The Official Miami Heat Bandwagon Thread

Originally posted by valrod33:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wAxdgZMk1D4

lulz

Originally posted by monsterzero789:

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
How many years did Lebron take the garbage Cavs on his back and take them to the playoffs?

When he got to a series that counted what did he do there?

nothing

Can you really blame him? He was a one man show who consistently won 50-60 games with guys like Anderson Varajao and Mo williams on his coattails

Mo williams is better than chalmers and miller.

trade Lebron?! REALLY!!??! he is the reason the Heat made it to the finals without him,the heat are a 4 seed at best. he had a bad series.btw wasnt he shut out against dallas in the first half when he played them in the regular season? i know regular season doesnt mean anything in the nba but just sayin. He carried the Heat against Boston and Chicago,then he just stoped playing aggressive and became wayyy too passive. He will come back next year with a better mindset and help Miami win their 2nd championship....that is if there even is a season

Originally posted by AJ_Larrea954:
trade Lebron?! REALLY!!??! he is the reason the Heat made it to the finals without him,the heat are a 4 seed at best. he had a bad series.btw wasnt he shut out against dallas in the first half when he played them in the regular season? i know regular season doesnt mean anything in the nba but just sayin. He carried the Heat against Boston and Chicago,then he just stoped playing aggressive and became wayyy too passive. He will come back next year with a better mindset and help Miami win their 2nd championship....that is if there even is a season

It's not just "trade LeBron", it's "trade LeBron for Dwight Howard". And yes, I do that trade 10 times outta 10 if I'm Pat Riley.

Not that it has a chance of happening, but people are kidding themselves if they don't think a Wade/Howard/Bosh combo is more effective on the court than a Wade/LeBron/Bosh combo.

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by AJ_Larrea954:
trade Lebron?! REALLY!!??! he is the reason the Heat made it to the finals without him,the heat are a 4 seed at best. he had a bad series.btw wasnt he shut out against dallas in the first half when he played them in the regular season? i know regular season doesnt mean anything in the nba but just sayin. He carried the Heat against Boston and Chicago,then he just stoped playing aggressive and became wayyy too passive. He will come back next year with a better mindset and help Miami win their 2nd championship....that is if there even is a season

It's not just "trade LeBron", it's "trade LeBron for Dwight Howard". And yes, I do that trade 10 times outta 10 if I'm Pat Riley.

Not that it has a chance of happening, but people are kidding themselves if they don't think a Wade/Howard/Bosh combo is more effective on the court than a Wade/LeBron/Bosh combo.

Again without lebron heat get eliminated in the 2nd round at best. Dwight is good player and fills in a need at center but can u honestly say he's up there with lebron? Riles already said he won't trade anyone in the big 3 but if anything they would trade bosh ,a draft pick(s), and few scrubs for dwight. No way they touch lebron that would be as retarded as the falcons trading brett favre

Originally posted by AJ_Larrea954:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by AJ_Larrea954:
trade Lebron?! REALLY!!??! he is the reason the Heat made it to the finals without him,the heat are a 4 seed at best. he had a bad series.btw wasnt he shut out against dallas in the first half when he played them in the regular season? i know regular season doesnt mean anything in the nba but just sayin. He carried the Heat against Boston and Chicago,then he just stoped playing aggressive and became wayyy too passive. He will come back next year with a better mindset and help Miami win their 2nd championship....that is if there even is a season

It's not just "trade LeBron", it's "trade LeBron for Dwight Howard". And yes, I do that trade 10 times outta 10 if I'm Pat Riley.

Not that it has a chance of happening, but people are kidding themselves if they don't think a Wade/Howard/Bosh combo is more effective on the court than a Wade/LeBron/Bosh combo.

Again without lebron heat get eliminated in the 2nd round at best. Dwight is good player and fills in a need at center but can u honestly say he's up there with lebron? Riles already said he won't trade anyone in the big 3 but if anything they would trade bosh ,a draft pick(s), and few scrubs for dwight. No way they touch lebron that would be as retarded as the falcons trading brett favre

Dwight Howard is a good player? Try, by far, the most dominant center and defensive player in the NBA. You are seriously undervaluing Howard. What we all should have learned from this years finals is that it takes a team to win, not a bunch of guys who dominate the ball. Dwight would make them a much better TEAM, maybe not in talent, but in what teams need to win championships. And there is no way in hell Bosh, scrubs, and a very low pick doesn't get laughed out of the room.

Originally posted by AJ_Larrea954:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by AJ_Larrea954:
trade Lebron?! REALLY!!??! he is the reason the Heat made it to the finals without him,the heat are a 4 seed at best. he had a bad series.btw wasnt he shut out against dallas in the first half when he played them in the regular season? i know regular season doesnt mean anything in the nba but just sayin. He carried the Heat against Boston and Chicago,then he just stoped playing aggressive and became wayyy too passive. He will come back next year with a better mindset and help Miami win their 2nd championship....that is if there even is a season

It's not just "trade LeBron", it's "trade LeBron for Dwight Howard". And yes, I do that trade 10 times outta 10 if I'm Pat Riley.

Not that it has a chance of happening, but people are kidding themselves if they don't think a Wade/Howard/Bosh combo is more effective on the court than a Wade/LeBron/Bosh combo.

Again without lebron heat get eliminated in the 2nd round at best. Dwight is good player and fills in a need at center but can u honestly say he's up there with lebron? Riles already said he won't trade anyone in the big 3 but if anything they would trade bosh ,a draft pick(s), and few scrubs for dwight. No way they touch lebron that would be as retarded as the falcons trading brett favre

Without LeBron at all you lose in the 2nd round, yes. With Dwight Howard instead of LeBron, you're the NBA champs and it's not even all that close. He's the best defender in the league, one of the 2-3 best rebounders, and now he's one of the best post up options.

Howard's absolutely on LeBron's level as a player, and he's a much better fit than LeBron is. Miami already has a player that does the exact same things that LeBron does on a superstar level in Wade. You have no one that does what Howard does.

I'm not saying Riley would, I'm saying he should. I guess we're about to enter our 6th year of the "How long can we overrate LeBron James" experiment.

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by AJ_Larrea954:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by AJ_Larrea954:
trade Lebron?! REALLY!!??! he is the reason the Heat made it to the finals without him,the heat are a 4 seed at best. he had a bad series.btw wasnt he shut out against dallas in the first half when he played them in the regular season? i know regular season doesnt mean anything in the nba but just sayin. He carried the Heat against Boston and Chicago,then he just stoped playing aggressive and became wayyy too passive. He will come back next year with a better mindset and help Miami win their 2nd championship....that is if there even is a season

It's not just "trade LeBron", it's "trade LeBron for Dwight Howard". And yes, I do that trade 10 times outta 10 if I'm Pat Riley.

Not that it has a chance of happening, but people are kidding themselves if they don't think a Wade/Howard/Bosh combo is more effective on the court than a Wade/LeBron/Bosh combo.

Again without lebron heat get eliminated in the 2nd round at best. Dwight is good player and fills in a need at center but can u honestly say he's up there with lebron? Riles already said he won't trade anyone in the big 3 but if anything they would trade bosh ,a draft pick(s), and few scrubs for dwight. No way they touch lebron that would be as retarded as the falcons trading brett favre

Without LeBron at all you lose in the 2nd round, yes. With Dwight Howard instead of LeBron, you're the NBA champs and it's not even all that close. He's the best defender in the league, one of the 2-3 best rebounders, and now he's one of the best post up options.

Howard's absolutely on LeBron's level as a player, and he's a much better fit than LeBron is. Miami already has a player that does the exact same things that LeBron does on a superstar level in Wade. You have no one that does what Howard does.

I'm not saying Riley would, I'm saying he should. I guess we're about to enter our 6th year of the "How long can we overrate LeBron James" experiment.

Keeps Lebron in/near a relatively large market, Florida. Generates instant interest in the Magic. Potentially helps with his image rebuild too. He got humbled in the finals, and humbled again by being traded, people would be back on his side, which is what he craves.

I'd make that deal. Imagine Howard feeding Wade and Bosh outside.

Originally posted by Otter:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by AJ_Larrea954:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by AJ_Larrea954:
trade Lebron?! REALLY!!??! he is the reason the Heat made it to the finals without him,the heat are a 4 seed at best. he had a bad series.btw wasnt he shut out against dallas in the first half when he played them in the regular season? i know regular season doesnt mean anything in the nba but just sayin. He carried the Heat against Boston and Chicago,then he just stoped playing aggressive and became wayyy too passive. He will come back next year with a better mindset and help Miami win their 2nd championship....that is if there even is a season

It's not just "trade LeBron", it's "trade LeBron for Dwight Howard". And yes, I do that trade 10 times outta 10 if I'm Pat Riley.

Not that it has a chance of happening, but people are kidding themselves if they don't think a Wade/Howard/Bosh combo is more effective on the court than a Wade/LeBron/Bosh combo.

Again without lebron heat get eliminated in the 2nd round at best. Dwight is good player and fills in a need at center but can u honestly say he's up there with lebron? Riles already said he won't trade anyone in the big 3 but if anything they would trade bosh ,a draft pick(s), and few scrubs for dwight. No way they touch lebron that would be as retarded as the falcons trading brett favre

Without LeBron at all you lose in the 2nd round, yes. With Dwight Howard instead of LeBron, you're the NBA champs and it's not even all that close. He's the best defender in the league, one of the 2-3 best rebounders, and now he's one of the best post up options.

Howard's absolutely on LeBron's level as a player, and he's a much better fit than LeBron is. Miami already has a player that does the exact same things that LeBron does on a superstar level in Wade. You have no one that does what Howard does.

I'm not saying Riley would, I'm saying he should. I guess we're about to enter our 6th year of the "How long can we overrate LeBron James" experiment.

Keeps Lebron in/near a relatively large market, Florida. Generates instant interest in the Magic. Potentially helps with his image rebuild too. He got humbled in the finals, and humbled again by being traded, people would be back on his side, which is what he craves.I'd make that deal. Imagine Howard feeding Wade and Bosh outside.

I disagree with that. He wants to win more than anything else and being traded to a team with worse talent than he had in Cleveland would infuriate him.

In this scenario he'd go down kicking and screaming and while I know some disagree with this I don't think any organization would make a trade for Lebron unless they have his blessing.

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by AJ_Larrea954:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by AJ_Larrea954:
trade Lebron?! REALLY!!??! he is the reason the Heat made it to the finals without him,the heat are a 4 seed at best. he had a bad series.btw wasnt he shut out against dallas in the first half when he played them in the regular season? i know regular season doesnt mean anything in the nba but just sayin. He carried the Heat against Boston and Chicago,then he just stoped playing aggressive and became wayyy too passive. He will come back next year with a better mindset and help Miami win their 2nd championship....that is if there even is a season

It's not just "trade LeBron", it's "trade LeBron for Dwight Howard". And yes, I do that trade 10 times outta 10 if I'm Pat Riley.

Not that it has a chance of happening, but people are kidding themselves if they don't think a Wade/Howard/Bosh combo is more effective on the court than a Wade/LeBron/Bosh combo.

Again without lebron heat get eliminated in the 2nd round at best. Dwight is good player and fills in a need at center but can u honestly say he's up there with lebron? Riles already said he won't trade anyone in the big 3 but if anything they would trade bosh ,a draft pick(s), and few scrubs for dwight. No way they touch lebron that would be as retarded as the falcons trading brett favre

Without LeBron at all you lose in the 2nd round, yes. With Dwight Howard instead of LeBron, you're the NBA champs and it's not even all that close. He's the best defender in the league, one of the 2-3 best rebounders, and now he's one of the best post up options.

Howard's absolutely on LeBron's level as a player, and he's a much better fit than LeBron is. Miami already has a player that does the exact same things that LeBron does on a superstar level in Wade. You have no one that does what Howard does.

I'm not saying Riley would, I'm saying he should. I guess we're about to enter our 6th year of the "How long can we overrate LeBron James" experiment.

So you agree with me then...

lebron ain't but 26yo and i know he has been in the league eight yrs but he nor dwight have hit their respective primes yet. lebron has more room to improve than dwight. dwight is hands down the best center as lebron is the best small forward. it is very close as to which player is better but if i had to choose one unlike phil jackson i choose lebron. as an owner i choose lebron because he is the lightning rod that generates the most interest thus the most revenue. as good as d12 is he ain't the draw that lebron is. the thing about a wing player of lebron's caliber is that he can take the ball coast to coast and create his own shot or find others one. Also, lebron has effectively guarded all five positions on the court for the heat this season and played offensively all four of the smaller spots. this guy is the most versatile superstar in this league. his max potential isn't even reached yet. now i ain't saying that d12 won't surpass him as a player or hasn't yet cuz i ain't on the nba hardwood but he simply does more things to help a team win than d12. check cle sub twenty win season this yr as opposed to their 60 plus win seasons under lbj. lebron if i am riley is untouchable because the heat training staff is one of the league's finest and they will have lebron mentally physically and technically sound for these upcoming seasons. keep watching and the story will tell itself

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by AJ_Larrea954:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by AJ_Larrea954:
trade Lebron?! REALLY!!??! he is the reason the Heat made it to the finals without him,the heat are a 4 seed at best. he had a bad series.btw wasnt he shut out against dallas in the first half when he played them in the regular season? i know regular season doesnt mean anything in the nba but just sayin. He carried the Heat against Boston and Chicago,then he just stoped playing aggressive and became wayyy too passive. He will come back next year with a better mindset and help Miami win their 2nd championship....that is if there even is a season

It's not just "trade LeBron", it's "trade LeBron for Dwight Howard". And yes, I do that trade 10 times outta 10 if I'm Pat Riley.

Not that it has a chance of happening, but people are kidding themselves if they don't think a Wade/Howard/Bosh combo is more effective on the court than a Wade/LeBron/Bosh combo.

Again without lebron heat get eliminated in the 2nd round at best. Dwight is good player and fills in a need at center but can u honestly say he's up there with lebron? Riles already said he won't trade anyone in the big 3 but if anything they would trade bosh ,a draft pick(s), and few scrubs for dwight. No way they touch lebron that would be as retarded as the falcons trading brett favre

Without LeBron at all you lose in the 2nd round, yes. With Dwight Howard instead of LeBron, you're the NBA champs and it's not even all that close. He's the best defender in the league, one of the 2-3 best rebounders, and now he's one of the best post up options.

Howard's absolutely on LeBron's level as a player, and he's a much better fit than LeBron is. Miami already has a player that does the exact same things that LeBron does on a superstar level in Wade. You have no one that does what Howard does.

I'm not saying Riley would, I'm saying he should. I guess we're about to enter our 6th year of the "How long can we overrate LeBron James" experiment.

d wade has been my fav player for years now but i think he has about 4 more elite years of play left whereas wit lebron's build he has at age 26 about 8 to 9 yrs of elite play left of which we haven't yet seen the ceiling. u keep lebron and players will flock to south beach in free agency to keep u in contention. ud and mike miller went on record as saying lebron is the best in the league hands down. this was revealed over countless practice sessions and just them following him throughout his nba career. u might create a rift in the locker room if riley made that trade. overrated lebron is when considering pippen talk about being the GOAT but underrated he is when u put another player in this league above him to the point of leaving him out of the discussion.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
lebron ain't but 26yo and i know he has been in the league eight yrs but he nor dwight have hit their respective primes yet. lebron has more room to improve than dwight. dwight is hands down the best center as lebron is the best small forward. it is very close as to which player is better but if i had to choose one unlike phil jackson i choose lebron. as an owner i choose lebron because he is the lightning rod that generates the most interest thus the most revenue. as good as d12 is he ain't the draw that lebron is. the thing about a wing player of lebron's caliber is that he can take the ball coast to coast and create his own shot or find others one. Also, lebron has effectively guarded all five positions on the court for the heat this season and played offensively all four of the smaller spots. this guy is the most versatile superstar in this league. his max potential isn't even reached yet. now i ain't saying that d12 won't surpass him as a player or hasn't yet cuz i ain't on the nba hardwood but he simply does more things to help a team win than d12. check cle sub twenty win season this yr as opposed to their 60 plus win seasons under lbj. lebron if i am riley is untouchable because the heat training staff is one of the league's finest and they will have lebron mentally physically and technically sound for these upcoming seasons. keep watching and the story will tell itself

Also, my thing on LBJ is I think he may be the only player in NBA history that could have won 127 games over those last 2 years with Cleveland. I don't think there's anyone else that you could have replaced him with that would have won that many games or won 3 playoff rounds (with a postseason record of 16-9 in '09 and '10) in the 2 years. Not to say he's better than Michael, but I don't think even with Michael that squad wins 127. He only topped 66 wins twice and those were both with FAAAAAR more talented squads (plus Phil instead of Mike Brown). Whenever anyone criticizes him, this is really all I need to mention and there's not really a logical rebuttal that anyone can have. In every single one of his years with Cleveland, he took them further than what should have been reasonably expected. That's why the absolute most retarded thing anyone could ever do is criticize him for not winning a ring there. It's like someone spinning straw into gold and then someone else complaining that it's not ENOUGH gold. Completely irrational.

[ Edited by andes14 on Jun 26, 2011 at 00:05:37 ]

Originally posted by andes14:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
lebron ain't but 26yo and i know he has been in the league eight yrs but he nor dwight have hit their respective primes yet. lebron has more room to improve than dwight. dwight is hands down the best center as lebron is the best small forward. it is very close as to which player is better but if i had to choose one unlike phil jackson i choose lebron. as an owner i choose lebron because he is the lightning rod that generates the most interest thus the most revenue. as good as d12 is he ain't the draw that lebron is. the thing about a wing player of lebron's caliber is that he can take the ball coast to coast and create his own shot or find others one. Also, lebron has effectively guarded all five positions on the court for the heat this season and played offensively all four of the smaller spots. this guy is the most versatile superstar in this league. his max potential isn't even reached yet. now i ain't saying that d12 won't surpass him as a player or hasn't yet cuz i ain't on the nba hardwood but he simply does more things to help a team win than d12. check cle sub twenty win season this yr as opposed to their 60 plus win seasons under lbj. lebron if i am riley is untouchable because the heat training staff is one of the league's finest and they will have lebron mentally physically and technically sound for these upcoming seasons. keep watching and the story will tell itself

Also, my thing on LBJ is I think he may be the only player in NBA history that could have won 127 games over those last 2 years with Cleveland. I don't think there's anyone else that you could have replaced him with that would have won that many games or won 3 playoff rounds (with a postseason record of 16-9 in '09 and '10) in the 2 years. Not to say he's better than Michael, but I don't think even with Michael that squad wins 127. He only topped 66 wins twice and those were both with FAAAAAR more talented squads (plus Phil instead of Mike Brown). Whenever anyone criticizes him, this is really all I need to mention and there's not really a logical rebuttal that anyone can have. In every single one of his years with Cleveland, he took them further than what should have been reasonably expected. That's why the absolute most retarded thing anyone could ever do is criticize him for not winning a ring there. It's like someone spinning straw into gold and then someone else complaining that it's not ENOUGH gold. Completely irrational.

so true man i definitely can not think of another player to put in lebron's shoes in cleveland to win much more than forty five games and that would be pushing it

LOL, oh geez.