Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by bayarealuv:
i like it though.. ortiz better than the last 3 cats pacman fought
i'm a little worried if pac and may ever fight... manny could barely catch a slower mosley.. how is he gonna catch mayweather
I'm not too worried. Pac didn't even train that hard for Mosley and they were too buddy-buddy during the fight. Pac will be motivated for Floyd cuz of all the s**t he talked.
Fight will never happen because Pedman is a cheater. With out his performance enhancing drugs, he wont beat PBF. Ask yourself, I was he going toe to t boe with superlight wieghts like Manuel (I think) and he couldn't even knock him out. 5 years later he's going toe to toe with guys 50 pounds heavier and crazy jaws, but he almost or does knock them out (Mosely, Marg, Ricky). Give me a break. You are bias because he is Pinoy.
That is pretty sound logic, and it also completely exposes that you never watched Manny fight or paid much attention before 2006.
I have watched all of Manny's fights since about 2002. In 2002 through 2005 he was a damned good fighter with a couple of glaring holes. I would have been head over heels happy if he just would have remained as such. But, he fixed those holes though training and what resulted was a complete fighter. In fact he became so complete, he simply HAD to start moving up in weight, because it was clear he was going to need some better competition.
There is so much in technique that is different between the 2005 Pac vs 2011 Pac and none of these attributes can be obtained through PEDs.
BTW, for all the simple minded people who think an undefeated record actually means something, all it means is Pac never WAITED to challenge himself before he became a complete fighter, and Mayweather did.
Tell me as a Mayweather fan, when did he become a complete fighter? Or is it your contention that he always has been?