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The NBA's image problem

  • crzy
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Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Originally posted by pantstickle:
Because you can see their tattoos.

this is probably more true than pantstickle intended it to be.

It's very true and sad

But I don't like the culture of basketball sportsmanship either, so who am I to talk. I think they act like punks, or at least many, not all. (You complained the last time we had this discussion when I said thugs, i associate the two words together.)

That's because you were associating thuggery with lack of sportsmanship. Which is completely not the same thing.

Peyton Manning didn't give a post game handshake in the Super Bowl. That doesn't make him a thug. It makes him a little b***h but not a thug.

[ Edited by crzy on May 2, 2010 at 16:19:43 ]
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by TheGoldStandard:
The NFL has had way more cringe-worthy incidents in recent time than the NBA. But perception of the the league was crafted in most minds a long time ago, and re-conditioning people to think differently is a massive undertaking.

The NFL also has WAYYYYYYYYY more players. The NBA has a much higher % of scumbags.

Baseless statement.

How so?

There is a far greater percentage of criminals in the NFL.
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by TheGoldStandard:
The NFL has had way more cringe-worthy incidents in recent time than the NBA. But perception of the the league was crafted in most minds a long time ago, and re-conditioning people to think differently is a massive undertaking.

The NFL also has WAYYYYYYYYY more players. The NBA has a much higher % of scumbags.

Baseless statement.

How so?

There is a far greater percentage of criminals in the NFL.

LOL, that's funny if you really believe that.
The Basketball culture as a whole is practically a flawed 'thug-life' image.

In fact most of the free-range superstars live like gangsters/rappers, running around in garish clothing/jewelry looking like pimps and convicts. -Not to mention 70% of the superstars/talent you see in the NBA barely attended college (or only attended up to one year for scouting attention), and most of them were scouted off some of the roughest streets in the United States (where they lived like thugs to survive).

Big difference between the NBA and the NFL is that within the past 10 years the NFL has beefed up its range of psychological examinations/mental-health personnel within each organization (with far more strict-PR evaluations/fines & punishments).

The NBA as a whole is a class-less/corrupt origination that's been full of lawsuits due to their own gaming-officials/refs owning stock in certain franchises/fixing games due to individual gambling problems.
Somewhere around 40% of NBA players have criminal records (according to that book). I'd say the # is around 25% or lower for the NFL.
Nobody is watching or paying attention anymore so nobody notices that they're cleaning up their act.Also, having 2 stars complain about not getting calls then having another call out his team-mates who have more rings than he does wasn't good publicity.

It's a combination of the "me first" mentality and the ridiculously biased/horrible officiating that has turned me off.
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Originally posted by Leathaface:
Somewhere around 40% of NBA players have criminal records (according to that book). I'd say the # is around 25% or lower for the NFL.

That's a bunch of bulls**t statistics made up by a guy with an agenda to demonize the NBA.
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Originally posted by pantstickle:
Because you can see their tattoos.

this is probably more true than pantstickle intended it to be.

It's very true and sad

But I don't like the culture of basketball sportsmanship either, so who am I to talk. I think they act like punks, or at least many, not all. (You complained the last time we had this discussion when I said thugs, i associate the two words together.)

That's because you were associating thuggery with lack of sportsmanship. Which is completely not the same thing.

Peyton Manning didn't give a post game handshake in the Super Bowl. That doesn't make him a thug. It makes him a little b***h but not a thug.

How is Peyton Manning a little b***h for not shaking hands and Lebron James is not? You defened James sometime last week in a thread on how people nit-pick at him for whatever reason and listed "not shaking the Magic's hand" as one of them.

Dude, it's the same thing.
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Somewhere around 40% of NBA players have criminal records (according to that book). I'd say the # is around 25% or lower for the NFL.

That's a bunch of bulls**t statistics made up by a guy with an agenda to demonize the NBA.

Maybe so, but it's ridiculous to think that the NBA has a lower % of criminals than the NFL.
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Originally posted by Fincham11:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Originally posted by pantstickle:
Because you can see their tattoos.

this is probably more true than pantstickle intended it to be.

It's very true and sad

But I don't like the culture of basketball sportsmanship either, so who am I to talk. I think they act like punks, or at least many, not all. (You complained the last time we had this discussion when I said thugs, i associate the two words together.)

That's because you were associating thuggery with lack of sportsmanship. Which is completely not the same thing.

Peyton Manning didn't give a post game handshake in the Super Bowl. That doesn't make him a thug. It makes him a little b***h but not a thug.

How is Peyton Manning a little b***h for not shaking hands and Lebron James is not? You defened James sometime last week in a thread on how people nit-pick at him for whatever reason and listed "not shaking the Magic's hand" as one of them.

Dude, it's the same thing.

That's not the point I was trying to make.

I'm just saying that a lack of sportsmanship doesn't make someone a thug.
Also, don't remember the last time an NFL player brought a gun to the Stadium then threatened a team-mate with it (over a card-game nonetheless).
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Somewhere around 40% of NBA players have criminal records (according to that book). I'd say the # is around 25% or lower for the NFL.

That's a bunch of bulls**t statistics made up by a guy with an agenda to demonize the NBA.

Maybe so, but it's ridiculous to think that the NBA has a lower % of criminals than the NFL.

How so?
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lol at the NBA having more criminals.
The difference in the amount of players in the different sports is something not to be ignored, IMO. There are more players on one NFL team than 4 1/2 NBA teams.
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Originally posted by foreign49er:
Also, don't remember the last time an NFL player brought a gun to the Stadium then threatened a team-mate with it (over a card-game nonetheless).

The NBA player in question never threatenend his teammate with his gun. Like I said, the NBA has an obvious image problem when people like you believe lies like that.

Arenas brought his unloaded gun into the locker room in a non threatening manner.

Baseball player Luke Scott brought guns into the Clubhouse and bragged about it.

Quote:
I've carried them in the locker room, and nobody really knows about it," he told the Baltimore Sun. "I know how to handle myself, and I stow it away where nobody really knows about it.

Plaxico Burress shot himself with a gun. Brandon Jacobs bragged about murdering anyone who came into his house with a gun.