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Triple Crown (Kentucky Derby, Phreakness and Belmont)

Its a shame that Black caviar isn't recognised here more in the states. What that mare has done is unbelievable. (Undefeated in her 21 starts in her career) The racing industry in the USA is no where near as respected as it is in the rest of the world where these Animals can be as famous as regular athletes.
Originally posted by 49erstrandedinclev:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by 49erstrandedinclev:
And for all you Jerks who think that Horse racing is over drugged they get tested way more than any Professional Athlete. The equivalent would be in baseball if after every Home Run or Win by a pitcher that they would have to Pee in a cup and be tested.

So you're saying there is no drugging of any horse, what-so-ever, because they test them after every race?

I am saying that there is less drugging in horse racing than any other sport. People who are not involved in it are just listening to the PETA propaganda an organisation that is run by a bunch of people who are wanna be 60's hippies but missed there calling because there parents wouldn't let them out of the house.

Yup, looks like this is a super clean operation. No drugging here. Just check out this article by a non-PETA propaganda organization not run by 60's hippies wannabee's called the NY Times. Who is it about? Mainly, I'll Have Another's trainer...he's one of the "real clean ones"...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/11/sports/trainer-of-kentucky-derby-winner-has-a-troubled-record.html?pagewanted=all
Originally posted by 49erstrandedinclev:
Its a shame that Black caviar isn't recognised here more in the states. What that mare has done is unbelievable. (Undefeated in her 21 starts in her career) The racing industry in the USA is no where near as respected as it is in the rest of the world where these Animals can be as famous as regular athletes.

What are you talking about? Smokey Bear is very well respected here in the USA.
She really is an amazing animal, the public love her here.
She was meant to race at the railway stakes in Perth, 40,000 tickets sold out then she didn't come I think the attendance that day was around 15,000 in the end, then she raced in Adelaide twice in 3 weeks and the racetrack made their season quota in 2 meets. Just an unreal effect on the industry.

Here's hoping she can continue the streak at Royal Ascot. Jockey will actually have to pull the whip for a change hopefully ( there is now a betting market on if the jockey pulls the whip or not in Australia )
Originally posted by dcsham:
Originally posted by 49erstrandedinclev:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by 49erstrandedinclev:
And for all you Jerks who think that Horse racing is over drugged they get tested way more than any Professional Athlete. The equivalent would be in baseball if after every Home Run or Win by a pitcher that they would have to Pee in a cup and be tested.

So you're saying there is no drugging of any horse, what-so-ever, because they test them after every race?

I am saying that there is less drugging in horse racing than any other sport. People who are not involved in it are just listening to the PETA propaganda an organisation that is run by a bunch of people who are wanna be 60's hippies but missed there calling because there parents wouldn't let them out of the house.

Yup, looks like this is a super clean operation. No drugging here. Just check out this article by a non-PETA propaganda organization not run by 60's hippies wannabee's called the NY Times. Who is it about? Mainly, I'll Have Another's trainer...he's one of the "real clean ones"...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/11/sports/trainer-of-kentucky-derby-winner-has-a-troubled-record.html?pagewanted=all

So he gave Sodium Bicarbonate to a horse, or by its common house hold name baking soda. I would really call that major drugging considering it is an electrolyte commonly used to treat a horse condition called tying up. Can it give a horse with that condition an advantage yes but isn't the point that the guy got caught unlike baseball which turned a blind eye to there major drug abuse problem. The horse racing industry has been fighting hard for years to clean up there game and do a far better job of being open about who the cheats are and giving them the necessary punishments.

But as most people who criticise horse racing only pay attention to it for three races a year they would have no back ground in what has been done in this industry and only read the articles that mysteriously appear from the time the Kentucky Derby comes around till the Belmont ends. Then after that the lobbyist groups disappear because they are getting no national attention.
Originally posted by Aussie49ah:
She really is an amazing animal, the public love her here.
She was meant to race at the railway stakes in Perth, 40,000 tickets sold out then she didn't come I think the attendance that day was around 15,000 in the end, then she raced in Adelaide twice in 3 weeks and the racetrack made their season quota in 2 meets. Just an unreal effect on the industry.

Here's hoping she can continue the streak at Royal Ascot. Jockey will actually have to pull the whip for a change hopefully ( there is now a betting market on if the jockey pulls the whip or not in Australia )

As long as she doesn't have to go up distance and race Frankel I think she will be ok. Even though travelling that far to race is always a wild card.
Originally posted by Aussie49ah:
She really is an amazing animal, the public love her here.
She was meant to race at the railway stakes in Perth, 40,000 tickets sold out then she didn't come I think the attendance that day was around 15,000 in the end, then she raced in Adelaide twice in 3 weeks and the racetrack made their season quota in 2 meets. Just an unreal effect on the industry.

Here's hoping she can continue the streak at Royal Ascot. Jockey will actually have to pull the whip for a change hopefully ( there is now a betting market on if the jockey pulls the whip or not in Australia )

Damn, since AC/DC and Rose Tattoo, things must be pretty quiet down under.
Originally posted by 49erstrandedinclev:
Originally posted by Aussie49ah:
She really is an amazing animal, the public love her here.
She was meant to race at the railway stakes in Perth, 40,000 tickets sold out then she didn't come I think the attendance that day was around 15,000 in the end, then she raced in Adelaide twice in 3 weeks and the racetrack made their season quota in 2 meets. Just an unreal effect on the industry.

Here's hoping she can continue the streak at Royal Ascot. Jockey will actually have to pull the whip for a change hopefully ( there is now a betting market on if the jockey pulls the whip or not in Australia )

As long as she doesn't have to go up distance and race Frankel I think she will be ok. Even though travelling that far to race is always a wild card.

Originally posted by 49erstrandedinclev:
As long as she doesn't have to go up distance and race Frankel I think she will be ok. Even though travelling that far to race is always a wild card.

Will be interesting to see how she pulls up.
I actually think that would be a great race, I don't think the distance is as big a problem as people make out.
Originally posted by dcsham:
Damn, since AC/DC and Rose Tattoo, things must be pretty quiet down under.

Haha been pretty quiet since colonization......

It's just a once in a generation thing that people want to be involved in, the whole telling your grand kid that you watched black caviar race has people flocking to see. It makes the atmosphere at the racecourse that much more electric, it's almost Melbourne cup like.
Originally posted by Aussie49ah:
Originally posted by dcsham:
Damn, since AC/DC and Rose Tattoo, things must be pretty quiet down under.

Haha been pretty quiet since colonization......

It's just a once in a generation thing that people want to be involved in, the whole telling your grand kid that you watched black caviar race has people flocking to see. It makes the atmosphere at the racecourse that much more electric, it's almost Melbourne cup like.

If its Melbourne cup like then that atmosphere must be awesome, think the Melbourne cup is one of the great race days in the world I think the only thing that matches it is the Dubai Cup Day and Kentucky Derby day as an event.
Originally posted by Aussie49ah:
Haha been pretty quiet since colonization......

It's just a once in a generation thing that people want to be involved in, the whole telling your grand kid that you watched black caviar race has people flocking to see. It makes the atmosphere at the racecourse that much more electric, it's almost Melbourne cup like.

I actually would love to go to Australia...I'm a huge AC/DC fan and have researched going to Bon Scott's gravesite in Fremantle but damn it is an expedition from CA and expensive.
[ Edited by dcsham on Jun 5, 2012 at 7:02 PM ]
Originally posted by 49erstrandedinclev:
If its Melbourne cup like then that atmosphere must be awesome, think the Melbourne cup is one of the great race days in the world I think the only thing that matches it is the Dubai Cup Day and Kentucky Derby day as an event.

The roar that goes up as they turn for the home straight is unreal, those are definitely top 3 in my opinion , would love to go to a Kentucky derby one day.
The only roar of a crowd that beats the cup is the one after the national anthem on AFL grand final day , 100,000 screaming fans packed into the MCG
Originally posted by dcsham:
Originally posted by Aussie49ah:
Haha been pretty quiet since colonization......

It's just a once in a generation thing that people want to be involved in, the whole telling your grand kid that you watched black caviar race has people flocking to see. It makes the atmosphere at the racecourse that much more electric, it's almost Melbourne cup like.

I actually would love to go to Australia...I'm a huge AC/DC fan and have researched going to Bon Scott's gravesite in Fremantle but damn it is an expedition from CA and expensive.

16 hours direct from LA. Its a long flight if you ever attempt it make sure you got a good book.
Originally posted by dcsham:
I actually would love to go to Australia...I'm a huge AC/DC fan and have researched going to Bon Scott's gravesite in Fremantle but damn it is an expedition from CA and expensive.

It's a great country definitely worth doing if you can, some Magical places, we're pretty lucky down here really!

I'm about an hour and a half south of freo in bunbury. If you ever have the chance The southwest is one of the best spots going around.

The cost is the only bad thing being so isolated from the rest of the world lol
We're talking about horse racing? Not basketball, not football, not baseball, horse racing? C'mon man horse racing?