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This is insane, but got me thinking (top NBA players)

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by TheSixthRing:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by TX9R:
I dont' see any way Shaq is ahead of Hakeem, seeing as how Hakeem owned him and he didn't have to come out at the end of games. Hakeem was the one who dominated centers in the time of centers. By the time Shaq was in his prime, there weren't any left (that weren't old and hobbled).

I've never understood why people always say that Olajuwon dominated Shaq in that series. They pretty much played to a draw.

But the Magic got swept, so the perception will always be that Hakeem destroyed him.

It's also that there are certain guys that are remembered more fondly than others, and Olajuwon's one of those guys. Just like Duncan, no one has a bad thing to say about the guy, and that translates into how he's remembered as a player.

Olajuwon's my favorite non-Laker of all time, and I can't stand Shaq, but Shaq's gotta be the only person to put up 28ppg, 12.5rpg, 6.3assts, & 2.5blks on 54% from the field and still manage to get "owned". You know I'm not a big stats guy, but Shaq was a monster in that series just like Olajuwon was.

Though it could be argued Hakeem had the slightly better numbers (Shaq turned the ball over a lot; 5.25 per), it wasn't by such a margin that he had the clear advantage over Shaq - the Rockets as a team just had more experience on their side.

Yeah, I do think Olajuwon outplayed him, but by a pretty small margin. I remember that series vividly. Olajuwon was great, but he also took a LOT of shots, especially for a center. But history ended up remembering it as Olajuwon destroying Shaq, for some reason.
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One could argue that Shaq at his peak was the most dominant NBA player of all time.

But career-wise, I'd take Hakeem.
Originally posted by crzy:
One could argue that Shaq at his peak was the most dominant NBA player of all time.

But career-wise, I'd take Hakeem.

Agreed on both points.
Originally posted by dobophile:
Originally posted by crzy:
One could argue that Shaq at his peak was the most dominant NBA player of all time.

But career-wise, I'd take Hakeem.

The problem with Shaq is the overwhelming sense of disappointment about him. He could have been so much more.

Even given Shaq's failure to max out his potential, I still think he outranks Hakeem.

Yep. IMO he would have been the GOAT with just an average work ethic. SMH
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Originally posted by dobophile:
Originally posted by crzy:
One could argue that Shaq at his peak was the most dominant NBA player of all time.

But career-wise, I'd take Hakeem.

The problem with Shaq is the overwhelming sense of disappointment about him. He could have been so much more.

Even given Shaq's failure to max out his potential
, I still think he outranks Hakeem.

That's why he doesn't outrank Hakeem to me
Originally posted by vrabbit:
Lebron shouldn't be there
Originally posted by dobophile:
Originally posted by pantstickle:
Originally posted by TheSixthRing:
Originally posted by pantstickle:
1a. Tim Duncan
1b. David Robinson
3-10. Other dudes

Come on pants, don't be shy. Let others know your 3-10... sadly, I've seen this written on your notebooks in class

3. George Gervin
4. Manu Ginobili
5. Tony Parker
6. Sean Elliott
7. Avery Johnson
8. Bruce Bowen
9. Alvin Robertson
10. Chuck Person

Yeah, so!


OK, Sixth. All-Time Spurs vs. All-Time Suns, 12 man rosters

Who wins?

Tony Parker, Avery Johnson
George Gervin, Manu Ginobili, Alvin Robertson
Bruce Bowen, Sean Elliott
Tim Duncan, Larry Kenon, Robert Horry
David Robinson, Artis Gilmore

(pants, feel free to correct my list)

What say you, Sixth?!
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All-Time Spurs crush the All-Time Suns.

Suns wouldn't be able to handle Prime Admiral/Duncan
[ Edited by crzy on Jul 16, 2010 at 2:16 PM ]
Originally posted by pantstickle:
Originally posted by dobophile:
Originally posted by pantstickle:
Originally posted by TheSixthRing:
Originally posted by pantstickle:
1a. Tim Duncan
1b. David Robinson
3-10. Other dudes

Come on pants, don't be shy. Let others know your 3-10... sadly, I've seen this written on your notebooks in class

3. George Gervin
4. Manu Ginobili
5. Tony Parker
6. Sean Elliott
7. Avery Johnson
8. Bruce Bowen
9. Alvin Robertson
10. Chuck Person

Yeah, so!


OK, Sixth. All-Time Spurs vs. All-Time Suns, 12 man rosters

Who wins?

Tony Parker, Avery Johnson
George Gervin, Manu Ginobili, Alvin Robertson
Bruce Bowen, Sean Elliott
Tim Duncan, Larry Kenon, Robert Horry
David Robinson, Artis Gilmore

(pants, feel free to correct my list)

What say you, Sixth?!

PG: Kevin Johnson, Jason Kidd, Steve Nash
SG: Walter Davis, Paul Westphal
SF: Connie Hawkins, Shawn Marion, Dan Majerle
PF: Charles Barkley, Amare Stoudemire, Tom Chambers
C: Alvan Adams

Clearly you b*****ds have the advantage at center. I'd give us the clear advantage at PG. I'd also give us the slight edge at small forward, and a slight edge to you at Power Forward since TD is the best PF of all-time. Edge at SG to you guys.
PG: Magic Johnson, Jerry West
SG: Kobe Bryant, Michael Cooper, Byron Scott
SF: Elgin Baylor, James Worthy
PF: Pau Gasol, Robert Horry
C: Shaquille O'Neal, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Wilt Chamberlain

Originally posted by dobophile:
No Larry Nance?

Maybe Nance over Chambers

We've had plenty of good power fowards (McDyess, Gugliotta also), just no one steady at center... it's pretty sad when Robin Lopez has the potential to be the best center we've ever had.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
PG: Magic Johnson, Jerry West
SG: Kobe Bryant, Michael Cooper, Byron Scott
SF: Elgin Baylor, James Worthy
PF: Pau Gasol, Robert Horry
C: Shaquille O'Neal, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Wilt Chamberlain


Yeah, but where are the rings?

Oh, wait...
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All-Time Warriors team would be surprisingly competitive with Nate Thurmond, Wilt, Rick Barry.
Originally posted by crzy:
All-Time Warriors team would be surprisingly competitive with Nate Thurmond, Wilt, Rick Barry.

And TMC + Spree
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Originally posted by TheSixthRing:
Originally posted by crzy:
All-Time Warriors team would be surprisingly competitive with Nate Thurmond, Wilt, Rick Barry.

And TMC + Spree

And don't forget Adonal

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