Originally posted by OldJoe:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
I admit I was wrong man. I didn't think we would make out this well. Glad I am wrong for once.
Revis is possible now. Possibly pick 31 and 61 would do it. I wouldn't do a 16M a yr deal, if he is willing to front load it for 2013, and then maybe in 2015, but also friendly cap wise, to make it so we can safe guard in case of decline, I am all for it.
Your not the only one "manning up". I have seen multiple people I highly respect their opinion, admitting that thought we would get less. And those who guessed right..... crowing about it. Uneducated lucky guesses are worthless. In every case I have seen, it has been one with lots of zeal for Alex. Their logic is this: Conventional Wisdom was Alex is worth a third or fourth, "but I really like Alex and think he is worth more so I will say ..... a 2nd".
- That ignores the awful draft for QBs
- That ignores the awful FA QB market
- That ignores the key, which was how the GMs feel about the draft and FAs. How many are willing to bid on Alex? That was the key and none of those who predicted right, discussed this main factor. It would be a tough sell to KC that we would keep Alex. And also a tough sell to convince we would trade to Ariz. Negotiations like this are all about leverage. Two teams would have had to be involved, to get this much and that would be the key to a intelligent prediction. I still find it hard to be thinking that was Oakland. The details of this I will find intriguing.
So I for one am more impressed with those who "were wrong" than those who were right.
I think most thought a 2nd was being too realistic. Especially a high 2nd, 34th pick and a 3rd which can become a 2 in 2014 is unbelievable.
I think for one, I would never do this trade if I am KC, you got Nick Foles available for same price. Great contract, young, knows Reid obviously. Then there is the draft. Lets say Geno Smith is the 1st pick quality come april, and he gets passed over by many teams, ala Aaron Rodgers, and you have Alex, near 30 now, for what 5-7 years at most of good productivity. I would feel for the KC fans. Alex isn't gonna win a championship, not with Peyton Manning in the same division anyway.
I will say Alex will have weapons, especially if Bowe returns. I hope the best for him. I dont have hatred like many do for him. I believe he was a bust for being the top pick and only 1 playoff win in 8 years. And he spent 1 season with an shoulder injury for the entire season. But Alex will have protection, with Luke Joeckel, he should be the top pick, he has it all, pass and run blocking, just all around premier LT. Brandon Albert is a good RT, so they need to retain him. If I am Alex, I sign a long term deal with KC, lower my salary, cause before the deal they have 15M in cap room, so they are gonna eat up 9.75m on Alex. So redo your deal, get a larger signing bonus, I mean he is THE GUY in KC, and help get Albert and Bowe back. Draft a QB in rd 3 or 4, someone to be the backup, with that chance to start in future.
But I wish Alex the best, hope he does well, especially for the conditional 3rd to turn into a 2nd.
On the trade part, having 5 of first 93 picks is great. And to have a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and another 2nd or 3rd in 2014 will help