Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
You mean you arent a total believer in Sabermetrics and hold them as gospel? Shame on you. If you did, you would know that the best player in baseball this year is of course Brett Lawrie. His WAR tops Joey Votto, Josh Hamilton, Mike Trout, and Andrew McCutchen. Or maybe you also didnt know that Ben Zobrist was the best position player in baseball last year. Not Kemp. Not Braun. Not Ellsbury. Yes BEN ZOBRIST. The highest WAR in baseball.
I dont know. I think I will stick to some of the stone age stats. They seem to be a pretty good measure.
You do know the majority of baseball front offices use the statistics I mention in here on a regular basis right?
I don't know where you got that Lawrie has the best WAR this year, its Votto. and last year it was Ellsbury. WAR isn't the only measuring stick, but its good for taking defense into account.
You're so outdated in this regard, and you don't even know it. You sound like Joe Morgan giving an analysis right now. Guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
1) I think its awesome that you have polled the 30 GMs in baseball on which stats they use on a regular basis. Can you get me their email addresses and their cell phones? I would like to talk to them too.
2) You are really getting obnoxious wtith your sabermetrics and that those of that dont buy into them all as the end all for evaluations somehow are outdated and dont know what we are talking about.
3) As to Zobrist having the highest WAR in 2011 and Lawrie having the highest this year. Well I didnt make it up. If the site isnt accurate I suggest you email them and correct them:
Votto ? I dont know because he wasnt in top 10 and trailed Alex Gordon
Like I have said over and over... Joey Votto is great. Special player. Your claim that he is the best and its not even close is the one statement in this thread that is totally off base. Maybe you need to watch more baseball and not just study Billy Beane's scouting reports.
[ Edited by Ninerjohn on Jul 12, 2012 at 7:33 PM ]