. No one in the organization foresaw greatness, but the offensive coordinator at the time was the Southern Mississippi quarterback’s biggest proponent. “[Mike] Holmgren liked him the most,” Razzano said, smiling at the revelation. If this were a movie, that would be classified as foreshadowing.

Before I departed, Razzano wanted to give me one, final look at his favorite quarterback in this year’s draft. “Let’s watch Favre,” he said before catching himself. “I mean Locker. Man … I’m calling the guy ‘Favre.’ ”

Watching Locker roll to his right and release the ball just before an oncoming pass rusher arrived, Razzano exclaimed, “Look, he puts his shoulder into it. Look! It’s just like Favre. If people can’t see that …”

mike silver yahoo

hes an idiot why anyone would go to him for advice is beyond me


He's scouted players for 3 different super winning teams.

I think he's earned a little more faith than you're giving him.

And according the article, he's the one who scouted one of my all time favorite 9ers, Merton Hanks.

So I'm going to have to disagree with your idiot assessment.
  • MuggD
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I think I might be hopping on this wagon.
  • FL9er
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I flip-flop everyday, but I get the feeling this guy would be the perfect QB for Harbaugh to mold. Mike Lombardi has said that he would be a darkhorse candidate for the 49ers at #7 . I've read he might go to Ten at #8, or Washington at #10.

Compare Andrew Luck to Locker. Athletically, Locker is every bit as athletic as Luck, with Luck having the better mechanics. He didn't arrive at Stanford as the player he is now, I think Harbaugh had a lot to do with it.

His college career #s compare favorably with HOF Brett Favre, not that doesn't mean anything. It depends on the team he goes to, but this guy might be the next Ben Roethlisberger or the next Kyle Boller.

Touching on jimbagg's point, I also believe if the 49ers move down they're targeting a QB. We are all fretting about Quinn, Amukamara, Peterson, but they also need a QB, our draft boards are probably way different from what the brass is thinking.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to come away with say an elite defensive player AND a QB, but the draft doesn't always go according to plan.
Originally posted by FL9er:
I flip-flop everyday, but I get the feeling this guy would be the perfect QB for Harbaugh to mold. Mike Lombardi has said that he would be a darkhorse candidate for the 49ers at #7 . I've read he might go to Ten at #8, or Washington at #10.

Compare Andrew Luck to Locker. Athletically, Locker is every bit as athletic as Luck, with Luck having the better mechanics. He didn't arrive at Stanford as the player he is now, I think Harbaugh had a lot to do with it.

His college career #s compare favorably with HOF Brett Favre, not that doesn't mean anything. It depends on the team he goes to, but this guy might be the next Ben Roethlisberger or the next Kyle Boller.

Touching on jimbagg's point, I also believe if the 49ers move down they're targeting a QB. We are all fretting about Quinn, Amukamara, Peterson, but they also need a QB, our draft boards are probably way different from what the brass is thinking.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to come away with say an elite defensive player AND a QB, but the draft doesn't always go according to plan.

I agree. IMO Locker would strive under Harbaugh, but the value at corner and pass rusher is so much better at #7.
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