Originally posted by dcsham:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:The nice part about the Bumgarner investment is that it is relatively inexpensive at this point. As far as Lincecum goes, we are still a long way off from seeing any kind of decision, but I doubt the Giants will trade him if he is still effective.
I think TImmy will rebound and have great games when his command is on. I do believe, however, that Lincecum is not someone that I would want to give a big long term contract to. The Giants are heavily invested in Cain and Bumgarner ( which were the right decisions for sure) but I think it would be a mistake to do that with Timmy.
The Giants are in big time need of top pitching prospects, a real SS in their organization that can hit, and a middle of the order bat. Lincecum would be by far their best trade chip to get some help in these areas. Who else is there that the team could possibly trade? Panda, Posey? Cain? MAdison? Those guys wont be going anywhere. No one else on this team has real trade value.
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Greinke is a pretty good pitcher. If Timmy doesn't shape up, he may be the piece we need to trade in order to improve the lineup. I hate to say that because for a while, he was our only star. He (along with the new stadium) packed the stands. He won 2 Cy's, helped win the WS...he has my love forever. But being a fan long after he is gone, I wouldn't hesitate to improve the team, especially if he cannot be the dominant pitcher he once was.
Having said all that, I do believe Timmy will regain form sometime this year and go on an unbelievable pitching run to make us say....thats the Timmy I know. Book that.
Greinke is far more than just a "pretty good pitcher". His 2009 season was better than any year Timmy had. A 1.07 whip and 2.16 era in the AL is sick. Not to mention the 242 K's in 195 ips. Last year he was one of the best pitchers in baseball in his first year in the NL. Calling him a POS is just ignorant.
I have no problem trading Lincecum if the trade value is right. He kind of showed his colors by not wanting to agree to the kind of long term deal that Cain did. I think he will test the market and that is why I think he might very well get traded during the off season or sometime during the 2013 year.