JJ Watt

Originally posted by Kolohe:
If he doesn't sign with SF for cheap, it ain't happenin. Much rather stick with DJ Jones (re-sign) and Kinlaw. 49ers gotta try and re-sign Hyder or get Ryan Kerrigan.

Lol what?. You know positions are a thing, right?

I feel like he could come over for a friendly deal if we land Watson. Our team would be favorites for the next 2-3 years with them both

Originally posted by jersey49er:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
If he doesn't sign with SF for cheap, it ain't happenin. Much rather stick with DJ Jones (re-sign) and Kinlaw. 49ers gotta try and re-sign Hyder or get Ryan Kerrigan.

What it'll cost to resign Jones and Hyder might be more then it will be to sign Watt, sounds like Jones is going to sign to the highest bidder and idk about Hyder, he will have a lot of bidders too, what do you think Jones and Hyder worth is ?

The free agent market will be filled with good D-lineman, I wouldn't worry about re-signing Jones. Hyder may be a bit tricky and shoot he may follow Saleh, but then there's Ryan Kerrigan, who I'd much rather see a 49er. Besides, there will be a lot of suitors.....A LOT, and I'm willing to bet Green Bay comes calling. Watt will definitely price himself out of the 49ers range, sure there maybe interest, but no way the 9ers outbid any team with more cap space.

Like I said, if he's not willing to sign for cheap, it's not happenin.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
If he doesn't sign with SF for cheap, it ain't happenin. Much rather stick with DJ Jones (re-sign) and Kinlaw. 49ers gotta try and re-sign Hyder or get Ryan Kerrigan.

Lol what?. You know positions are a thing, right?

You also know money is too right?? Or did you think they played because they love the game.

My god, you guys actually think the 9ers will be the only one interested??

While I wouldn't hate Watt, IMO he's not really an ideal fit for what we need. IMO we need that speed rusher and that's not his game. He's more of a AA type of player. It's a big pass for me. I'm glad he's on the market, which throws another name in the DL market.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
It would have to be a really massive pay cut, they arent just cap tight they are over and not by a little bit. I know Tampa has a lot of guys to sign but I could see a guy like Suh not getting picked up in favor of a younger/cheaper option or draft pic for example and that money going to JJ. It is very fluid there, kinda like us, but they have a little more working capital, a few more rather expensive mouths to feed, and a shiny new trophy to use as free agent bait.

I mean he's got a $40M cap hit...he could do whatever. I could see them saving like $30M. They just saved $8M with their center retiring.

I'll bet money JJ wants to play with his brothers. Like you said it's all fluid.

They are like 30 mil over cap still last I checked. so if he saves them 30 they are at net zero...would still need to trim a lot of fat. They arent like Nola bad off, but they have a ton of work to do to just get a roster, much less sign anybody.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by jersey49er:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
If he doesn't sign with SF for cheap, it ain't happenin. Much rather stick with DJ Jones (re-sign) and Kinlaw. 49ers gotta try and re-sign Hyder or get Ryan Kerrigan.

What it'll cost to resign Jones and Hyder might be more then it will be to sign Watt, sounds like Jones is going to sign to the highest bidder and idk about Hyder, he will have a lot of bidders too, what do you think Jones and Hyder worth is ?

The free agent market will be filled with good D-lineman, I wouldn't worry about re-signing Jones. Hyder may be a bit tricky and shoot he may follow Saleh, but then there's Ryan Kerrigan, who I'd much rather see a 49er. Besides, there will be a lot of suitors.....A LOT, and I'm willing to bet Green Bay comes calling. Watt will definitely price himself out of the 49ers range, sure there maybe interest, but no way the 9ers outbid any team with more cap space.

Like I said, if he's not willing to sign for cheap, it's not happenin.

Green Bay also way over cap. -29 mil or so if I recall.

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
It would have to be a really massive pay cut, they arent just cap tight they are over and not by a little bit. I know Tampa has a lot of guys to sign but I could see a guy like Suh not getting picked up in favor of a younger/cheaper option or draft pic for example and that money going to JJ. It is very fluid there, kinda like us, but they have a little more working capital, a few more rather expensive mouths to feed, and a shiny new trophy to use as free agent bait.

I mean he's got a $40M cap hit...he could do whatever. I could see them saving like $30M. They just saved $8M with their center retiring.

I'll bet money JJ wants to play with his brothers. Like you said it's all fluid.

They are like 30 mil over cap still last I checked. so if he saves them 30 they are at net zero...would still need to trim a lot of fat. They arent like Nola bad off, but they have a ton of work to do to just get a roster, much less sign anybody.

Sorry just looked it up, they are 20 over, if Ben saved them 30...and that is a huge if, they would have 10 in space and still need to sign other players and their draft picks. Any team that is over by more than 5 is going to see some serious bloodshed. I don't know how they can be considered contenders to then sign more players with any kind of name recognition.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Before you ask ... uh, no.

— Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoNBCS) February 12, 2021

For the record I agree...I really, really doubt it would happen. Just saying the places being trotted out are in worse shape than we are by quite a lot.

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
They are like 30 mil over cap still last I checked. so if he saves them 30 they are at net zero...would still need to trim a lot of fat. They arent like Nola bad off, but they have a ton of work to do to just get a roster, much less sign anybody.

Hell he could play on the vet min which frees up $40M. The center retiring just freed up $8M, I'm sure they will restructure and whatnot.

I'm just saying I wouldn't be shocked to see him there. Possibly INDY/Tenn as well. I'll tell ya where he's not going lol SF

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Demeco you better be on the phone!!

Again, I doubt he comes in at our price range. We aren't the Brady era Patriot here where everyone views us as the closest to a sure thing chance at a ring as can be had. That would probably be KC and maybe Tampa now because Tom is there. KC is going to badly cap strapped, but I would be looking at Tampa for obvious reasons, or Indy who has a ton of money and just needs to find a QB.

Tampa has some of their own to pay

Shaquil Barrett
Lavonte David
Rob Gronkowski
Ndamukong Suh
Chris Godwin
possible AB

and you got a bunch of dudes in a yr that need to get paid on top of it, like half that OL Brady JPP that secondary etc

I wouldn't be shocked if he ends up in Pitt with his brother. Big Ben is gonna take a MASSIVE pay cut reportedly.

Rob Gronkowski is not going anywhere. I doubt AB is going anywhere either. Chris Godwin is gone.

If the Bucs want to repeat they need to bring that defense back intact. Namely Barrett and David.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Before you ask ... uh, no.

— Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoNBCS) February 12, 2021

Does he know position is a thing.

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by jersey49er:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
If he doesn't sign with SF for cheap, it ain't happenin. Much rather stick with DJ Jones (re-sign) and Kinlaw. 49ers gotta try and re-sign Hyder or get Ryan Kerrigan.

What it'll cost to resign Jones and Hyder might be more then it will be to sign Watt, sounds like Jones is going to sign to the highest bidder and idk about Hyder, he will have a lot of bidders too, what do you think Jones and Hyder worth is ?

The free agent market will be filled with good D-lineman, I wouldn't worry about re-signing Jones. Hyder may be a bit tricky and shoot he may follow Saleh, but then there's Ryan Kerrigan, who I'd much rather see a 49er. Besides, there will be a lot of suitors.....A LOT, and I'm willing to bet Green Bay comes calling. Watt will definitely price himself out of the 49ers range, sure there maybe interest, but no way the 9ers outbid any team with more cap space.

Like I said, if he's not willing to sign for cheap, it's not happenin.

Green Bay also way over cap. -29 mil or so if I recall.

Oh s**t you're right. But I was just thinking he would give a hometown discount growing up there.

Originally posted by DJamhour:
I feel like he could come over for a friendly deal if we land Watson. Our team would be favorites for the next 2-3 years with them both

not if we end up sending Bosa or Warner for Watson...