Originally posted by jacklegniner:
Originally posted by andes14:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by andes14:
Great accomplishment, but still one of the most overrated athletes ever.
im not a yankee fan but hes one of ten guys ( i think) that has that accomplishment he may be one of the best SS to play the game
He's done some very impressive things...that being said, no way he deserves to have made over $200M in his career (and likely north of $250M when it's all said and done). In baseball, stats tell the whole story. You can essentially rank and judge players never having watched any of them, just based sheerly on stats (with the exception of maybe ability in the field). The best mainstream one, in my opinion, is slugging % (total bases per at-bat). His career slugging is .449- very mediocre. There are 62 guys that have slugging %'s higher than that this year, just for some perspective. He also has had only one season with a slugging % above .485. There are 40 guys right now that are over that mark. Considering the fact that pitchers are dominating today WAAAAAY more than 5, 10, 15 years ago (the Braves led the majors in ERA in 2000 at 4.05...right now those same Braves are over a full run lower and that 4.05 mark would rank 20th today), that's pretty surprising.
Andes???? Really! First i will admit that i'm a yankee fan so i am biased but he is the 4th fastest player to get 3000 hits. there's only 28 people in history on that list. until last year he played at a high level in all of those years batting 300. I already posted the stat about the double didgit seasons with homers and doubles. The 3000 hit club has very few short-stops if any and that has to be the hardest position to play in the field. Think about how many great yankees there have been and none of them have ever done something like this. Even guys like boggs and gwynn and ripken were fantastic but they were limping up to the plate in crutches trying to get 3000 before they retired...
Just glad for Jeter because he takes so much flack but nobody would have ever thought he would have done it like this...
how does this situation not qualify for "limping to the plate on crutches to get 3000"? Jeter is clearly not the player he once was. its not like hes reaching 3000 early and will blow right past it. his defense has deteriorated. his range is gone. any other team wouldve moved him to another position, but the Yankees are too afraid to tell him he isnt a SS anymore. the fact that he won a GG last year, and made the all-star team this year is a joke.
Jeter had an incredible career, and 3000 hits is a big accomplishment, but without his legendary postseasons, i think his career is alot less on par with the other Yankee legends. if he spent his career on a losing team who never made the playoffs, he isnt being compared with Ruth, Gehrig, Mantle, DiMaggio, etc.
The Yankee bias makes him one of the most overrated players ever. and its nothing against Jeter. hes been a HOF caliber SS. the fans just treat him like hes the best SS to ever play.