**Official 2009 NBA Draft Thread** (ON RIGHT NOW) | Page 13

crzy · 2009-01-14T20:53:46-08:00

NBA DRAFT June 25, 2009. 7 p.m. ET 2009 Draft: POST-Combine Top 50 Big Board (updated June 23) 1) Blake Griffin, PF/C, Oklahoma, Sophomore 2) Ricky Rubio, PG, DKV Joventut, Spain 3) Hasheem Thabeet, C, UConn, Junior 4) Tyreke Evans, PG/SG, Memphis, Freshman 5) Jonny Flynn, PG, Syracuse, Sophomore 6) Brandon Jennings, PG, Lottomatica Roma, Italy 7) Jrue Holiday, PG/SG, UCLA, Freshman 8) Demar DeRozan, SF, USC, Freshman 9) James Harden, SG, Arizona St., Sophomore 10) Jordan Hill, PF, Arizona, Junior 11) Earl Clark, SF, Louisville, Junior 12) Jeff Teague, PG/SG, Wake Forest, Sophomore 13) Terrence Williams, SG/SF, Louisville, Senior 14) DeJuan Blair, PF/C, Pittsburgh, Sophomore 15) Gerald Henderson, SG, Duke, Junior 16) Ty Lawson, PG, UNC, Junior 17) Eric Maynor, PG, VCU, Senior 18) Patrick Mills, PG, St.Mary's, Sophomore 19) Stephen Curry, PG/SG, Junior, Davidson 20) James Johnson, SF/PF, Wake Forest, Sophomore 21) Rodrique Beaubois, PG, Cholet, France 22) Austin Daye, PF, Gonzaga, Sophomore 23) Chase Budinger, SF, Arizona, Junior 24) BJ Mullens, C, Ohio State, Freshman 25) Sam Young, SF, Pittsburgh, Senior 26) Tyler Hansbrough, PF, UNC, Senior 27) Wayne Ellington, SG, UNC, Junior 28) Marcus Thornton, SG, LSU, Senior 29) Darren Collison, PG, UCLA, Senior 30) Jermaine Taylor, SG, Central Florida, Senior 31) Dionte Christmas, SG, Temple, Senior 32) Jodie Meeks, SG, Kentucky, Junior 33) DaJuan Summers, SF/PF, Georgetown, Junior 34) Victor Claver, PF, Pamesa Valencia, Spain 35) Omri Casspi, SF, Maccabi Tel Aviv, Israel 36) Taj Gibson, PF, USC, Junior 37) Toney Douglas, PG, Florida St., Senior 38) Nick Calathes, PG/SG, Florida, Sophomore 39) Jerel McNeal, SG, Marquette, Senior 40) Jeff Pendergraph, PF, Arizona St., Senior 41) Josh Heytvelt, PF, Gonzaga, Senior 42) Danny Green, SF, UNC, Senior 43) DeMarre Carroll, SF/PF, Missouri, Senior 44) Derrick Brown, PF, Xavier, Junior 45) Sergio Llull, PG/SG, Real Madrid, Spain 46) Jack McClinton, PG/SG, Miami, Senior 47) Nando Del Colo, PG/SG, Cholet, France 48) AJ Price, PG, UConn, Senior 49) Jonas Jerebko, SF, Angelico Biella, Sweeden 50) Dante Cunningham, PF, Villanova, Senior ***POSITIONAL RANKINGS***2009 Point Guards 1) Ricky Rubio, PG, DKV Joventut, Spain 2) Jonny Flynn, PG, Syracuse, Sophomore 2) Brandon Jennings, PG, Lottomatica Roma, Italy 4) Ty Lawson, PG, UNC, Junior 5) Patrick Mills, PG, St.Mary's, Sophomore 6) Eric Maynor, PG, VCU, Senior 7) Rodrique Beaubois, PG, Cholet, France 8) Darren Collison, PG, UCLA, Senior 9) Toney Douglas, PG, Florida St., Senior 10) AJ Price, PG, UConn, Senior --------------------------------------------------------- 11) Curtis Jerrells, PG, Baylor, Senior 12) Milos Teodosic, PG, Olympiakos, Serbia 13) Tyrese Rice, PG, Boston College, Senior 14) Jeremy Pargo, PG, Gonzaga, Senior 15) AJ Abrams, PG, Texas, Senior 2009 Combo (PG/SG) Guards 1) Tyreke Evans, PG/SG, Memphis, Freshman 2) Jrue Holiday, PG/SG, UCLA, Freshman 3) Jeff Teague, PG/SG, Wake Forest, Sophomore 4) Stephen Curry, PG/SG, Junior, Davidson 5) Nick Calathes, PG/SG, Florida, Sophomore 6) Sergio Llull, PG/SG, Real Madrid, Spain 7) Jack McClinton, PG/SG, Miami, Senior 8) Nando Del Colo, PG/SG, Cholet, France 9) Lester Hudson, PG/SG, Tenn. Martin, Senior --------------------------------------------------------- 10) Milenko Tepic, PG/SG, KK Partizan Belgrade, Serbia 2009 Shooting Guards 1) James Harden, SG, Arizona St., Sophomore 2) Gerald Henderson, SG, Duke, Junior 3) Wayne Ellington, SG, UNC, Junior 4) Marcus Thornton, SG, LSU, Senior 5) Jermaine Taylor, SG, Central Florida, Senior 6) Dionte Christmas, SG, Temple, Senior 7) Jodie Meeks, SG, Kentucky, Junior 8) Jerel McNeal, SG, Marquette, Senior --------------------------------------------------------- 9) Wesley Matthews, SG, Marquette, Senior 2009 Small Forwards 1) Demar DeRozan, SF, USC, Freshman 2) Earl Clark, SF, Louisville, Junior 3) Terrence Williams, SG/SF, Louisville, Senior 4) James Johnson, SF/PF, Wake Forest, Sophomore 5) Chase Budinger, SF, Arizona, Junior 6) Sam Young, SF, Pittsburgh, Senior 7) DaJuan Summers, SF/PF, Georgetown, Junior 8) Omri Casspi, SF, Maccabi Tel Aviv, Israel 9) Danny Green, SF, UNC, Senior 10) DeMarre Carroll, SF/PF, Missouri, Senior 11) Jonas Jerebko, SF, Angelico Biella, Sweeden 12) Paul Harris, SF, Syracuse, Junior 13) Emir Preldzic, SF, Fenerbahce Ulker, Slovenia 14) Vladimir Dasic, SF/PF, KK Budoncnost Podgorica, Montenegro --------------------------------------------------------- 15) Luigi Datome, SF, Lottomatica Roma, Italy 16) Micah Downs, SG/SF, Gonzaga, Senior 17) Lee Cummard, SF, BYU, Senior 2009 Power Forwards 1) Blake Griffin, PF/C, Oklahoma, Sophomore 2) Jordan Hill, PF, Arizona, Junior 3) DeJuan Blair, PF/C, Pittsburgh, Sophomore 4) Austin Daye, PF, Gonzaga, Sophomore 5) Tyler Hansbrough, PF, UNC, Senior 6) Victor Claver, PF, Pamesa Valencia, Spain 7) Taj Gibson, PF, USC, Junior 8) Jeff Pendergraph, PF, Arizona St., Senior 9) Josh Heytvelt, PF, Gonzaga, Senior 10) Derrick Brown, PF, Xavier, Junior 11) Dante Cunningham, PF, Villanova, Senior 12) Milan Macvan, PF/C, KK Hemofarm, Serbia 13) Alade Aminu, PF, Georgia Tech, Senior 14) Jeff Adrien, PF, UConn, Senior 15) Leo Lyons, PF, Missouri, Senior 16) Henk Norel, PF, DKV Joventut, Netherlands --------------------------------------------------------- 17) Jon Brockman, PF, Washington, Senior 18) Robert Dozier, PF, Memphis, Senior 2009 Centers 1) Hasheem Thabeet, C, UConn, Junior 2) BJ Mullens, C, Ohio State, Freshman 3) Goran Suton, C, Michigan St., Senior --------------------------------------------------------- 4) Slava Kravtsov, C, BC Kyiv, Ukraine 5) Garret Siler, C, Augusta St., Senior 6) Chris Johnson, C, LSU, Senior 7) Luke Nevill, C, Utah, Senior [ Edited by crzy on Jun 25, 2009 at 16:39:34 ]

Apr 27, 2009 at 8:00 AM

#181

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The entire Spain-USA FINALS game in the Olympics is online.

When I get the chance I'll rewatch the whole game to carefully analyze Ricky Rubio.

http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/player/266605.html

Apr 27, 2009 at 8:04 AM

#182

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Originally posted by crzy:

I guess the boy band had to have a token black guy.

Apr 27, 2009 at 9:05 AM

#183

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Originally posted by crzy:
The entire Spain-USA FINALS game in the Olympics is online.

When I get the chance I'll rewatch the whole game to carefully analyze Ricky Rubio.

http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/player/266605.html

Good find!

I'll watch this when I get home tonight before the Laker game, and see how our opinions match up.

And

@ pantstickle. What would a good Spanish Boy Band name be?

Apr 27, 2009 at 9:49 AM

#184

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Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by socalfan21:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by socalfan21:
Dar Tucker is leaving DePaul for the NBA and has hired an Agent...

Unreal I thought he could use some more seasoning before he left for the NBA. I guess not...

Mid-late 2nd round pick.

He should change his name to Der Tucker because he's a bonafide dumbass.

Exactly.. Tucker would have been a top 10 pick in 2 years if he would have stayed at DePaul.

I wouldn't go that far.

I would. If he jus impoves his jumper he would have been something special...

Apr 27, 2009 at 12:55 PM

#185

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Originally posted by socalfan21:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by socalfan21:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by socalfan21:
Dar Tucker is leaving DePaul for the NBA and has hired an Agent...

Unreal I thought he could use some more seasoning before he left for the NBA. I guess not...

Mid-late 2nd round pick.

He should change his name to Der Tucker because he's a bonafide dumbass.

Exactly.. Tucker would have been a top 10 pick in 2 years if he would have stayed at DePaul.

I wouldn't go that far.

I would. If he jus impoves his jumper he would have been something special...

He's already a sophomore and he's barely projected to be a late 2nd round/undrafted FA.

He's not going to magically improve his stock all the way into the top 10.

This isn't the NFL draft. Nobody flies up that high out of nowhere.

Not to mention...6-4 shooting guards without any passing skills aren't picked in the top 10.....unless they're elite, superstar talents like Eric Gordon.

The best that Dar Tucker could have done to improve his stock if he stayed in school is to make it into the bottom of the first round.

Apr 27, 2009 at 1:07 PM

#186

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Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by crzy:
The entire Spain-USA FINALS game in the Olympics is online.

When I get the chance I'll rewatch the whole game to carefully analyze Ricky Rubio.

http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/player/266605.html

Good find!

I'll watch this when I get home tonight before the Laker game, and see how our opinions match up.

And @ pantstickle. What would a good Spanish Boy Band name be?

Los Backdoor Boys

Apr 30, 2009 at 6:31 AM

#187

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http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/basketball/la-sp-usc-sidney29-2009apr29,0,6331872.story

Renardo Sidney verbally commited to USC, but backed out and is now going to Mississip State to play with 2010 first rounder...Jarvis Varnado.

Sucks for USC.

Sidney is 16th on Rivals, and 9th on Scout for 2009 high school basketball players.

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?sport=2&pr_key=41967

Apr 30, 2009 at 7:06 AM

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Somebody needs to get that kid to the gym. He's gonna cost himself a lot of money if he enters the NBA looking like that.

Apr 30, 2009 at 8:28 AM

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Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Somebody needs to get that kid to the gym. He's gonna cost himself a lot of money if he enters the NBA looking like that.

Yup. His stock is already falling. Not only for his "baby fat" but also for his lack of effort.

He went from 10th best on Rivals.com for 2009 High Schoolers to 16, and from #5 best on Scout.com to 9th.

This is what he used to look like two years ago as a high school sophomore....he led Artesia to a state title and then went to Fairfax.

He's still a mammoth with a lot of talent, but if he heads down this path, he'll be another Eddy Curry.

[ Edited by crzy on Apr 30, 2009 at 8:42 AM ]

Apr 30, 2009 at 8:38 AM

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You're making me realize how uneducated I've become about the preps/college. I used to know all these dudes as soon as they hit the radar, and this guy plays in my back yard and I've never heard of him.

This is probably the least I've known about a draft since '91.

Apr 30, 2009 at 8:40 AM

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Wow.

Jarvis Varnado is considering entering the NBA draft. I thought he would stay for sure. Best shotblocker in the nation (including Hasheem Thabeet).

I have a hardon for shotblockers. I was obsessed with Sean Williams in the 2007 Draft.

Even though Vanardo is only 6-9. Basically he's Josh Smith without the insane athleticism.

Late first round pick.

[ Edited by crzy on Apr 30, 2009 at 8:43 AM ]

Apr 30, 2009 at 8:51 AM

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Assuming the Lakers traded up into the 20-22 range, Pete, who would you want them to draft?

Apr 30, 2009 at 9:12 AM

#193

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Originally posted by crzy:
Assuming the Lakers traded up into the 20-22 range, Pete, who would you want them to draft?

My #1 choice would be Jrue Holiday, simply because I've seen him in the high teens/low twenties in a couple of mocks and he has no business being that low, especially in a so-so draft. He needs a little more time to "cook", but would be able to get a year of experience in behind Fisher & Shannon Brown. Has the potential to be a very good defender in the pros, and his deficiencies (not really a true PG, not great at getting his own shot) are minimized by the triangle and guys on the Lakers that create open looks for role players. He has the long term potential to be one of the top 5 players in this draft, but he's definitely not a sure thing.

My #2 choice would be Stephen Curry, if he were to fall for some reason. I think he could contribute right away, and his questionable PG skills wouldn't be much of an issue in the triangle. He's not a notable defender (neither is Fisher), but the Laker offense would be devastating with Kobe, Gasol, & Co. creating open looks for Curry.

My #3 choice is Gani Lawal, simply because I think he's the most talented player that will likely be available at that point...but somebody ALWAYS drops inexplicably, so who knows. If it's not Holiday or Curry, I'd want BPA.

Apr 30, 2009 at 9:38 AM

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I don't think any of those three players will be there at 20 after workouts.

I think Holiday shoots up back to the top 10, Curry is in the 10-15 range, and Lawal goes between 10-20 somewhere.

Lawal is top 8 talent, but came out too early

Apr 30, 2009 at 9:56 AM

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You're probably right. If Teague's there he'd be on that list as well. When I have a little more time I'll do a Top 30 board or something, although that would diverge slightly from what I'd want as a Laker fan.

Does Austin Daye fit the "likely to be available" description there?

If he does, he'd probably be #4. Teague's projecting in the high teens as well, and I'd love to have him.