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Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by Kolohe:


BJ could've seriously ended the fight here.



Or here.



What you dont see in that first pic is BJ had his ankles crossed a few second before that photo was taken. I think BJ let go of that armbar early. I think he had it.

Look at jenns face. You look AWAY from an armbar to escape it not in to it.


Either BJ thought he didnt have it, Thought Jenns taped, Or felt like he wanted to beat up on Jenns more in that fight.



The Triangle choke can be done from there but its damn hard unless you control the Left arm and pull it across your body to use his shoulder to help choke him.

I thought the same thing when he let the arm bar go. I thought he just wanted to kick his ass some more, cuz he had it. Great sportsmanship in the end.
The Prodigy probably not going to stay in the lightweight division....BJ wants Matt Hughes again....Please let it happen again!!!
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Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by Kolohe:


BJ could've seriously ended the fight here.



Or here.



What you dont see in that first pic is BJ had his ankles crossed a few second before that photo was taken. I think BJ let go of that armbar early. I think he had it.

Look at jenns face. You look AWAY from an armbar to escape it not in to it.


Either BJ thought he didnt have it, Thought Jenns taped, Or felt like he wanted to beat up on Jenns more in that fight.



The Triangle choke can be done from there but its damn hard unless you control the Left arm and pull it across your body to use his shoulder to help choke him.

I thought the same thing when he let the arm bar go. I thought he just wanted to kick his ass some more, cuz he had it. Great sportsmanship in the end.
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Penn looked like the hungrier and more skilled fighter, even though Pulver gave it his all. There were a few times during the skirmish where it appeared as though Penn (11-4-1) could have ended the fight early and gone for either an armbar or rear-naked choke, but he seemed content to keep a slower pace in an effort to administer a more potent beating.

"He didn't go for the easy submission," Pulver stated immediately following his disappointing loss. "He tried to beat the hell out of me. I respect him more and more every minute. B.J.'s a savage; he's very good."

Penn just didn't want to end it so quickly.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by Kolohe:


BJ could've seriously ended the fight here.



Or here.



What you dont see in that first pic is BJ had his ankles crossed a few second before that photo was taken. I think BJ let go of that armbar early. I think he had it.

Look at jenns face. You look AWAY from an armbar to escape it not in to it.


Either BJ thought he didnt have it, Thought Jenns taped, Or felt like he wanted to beat up on Jenns more in that fight.



The Triangle choke can be done from there but its damn hard unless you control the Left arm and pull it across your body to use his shoulder to help choke him.

I thought the same thing when he let the arm bar go. I thought he just wanted to kick his ass some more, cuz he had it. Great sportsmanship in the end.
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Penn looked like the hungrier and more skilled fighter, even though Pulver gave it his all. There were a few times during the skirmish where it appeared as though Penn (11-4-1) could have ended the fight early and gone for either an armbar or rear-naked choke, but he seemed content to keep a slower pace in an effort to administer a more potent beating.

"He didn't go for the easy submission," Pulver stated immediately following his disappointing loss. "He tried to beat the hell out of me. I respect him more and more every minute. B.J.'s a savage; he's very good."

Penn just didn't want to end it so quickly.

BJ Penn was waiting for the crowd...thumbs up or thumbs down...
We actually worked that Arm bar in class this week( against turtle and sitting guard)


I am a sad little monkey i never landed one in live sparing corse i have never been armed bared either.


At this point i would never have my go to attack one some one in turtle be an arm-bar....but...then again....i am not bj penn
Originally posted by Dshearn:
We actually worked that Arm bar in class this week( against turtle and sitting guard)


I am a sad little monkey i never landed one in live sparing corse i have never been armed bared either.


At this point i would never have my go to attack one some one in turtle be an arm-bar....but...then again....i am not bj penn

What's turtle? When they're face down, just covering up?
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
We actually worked that Arm bar in class this week( against turtle and sitting guard)


I am a sad little monkey i never landed one in live sparing corse i have never been armed bared either.


At this point i would never have my go to attack one some one in turtle be an arm-bar....but...then again....i am not bj penn

What's turtle? When they're face down, just covering up?




Yes when some one gives up their back, most of the time to escape blows from mount. When you have to give up your back you want to lock your elbows in to your knees so some one cant get their hooks in to flatten you. Your hopeing some one will try to get their hooks in so you can explode back to your feet or roll them back in to guard, when they are off balance from trying to get thier hooks in.
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
We actually worked that Arm bar in class this week( against turtle and sitting guard)


I am a sad little monkey i never landed one in live sparing corse i have never been armed bared either.


At this point i would never have my go to attack one some one in turtle be an arm-bar....but...then again....i am not bj penn

What's turtle? When they're face down, just covering up?




Yes when some one gives up their back, most of the time to escape blows from mount. When you have to give up your back you want to lock your elbows in to your knees so some one cant get their hooks in to flatten you. Your hopeing some one will try to get their hooks in so you can explode back to your feet or roll them back in to guard, when they are off balance from trying to get thier hooks in.

Gottcha.
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Roy Jones on the UFC

"I watch it all the time. They have the best fighters fighting the best fighters and that's what boxing needs. You never can tell what will happen in a fight. Look at the last [Chuck] Liddell fight. Bam, 10 seconds it was over. They got that explosion they were waiting for. Boxing didn't get the same explosion out of Mayweather-De La Hoya," Jones said.

"UFC is a great thing, but boxing has to get on it's a game. UFC is the best fighting the best and that what boxing has to do. If you are an ultimate fighter, you are going to fight someone who is going to fight. In UFC, if you lose to a good fighter, you lost, you still know you are good fighter, and you come back the next day and fight again. In boxing, if you lose and that's it. You are done.I lose a few fights they want to tell me I'm washed up and I don't have it no more."

Jones was realistic when asked about his chances in a UFC ring. He knows that he is vulnerable on the ground and possesses a clear advantage if the fight stays on top.

"Now, I can't get on the ground and start wresting because I know nothing about that. But if I hit him before he gets to the ground, he's not going to get up and have the chance to wrestle," Jones said.

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Originally posted by jimrat201:
Roy Jones on the UFC

"I watch it all the time. They have the best fighters fighting the best fighters and that's what boxing needs. You never can tell what will happen in a fight. Look at the last [Chuck] Liddell fight. Bam, 10 seconds it was over. They got that explosion they were waiting for. Boxing didn't get the same explosion out of Mayweather-De La Hoya," Jones said.

"UFC is a great thing, but boxing has to get on it's a game. UFC is the best fighting the best and that what boxing has to do. If you are an ultimate fighter, you are going to fight someone who is going to fight. In UFC, if you lose to a good fighter, you lost, you still know you are good fighter, and you come back the next day and fight again. In boxing, if you lose and that's it. You are done.I lose a few fights they want to tell me I'm washed up and I don't have it no more."

Jones was realistic when asked about his chances in a UFC ring. He knows that he is vulnerable on the ground and possesses a clear advantage if the fight stays on top.

"Now, I can't get on the ground and start wresting because I know nothing about that. But if I hit him before he gets to the ground, he's not going to get up and have the chance to wrestle," Jones said.

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And here we have it once again, a boxer....excuse me a HOF boxer in Mr. Roy Jones knows whats up with the UFC and speaks the truth. But sorry Jones I think you are a bit washed up, but good luck to you against Trinidad.
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Originally posted by jimrat201:

LMAO!!!!

But the truth is.....the UFC owns Pride, so all this Pride vs. UFC is down the drain....one question, where are all the Pride fighters going now a days???

.........riiiiiiiiiiight.
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Fedor Emelianenko and Shogun signing
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...eign.invasion/

With a win in his Octagon debut at UFC 76 in September, Mauricio “Shogun” Rua will earn the opportunity to challenge for the light heavyweight championship, according to recent statements from UFC President Dana White on SportsIllustrated.com.

Here’s the snip:

“White says that if Shogun wins in September, he will get the next title shot at the UFC Light Heavyweight Title. That could lead to a rematch with [Quinton “Rampage”] Jackson, who Shogun obliterated in Japan.”

Obliterated might be an understatement — the beating that Shogun dished out in 2005 en route to the middleweight grand prix title was downright criminal.

Of course, Rampage is now the current 205-pound champion after he defeated Chuck Liddell at UFC 71 in May. He is set to make his first title defense against PRIDE FC middleweight and welterweight champion Dan Henderson at UFC 75 in London, England, on September 8.

In the same article, White mentions that he is “very interested” in PRIDE FC Heavyweight Champion Fedor Emelianenko and is “working on getting a deal done.”

Part of that deal, it appears, may be an instant title shot against either current champion Randy Couture or Gabriel Gonzaga — the two are set to clash at UFC 74 in August.

Here’s another snip:

“Part of the difficulty for him is Fedor’s management team. White says that he has ‘no idea what these crazy Russians are going to do.’ White will give Fedor an immediate title shot if and when he is brought in.”

If and when? That sounds imminent.

Clearly, the signing of Fedor would be a boon for the UFC and its fans. However, some might be uneasy about a fighter coming in from another organization and leapfrogging Octagon veterans who have been working their way up the ladder.

But that goes to show how talented Fedor and Shogun are — these two are arguably the top fighters in their divisions in the sport today.
Originally posted by jimrat201:
Fedor Emelianenko and Shogun signing
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...eign.invasion/

With a win in his Octagon debut at UFC 76 in September, Mauricio “Shogun” Rua will earn the opportunity to challenge for the light heavyweight championship, according to recent statements from UFC President Dana White on SportsIllustrated.com.

Here’s the snip:

“White says that if Shogun wins in September, he will get the next title shot at the UFC Light Heavyweight Title. That could lead to a rematch with [Quinton “Rampage”] Jackson, who Shogun obliterated in Japan.”

Obliterated might be an understatement — the beating that Shogun dished out in 2005 en route to the middleweight grand prix title was downright criminal.

Of course, Rampage is now the current 205-pound champion after he defeated Chuck Liddell at UFC 71 in May. He is set to make his first title defense against PRIDE FC middleweight and welterweight champion Dan Henderson at UFC 75 in London, England, on September 8.

In the same article, White mentions that he is “very interested” in PRIDE FC Heavyweight Champion Fedor Emelianenko and is “working on getting a deal done.”

Part of that deal, it appears, may be an instant title shot against either current champion Randy Couture or Gabriel Gonzaga — the two are set to clash at UFC 74 in August.

Here’s another snip:

“Part of the difficulty for him is Fedor’s management team. White says that he has ‘no idea what these crazy Russians are going to do.’ White will give Fedor an immediate title shot if and when he is brought in.”

If and when? That sounds imminent.

Clearly, the signing of Fedor would be a boon for the UFC and its fans. However, some might be uneasy about a fighter coming in from another organization and leapfrogging Octagon veterans who have been working their way up the ladder.

But that goes to show how talented Fedor and Shogun are — these two are arguably the top fighters in their divisions in the sport today.

Fedor and Shogun will be hard to knock off once they enter the Octagon. But hey who knows Liddell could have Shoguns number, you never know. Its definitely going to be different for both fighters since all they have pretty much faced is Japanese and Brazilian fighters. I would love to see brandon Vera pull off a stunning upset over Fedor, some might laugh at the idea of it, but Brandon Vera is a true sleeper in the UFC, many are over looking that guy. Can't wait though to see the two in action.