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Originally posted by cciowa:
to not even allow the best rushing attack in the nfl behind the best run blocking line in the nfl a CHANCE is inexcusable no matter how much spin or protecting roman and Jh people want to do. fine gore was tired and could not run on first down,, put dixon in there and run him at least once, then bring gore back. jesus


The best looking play in that last drive was before they called their second time out. There was space and Kaep appeared to have room. Why didn't they stay in the pistol? On second down run the ball again, the Raven formation is tight and they get a little opening and it's a TD. I'd rather see them take advantage of Kaep's athleticism in that situation. He's the fastest guy on the field.
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by drakan:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by drakan:
not even close to 16-0. Probably 10-6.

Oh come on. Unless devastated by injury which six of these teams are going to beat us?
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Cardinals Cardinals
Rams Rams
Seahawks Seahawks
Falcons Saints
Panthers Bucs
Texans Jaguars
Colts Titans
Packers Redskins

Falcons, Packers, Saints, Texans, Redskins, Seattle

So the Falcons, the Packers and the Texans are all coming into our place and winning? Lol! Very funny. Unless we are rocked by injury we will not lose any of these three.

The ones to watch for are Seahawks away, Saints away and possibly Rams away. Factor in one of the other three because you always blow one game you shouldn't and that is 12-4 with a shot at 13-3.

This team is not going 10-6 without a very good (or bad) reason such as injury.

dude, we're not some massive home field advantage team. maybe in the new digs, but not this one. we've got 12-13 win talent but a couple of bounces here or there make you a 10 win team all of a sudden. its very possible to be a 10 win team w/o massive injuries.
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Originally posted by ninersoul:
Even tho the defense is suspect I do feel the 49ers does have enough talent to go undefeated. Now will they? Not by a longshot.
talent does not mean s**t unless it is used,, case in point, aldon the invisible man smith and why have all pros like bowman and willis if you are not going to use them to rush the quarterback once in a while
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Originally posted by RishikeshA:
The best looking play in that last drive was before they called their second time out. There was space and Kaep appeared to have room. Why didn't they stay in the pistol? On second down run the ball again, the Raven formation is tight and they get a little opening and it's a TD. I'd rather see them take advantage of Kaep's athleticism in that situation. He's the fastest guy on the field.
you do not even allow your playmakers to make plays to win a super bowl,, instead you rely on some throw up non catchable ball and then whine about a hold. i think that ball was headed out of bounds and that is why the crying over the non call is b******t. besides if you would have played to win on the first three plays it never would have come down to that play anyway. playing to lose the f**king super bowl,, that is criminal
Originally posted by cciowa:
talent does not mean s**t unless it is used,, case in point, aldon the invisible man smith and why have all pros like bowman and willis if you are not going to use them to rush the quarterback once in a while

IMO Harbaugh has proven that he knows how to use the talent he has. If u are in the Super Bowl and 2 muffed punts away from it last year I think it shows u know how to use your talent.
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Originally posted by ninersoul:
Originally posted by cciowa:
talent does not mean s**t unless it is used,, case in point, aldon the invisible man smith and why have all pros like bowman and willis if you are not going to use them to rush the quarterback once in a while

IMO Harbaugh has proven that he knows how to use the talent he has. If u are in the Super Bowl and 2 muffed punts away from it last year I think it shows u know how to use your talent.
how do you explain having bowman and willis setting around playing checkers in pass coverage while flacco is having all kinds of time to throw?
how the f**k do you explain having the best running attack in the nfl and the best run blocking line in the nfl and not even giving them a chance to win the game?
I say yes if they start off right and get momentum going. Say 6-0. I think they just need the mindset and a healthy JSmith.
Originally posted by crabman82:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by drakan:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by drakan:
not even close to 16-0. Probably 10-6.

Oh come on. Unless devastated by injury which six of these teams are going to beat us?
HOME AWAY
Cardinals Cardinals
Rams Rams
Seahawks Seahawks
Falcons Saints
Panthers Bucs
Texans Jaguars
Colts Titans
Packers Redskins

Falcons, Packers, Saints, Texans, Redskins, Seattle

So the Falcons, the Packers and the Texans are all coming into our place and winning? Lol! Very funny. Unless we are rocked by injury we will not lose any of these three.

The ones to watch for are Seahawks away, Saints away and possibly Rams away. Factor in one of the other three because you always blow one game you shouldn't and that is 12-4 with a shot at 13-3.

This team is not going 10-6 without a very good (or bad) reason such as injury.

dude, we're not some massive home field advantage team. maybe in the new digs, but not this one. we've got 12-13 win talent but a couple of bounces here or there make you a 10 win team all of a sudden. its very possible to be a 10 win team w/o massive injuries.

Well, if you are going to insist on a negative of two to three games, you have to accept the reverse as well. Which would be 16-0. Which is why I go for 13-3 in the first place. I consider us likely to be the best, deepest team in the NFL but allow for two or three stumbles on the way. But not six, not without major injury.
Some of you may be afflicted with irrational exhuberance. This is the NFL It is a tough league. It takes very little to upset the balance. Here are the problems facing the 49ers:

1. Coaching: Harbaugh and his staff are worlds better than the Nolan and Singletary regimes, but they have had two years to get their stuff together, and they still suffer from too many brain freezes. We saw how H was outcoached by Coughlin in last year's NFCC game. This year, Steve Young, in his recent KNBR interview, said something similar - that the 49ers were less prepared than the Ravens and were outcoached. If they can't do better after having two years to iron out their coaching bugs, I am not confident they will be much better next year. Ceiling?

2. Kap: While many say the sky is the limit with Kap, that he will be better, also remember that other teams will learn and adjust, too. Roman has admitted that he does ot want Kap to run too much to avoid the risk of injury. Other teams will know that and will adopt defensive schemes that assume he will rarely keep and run the ball. BALT assumed that in the last series and their gamble paid off. The only way to cross teams up will be to have Kap keep the ball and run it, which is not what Roman wants to do very often. If Kap has a problem it may be decsion-making while under pressure. He may get better at it, but we don't really know yet.

3. Opponents: The NFC is also going to be better. Besides us, Seattle also has a very promising young QB, and Fisher at St. Louis appears to be a good coach who will find ways to make his defense even better.

4. Injuries: Frankly, our team has been very fortunate the last two years regarding starter injuries. We may not be so lucky next year.

5. Defense: Justin Smith has been a dominent force, so much so that he was a critical factor in many of our victories. He will be coming off surgery and will lose some muscle strength as he recuperates. He will clearly work hard to rehabilitate, but at his age, some of that strength may not return to former levels. We can see how just a small drop-off can affect the entire defense. While we may draft a DL in the first ro0und, it is unlikely he will play at the level we are used to Justin playing at.

In short, hope for the best but prepare for the worst.
18-0!!!!

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Originally posted by 80849er4life:
18-0!!!!

not with the current roster we have right this very moment, you would be lucky to get 10 wins out of what walked of the field sunday and that is assuming,, justin, hunter, mario, kyle all come back 100 per cent
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by 80849er4life:
18-0!!!!

not with the current roster we have right this very moment, you would be lucky to get 10 wins out of what walked of the field sunday and that is assuming,, justin, hunter, mario, kyle all come back 100 per cent

Your crazy. With Kaep at QB that gives at least ten wins. Our offense will he a force next year almost as much as our D was in 2011. No way the Niners win less than ten games. In fact I think think the team goes 8-0 at home as they realize it is the last season at the stick. Seriously, Kaep is good enough to get is 11-13 wins minimum. Go Niners!!
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Originally posted by OldJoe:
Not with this defense.
Yup, there are a ton of QBs that we're facing next season that will expose this secondary.

Wilson (twice) Newton, RG3
Originally posted by excelsior:
Some of you may be afflicted with irrational exhuberance. This is the NFL It is a tough league. It takes very little to upset the balance. Here are the problems facing the 49ers:

1. Coaching: Harbaugh and his staff are worlds better than the Nolan and Singletary regimes, but they have had two years to get their stuff together, and they still suffer from too many brain freezes. We saw how H was outcoached by Coughlin in last year's NFCC game. This year, Steve Young, in his recent KNBR interview, said something similar - that the 49ers were less prepared than the Ravens and were outcoached. If they can't do better after having two years to iron out their coaching bugs, I am not confident they will be much better next year. Ceiling?

2. Kap: While many say the sky is the limit with Kap, that he will be better, also remember that other teams will learn and adjust, too. Roman has admitted that he does ot want Kap to run too much to avoid the risk of injury. Other teams will know that and will adopt defensive schemes that assume he will rarely keep and run the ball. BALT assumed that in the last series and their gamble paid off. The only way to cross teams up will be to have Kap keep the ball and run it, which is not what Roman wants to do very often. If Kap has a problem it may be decsion-making while under pressure. He may get better at it, but we don't really know yet.

3. Opponents: The NFC is also going to be better. Besides us, Seattle also has a very promising young QB, and Fisher at St. Louis appears to be a good coach who will find ways to make his defense even better.

4. Injuries: Frankly, our team has been very fortunate the last two years regarding starter injuries. We may not be so lucky next year.

5. Defense: Justin Smith has been a dominent force, so much so that he was a critical factor in many of our victories. He will be coming off surgery and will lose some muscle strength as he recuperates. He will clearly work hard to rehabilitate, but at his age, some of that strength may not return to former levels. We can see how just a small drop-off can affect the entire defense. While we may draft a DL in the first ro0und, it is unlikely he will play at the level we are used to Justin playing at.

In short, hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

6. Don't forget about our overall secondary. The back end must improve.......
Let's just hope it's not 18-1....
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