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The 49ers suck at situational football, ie 3rd DOWN & REDZONE

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Why?

Furthermore, I was disappointed with Roman & Fangio (the latter especially). Teams have had 2 years of film on these two. Time to evolve or die.

Are they the right play-callers to get this team over the hump.
You cant talk Roman without Harbaugh. Even Gore and other players said they couldn't believe Frank didnt get a carry at the end.
Everything they do in these circumstances is completely ass backwards. Run when they should pass, pass when they should run. You are right it's been like this 2 seasons now.
We been lucky this clunky system has won as much as it has because if this keeps up we will get close but not all the way many many times.

This loss still stings like a motherf**ker. We effing had it and choked it away again. I am so sick of this I swear to god. We came within 5 yards of the win and we couldn't get those few yards with 4 downs? After already suffering a heartbreaker last season and we couldn't get it done?

Unreal our guys must feel like hell right now.
Roman called a draw to Kaep which was the play that led to a flag for delay of game and got saved by Harbaugh's Timeout. Once we tipped our hand to that play its hard to run it again. Then, Kaep admited the 4th down throw to Crabtree was an audible when he saw the all out blitz/cover zero coming. Unfortunatly, the Raven CB said that when Kaep audibled and tapped the back of his helmet they knew that meant the back shoulder fade was coming to Crabtree and they covered it. That's being out coached.
Kaepernick has to improve in the red zone. He will.
It's really weird, because Jimmy Raye-run offense was better in the redzone.
Jake and I have been talking about this since CK took over.

CK is not comfy throwing into a condensed defense.

I love CK and am beyond stoked he is starting....but he is significantly better throwing the ball from 20 to 10 then 5 to goalline
Red zone offense and third down efficiency take time, to be honest.

As awesome as our offense has been, the 49ers last year had a strike-shortened season, in which they had minimal time to put together an offense. This year, we switched quarterbacks in like, week 12, and DRASTICALLY changed what we do on offense.

Naturally, it'll take some time to get the most difficult situations (3rd down and redzone) to be at a high level. I hope we'll have it figured out next season.
[ Edited by Wubbie on Feb 4, 2013 at 6:36 PM ]
At the moment, our offensive fortes seems to be running the ball and the intermediate/long-intermediate passing passing game. We seem to have trouble when the defenses compress and we run out of vertical room to work with. I've suggested elsewhere that we seem to avoid stretching the field laterally at the line of scrimmage, and as a guy that cut his teeth watching Walsh reinvent football, it's my gut instinct that the lanes between the OLBs and the CBs are critically important in the red zone. I don't understand the pistol well enough to really criticize what we're doing, but I get the feeling that we're not utilizing the full field in a area where space is at a premium.
Not too concerned about Kap and the redzone. I was very concerned about it going into the postseason but he actually proved me wrong in both the GB and Atlanta game. So I'm sure he'll be just fine next season.

Honestly, I never thought too highly of Fangio, not even last season. I was never too high on Roman's conservative play calling and what do they do in the first half of the Superbowl? I thought his play calling in the GB game was by far his best. He also made some great adjustments in the first half of the Atlanta game. So I felt confident that Roman was going to hit it out of the park again. I was dead wrong.
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Red zone offense and third down efficiency take time, to be honest.

As awesome as our offense has been, the 49ers last year had a strike-shortened season, in which they had minimal time to put together an offense. This year, we switched quarterbacks in like, week 12, and DRASTICALLY changed what we do on offense.

Naturally, it'll take some time to get the most difficult situations (3rd down and redzone) to be at a high level. I hope we'll have it figured out next season.
Well yeah, it was even an issue last season as well.
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Jake and I have been talking about this since CK took over.

CK is not comfy throwing into a condensed defense.

I love CK and am beyond stoked he is starting....but he is significantly better throwing the ball from 20 to 10 then 5 to goalline

Yeah I was hoping we'd take that delay of game penalty to give the offense more space. Instead we wasted a timeout.....
Glad to see their working on it....hope QP is the one running the infamous corner endzone fade route Crabs failed @

http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2/49ers-Emphasize-Red-Zone-Work/a9dc3fa9-0d5c-4eb9-b6fd-9d7452fead42
I'm hoping Vance McDonald will help with the red zone offense. 2 TE sets. But another starting receiver with some length would go a long way towards helping that area as well. Crabtree has long arms & is 6'1, so he's a pretty good red zone target. Boldin is too. The Niners could use another WR like that. I thought Justin Hunter would have fit that bill, but I don't lament passing on him because I'd rather have Carradine.

Kendall Hunter coming back should help too.