switch to a 4-3

Jan 8, 2013 at 9:34 PM

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Its a good chances Marshawn Lynch rushes.the seahawks past the Falcons. Considering we beat the packers which im not considering anything else were gonna have a tiebreaker for the superbowl spot. Washington had alot of luck witha beefed up 4 man front. I wonder if its possible for us to switch mcdonald and sopo to the one tec and play rjf at 5 tec. Effectively that would be a four man front and would make our rush defense much stronger.

USE THIS THREAD TO DISCUSS THIS IDEA THAT COMES UP EVERY YEAR.

[ Edited by Rubberneck36 on Jan 1, 2015 at 5:43 AM ]

Jan 8, 2013 at 9:35 PM

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All games in which Seattle games were close or a loss came against teams who used 4-3 scheme.

Jan 8, 2013 at 9:38 PM

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Originally posted by 49rz4Life:
All games in which Seattle games were close or a loss came against teams who used 4-3 scheme.

We're the only ones to beat them with a 3-4 scheme YES!

Jan 8, 2013 at 9:43 PM

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Originally posted by JerryRice1848:

Originally posted by 49rz4Life:
All games in which Seattle games were close or a loss came against teams who used 4-3 scheme.

We're the only ones to beat them with a 3-4 scheme YES!

Immortals..........we put their name to the test.

Jan 8, 2013 at 9:44 PM

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Jan 8, 2013 at 9:50 PM

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seachickens will b playing their last game this weekend

Jan 8, 2013 at 9:54 PM

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Originally posted by fly15:
seachickens will b playing their last game this weekend

THIS.

Jan 8, 2013 at 10:08 PM

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Mar 14, 2013 at 2:11 AM

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Mike Sando has an interesting read on the defensive scheme implications of Dorsey's signing:

Again, I don't think the 49ers are suddenly going to unveil a 4-3 base defense. But they do have flexibility with their personnel. They could be headed in that direction. As Matt Williamson of Scouts Inc. noted when I reached out to him Wednesday, Smith was a 4-3 defensive end coming out of college. Ray McDonald was seen as an up-the-field lineman. The fact that Smith and McDonald have flourished in a 3-4 reflects well on them and on defensive line coach Jim Tomsula. There's precedent for Dorsey to make a transition, too.

On the other hand, Dorsey appears ideally suited for a 4-3 defense. That was the word on him as the fifth pick of the 2008 draft and that remained the word on him heading into free agency. And the 49ers do have the personnel to become more of a 4-3 team on defense should they choose to head in that direction.

"I could see McDonald as a three-technique type and maybe Dorsey as one-technique," Williamson said. "Ahmad Brooks could project as a 'SAM' linebacker pretty easily and Bowman would be great as the 'WILL'. Justin Smith could be a strong-side end, Aldon Smith could play the weak side. They do have the personnel."

We ran a 4-3, in our nickel and a 4-2 in our dime packages on 70% of our D snaps last year.

Sando also mentions that the Pats, one of the original 3-4 teams moved to a hybrid with more 4-3 fronts partially because of personnel, and partially because the 3-4 has become so popular, that it is now easier and cheaper to get 4-3 players in the draft. Its a good read:

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/74001/glenn-dorsey-and-3-4-questions-for-49ers

Mar 14, 2013 at 5:06 AM

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Sure if we can get more depth and players stay healthy

Mar 14, 2013 at 7:21 AM

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I wouldnt mind some 4-3 splashed in with our other defensive packages ...but we are a 3-4 team .....we will have a versatile rotation of defensive lineman for nickel and dime packages ....but if we land woodson , our pass coverage in our base defense gets better the second Woody hits the field

Mar 14, 2013 at 7:35 AM

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Originally posted by NeeJ49er:
I wouldnt mind some 4-3 splashed in with our other defensive packages ...but we are a 3-4 team .....we will have a versatile rotation of defensive lineman for nickel and dime packages ....but if we land woodson , our pass coverage in our base defense gets better the second Woody hits the field

Meh Woodson is ooold and not the player most here on the zone are making him out to be. Our pass D will improve marginally while our run D suffers significantly should we sign him.

Mar 14, 2013 at 7:37 AM

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With teams passing so much you pretty much have no choice but to go to a 4 man front to bring in an extra DB.

Mar 14, 2013 at 8:29 AM

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We have the personnel to do it, and offenses are too good to only have one scheme nowadays. The one worry is if the team tried to get too fancy and outhink themselves leading to allot of mistakes.

[ Edited by 5280High on Mar 14, 2013 at 8:46 AM ]

Mar 14, 2013 at 8:48 AM

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Originally posted by lamontb:
With teams passing so much you pretty much have no choice but to go to a 4 man front to bring in an extra DB.

Technically, we are (from a personnel standpoint) a 2-4-5 on passing downs. We could go to a 3-3-5 to defend more against the run while including the extra DB. it would probably go: Cowboy-Dorsey-RayMac/Pat,Bow,A.Smith or Brooks.

A four man front is not necessarily a 4-3. A 4-3 indicates 4 lineman and 3 LBs. Our alignment on passing downs is a 4-2-5, generally (but the ends are actually our OLBs).