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2009 Golden State Warriors Off-Season Thread

I rarely ever figure out why teams ever engage in S+T deals in the NBA, but REALGM article saying Toronto looking to S+T Marion.

Who would want to trade for Marion when they (some teams) could sign him outright?

I was thinking, Marion won't command anything near what he's making now (or shouldn't)

Maybe we can work something with Bad Porn to Toronto for Marion?

Corey Maggette + Brandan Wright for Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks? I'm just thinking aloud. I'd rather have Marion at $9-$10m for the next few years than Regrette.
I really don't think that Bad Porn has any value outside of California. It's highly likely that he'll be back in camp in the fall, fellas. We might as well own up to it now.
Originally posted by phiLthyphiL:
I rarely ever figure out why teams ever engage in S+T deals in the NBA, but REALGM article saying Toronto looking to S+T Marion.

Who would want to trade for Marion when they (some teams) could sign him outright?

I was thinking, Marion won't command anything near what he's making now (or shouldn't)

Maybe we can work something with Bad Porn to Toronto for Marion?

Corey Maggette + Brandan Wright for Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks? I'm just thinking aloud. I'd rather have Marion at $9-$10m for the next few years than Regrette.

Sign and trades are usually done out of necessity...

Player= Wants a big contract, but there are only a couple of teams with cap room.

Team that trades for him= Wants the player, but doesn't have the cap room to sign him unless he's an MLE type of player.

Team that trades him= Wants to get something in return for the player instead of losing him for nothing.
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What was the last big sign and trade blockbuster....Joe Johnson to Atlanta?


edit: Rashard Lewis to the Magic.
[ Edited by crzy on Apr 20, 2009 at 3:28 PM ]
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by Conejo:
Crawford - PG
Watson - PG
Ellis - SG
Marco - SG
Morrow - SG
Jackson - SF
Maggs - SF
Bazooka - SF
Wright - PF
Randolph - PF
Biedrins - C
Turiaf - C
Davidson - PF
Kurz - PF

Looking at those 14, Imma make them 12 by taking Kurz and Davidson out. I still like this team very much if we can have a healthy roster for most of the season. IF Randolph can continue to play next season the way he closed this season, he could eliminate our void at that PF position, which after PG is our biggest need.

In order for us to get better, either Crawford or Maggs gotta go. Ideally I'd like them both gone, but that's not a realistic possibility. It seems like JC is the one who'll probably be out, and if I had to choose one I'd choose him gone over Maggs. As selfish as the b*****d is, his 18-20ppg off the bench can't hurt that bad, can they?

Obviously, our only pick in the draft should be a PG, I'm hoping for Evans, but either way (unless the rook lights it out in camp and preseason) I'd like to see this lineup:

PG - Marco
SG - Monta
SF - Jax
PF - Randolph
C - Biedrins

Simply because I think Marco can play the point and can match-up with the bigger guards on the defensive end, easing Monta off those match-ups. Ellis still gotta show that he can play good enough D on a PG though I love the 4&5 combo on this lineup because Randolph compliments Beans on the defensive end, not that Beans is all of that, but I've seen 2 or straight years of him being the only presence in the middle, and therefore he looks worse than he actually is: he's not that bad.

My immediate backups would be:

PG - Rook
SG - Morrow
SF - Maggs/Bazooka (*)
PF - Wright
C - Turiaf

I'm not talking about playing these 5 at the same time (maybe a little? ) but I'd be confident on offense with any of them on the floor for this team. The liability here becomes perimeter D Hopefully the Rook and Morrow can show some defensive skills. I won't even try putting hope on either of the SF's I've listed. BTW, there's an * for a reason. Either one of them has got to go this offseason. We cannot afford to have 2 similar kinds of players as backups at the SF spot when either one of them could be starting in alot of teams. Because I expect JC to be moved and Maggs to stay, I say we trade Bazooka, matter of fact: we should package him and JC together and get something semi-good in return, say, a banger to plug into the rotation at the 4&5 spots, and a 2nd rounder in this year's draft

What about CJ? I'm sorry but unless he shows me he can play D, I don't care for him on this team. Yes he proved me he belongs in the NBA as far as his offensive game goes, but we have plenty of offense already, we won't be missing his 9.5ppg. Honestly I wouldn't mind keeping him if I wasn't so scared of Nelson giving him minutes over our Rook PG, that'd me and the rest of you guys off

So, to recap

PG: Marco / 1st-pick
SG: Monta / Morrow
SF: Jax / Maggs or Bazooka (*)
PF: Randolph / Wright / 2nd-pick
C: Biedrins / Turiaf / 2nd-pick

(*) - either one must be traded, preferably in a package deal along with Crawford

If Marco doesn't pan out at PG, hopefully our Rook can step into the starting lineup and give us decent numbers AND defense.

This is my outlook for next season, as of right now



Very realistic. Except for the part about Marco Belinelli playing point guard.

is it like a total impossible idea????

I'm sorta convinced that he can play the point
It's official. Rubio's in the draft.

Brandan Wright, Marco Belinelli and #7 for #2. Do it.
Anybody see Rick Barry on Comcast Sports tonight?

He hit the nail on the head. He said he can't figure out what were doing out here with no defense and these ridiculous offensive teams. He said we'll never win a championship and maybe get into the playoffs as low seeds.

Hes right. Its ridiculous, our team is so screwed up right now, I dont know how we even messed it up this bad, our last off-season was just dreadful. Crawford? Maggette?
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Originally posted by phiLthyphiL:
It's official. Rubio's in the draft.

Brandan Wright, Marco Belinelli and #7 for #2. Do it.

You never know with some of the gms out there.
Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Anybody see Rick Barry on Comcast Sports tonight?

He hit the nail on the head. He said he can't figure out what were doing out here with no defense and these ridiculous offensive teams. He said we'll never win a championship and maybe get into the playoffs as low seeds.

Hes right. Its ridiculous, our team is so screwed up right now, I dont know how we even messed it up this bad, our last off-season was just dreadful. Crawford? Maggette?

The same Rick Barry that said Lebron has major flaws in his game lol. He lost most of his credibility with that comment.

The Warriors defensive fix begins with getting rid of Nellie.
Originally posted by Hopper:
Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Anybody see Rick Barry on Comcast Sports tonight?

He hit the nail on the head. He said he can't figure out what were doing out here with no defense and these ridiculous offensive teams. He said we'll never win a championship and maybe get into the playoffs as low seeds.

Hes right. Its ridiculous, our team is so screwed up right now, I dont know how we even messed it up this bad, our last off-season was just dreadful. Crawford? Maggette?

The same Rick Barry that said Lebron has major flaws in his game lol. He lost most of his credibility with that comment.

The Warriors defensive fix begins with getting rid of Nellie.

Are you kidding Rick Barry was a MUCH better shooter than Lebron, when rick tells you to put your elbow in, you put your elbow in...
Rick Barry can't tell Lebron anything. Lebron is only 24 and he's already a hall of fame talent.
Originally posted by Hopper:
Rick Barry can't tell Lebron anything. Lebron is only 24 and he's already a hall of fame talent.

youre right, thats a great justification

what a stupid ass comment. when someone is better than you at something, you listen. thats how you get better.
Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Originally posted by Hopper:
Rick Barry can't tell Lebron anything. Lebron is only 24 and he's already a hall of fame talent.

youre right, thats a great justification

what a stupid ass comment. when someone is better than you at something, you listen. thats how you get better.

are you ignorant? Everything Rick Barry did was 30 years ago. The league, the Rules and the competition has completely changed since then.

Telling Lebron to change his shot is stupid. He's already a top 2 player in the league and he's led the Cavs to the best record in the NBA.
Originally posted by Hopper:
Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Originally posted by Hopper:
Rick Barry can't tell Lebron anything. Lebron is only 24 and he's already a hall of fame talent.

youre right, thats a great justification

what a stupid ass comment. when someone is better than you at something, you listen. thats how you get better.

are you ignorant? Everything Rick Barry did was 30 years ago. The league, the Rules and the competition has completely changed since then.

Telling Lebron to change his shot is stupid. He's already a top 2 player in the league and he's led the Cavs to the best record in the NBA.

Did you even watch the segment?

He said Lebron would be a more consistent shooter if he kept his elbow in when he had bad shooting games.

I will trust his analysis over yours any day.

And I did not attack you, I said your comment was foolish, I would appreciate it if you did the same.
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