Originally posted by HaiGuise:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by bayarealuv:
i like it though.. ortiz better than the last 3 cats pacman fought
i'm a little worried if pac and may ever fight... manny could barely catch a slower mosley.. how is he gonna catch mayweather
I'm not too worried. Pac didn't even train that hard for Mosley and they were too buddy-buddy during the fight. Pac will be motivated for Floyd cuz of all the s**t he talked.
Fight will never happen because Pedman is a cheater. With out his performance enhancing drugs, he wont beat PBF. Ask yourself, I was he going toe to t boe with superlight wieghts like Manuel (I think) and he couldn't even knock him out. 5 years later he's going toe to toe with guys 50 pounds heavier and crazy jaws, but he almost or does knock them out (Mosely, Marg, Ricky). Give me a break. You are bias because he is Pinoy.
lol whoTF is Manuel.... u dunno what ur talking about. If you mean JMM, Pac didn't KO him, but he did knock him down 4 times. Your opinion holds no weight...
Yes Juan Manuel Marquez. And knocking down is not knocking out. Manny, almost knocked out Mosely. The guy is known for have a steel jaw, but his clock was cleaned with one punch. Mosely said he's never been hit that hard. Moreover, when Mosely hit Pac with power punches he didn't even budge. I understand that fighters move up and down wieght class, but never do you see the guys moving up physically dominate the naturally larger man. Pac kept his speed, but significantly increased his strenght. Look what he did to Margarito! Margarito recieved similar punishment in in the beginning rounds of the Cotto fight, but ate it like a champ. Cotto was known for power.
By the way, for you guys that think Pac is a great boxer, you dont know what you are talking about. Ward is a great boxer, PBF is a great boxer, Manny is a great brawler. His defense is s**t for an elite boxer, the only reason why he doesn't get hit more is because of his offense.
P.S. As far as wieght gain; Manny is in his early 30s. Physically you hit your prime around 25ish. I haven't looked at the number yet, but my question would be when did he start gaining all his wieght? People like to say that Floyd and Manny wieghted the same at 16, but that is irrelavant as neither are close to full maturity at that age. If Manny jump in wieght from 16 to 25 ok, but if he made significant wieght gain after that (not from sitting on the coach like most of us) that could be a sign.
I'll give you Pedman defenders this; If he really is clean, which I doubt, he is the best P4P boxer I have ever seen.