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Need something cleared up regarding Dalton/Kaepernick

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I remember vaguely hearing somewhere that Harbaugh personally took a trip to scout Dalton at TCU and he was his guy but apparently he couldn't trade up far enough(because we traded up for Kaep, anyways) and Kaep was his second choice. Can anyone clarify this?
Just recently there was an interview (on Real Sports) with Harbs dad and he said Jim told him before day 2 of the draft that he was drafting Colin.

Edit: Here's a link http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/men-action/201301/jack-jim-harbaugh-colin-kaepernick-quarterback-nfl-draft
[ Edited by KegBert on Jan 27, 2013 at 7:48 PM ]
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Originally posted by est1985:
I remember vaguely hearing somewhere that Harbaugh personally took a trip to scout Dalton at TCU and he was his guy but apparently he couldn't trade up far enough(because we traded up for Kaep, anyways) and Kaep was his second choice. Can anyone clarify this?

That appears to have been a smoke screen, so they could get the guy they actually wanted in Kaep.
Originally posted by est1985:
I remember vaguely hearing somewhere that Harbaugh personally took a trip to scout Dalton at TCU and he was his guy but apparently he couldn't trade up far enough(because we traded up for Kaep, anyways) and Kaep was his second choice. Can anyone clarify this?

Yes that is true! I remembered that 49ers really wanted Dalton but Cinn bengals changed his mind then grab to Dalton! I was so happy! i suprised it that 49ers did jump and trade up to grab Kaep! I was like.. Yessss!!! I really must to say thank you Cinn Bengals!! Good Job 49ers did grab with Kaep!
Originally posted by BuZzB28:
Yes that is true! I remembered that 49ers really wanted Dalton but Cinn bengals changed his mind then grab to Dalton! I was so happy! i suprised it that 49ers did jump and trade up to grab Kaep! I was like.. Yessss!!! I really must to say thank you Cinn Bengals!! Good Job 49ers did grab with Kaep!

Not really. Harbaugh always wanted Kaepernick, he spent the most time with Kaepernick, that was his guy. I remember hearing that Baalke and some of the other scouts were interested in Dalton but Harbaugh always wanted Kaepernick and only Kaepernick, he felt that Dalton was more ready but that Kaepernick had significantly better tools and upside.
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LaConforia was the douchebag who insinuated that Harbs might have wanted Dalton as his QB. It was completely baseless, but of course the nay-sayers on the zone ran with it.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by BuZzB28:
Yes that is true! I remembered that 49ers really wanted Dalton but Cinn bengals changed his mind then grab to Dalton! I was so happy! i suprised it that 49ers did jump and trade up to grab Kaep! I was like.. Yessss!!! I really must to say thank you Cinn Bengals!! Good Job 49ers did grab with Kaep!

Not really. Harbaugh always wanted Kaepernick, he spent the most time with Kaepernick, that was his guy. I remember hearing that Baalke and some of the other scouts were interested in Dalton but Harbaugh always wanted Kaepernick and only Kaepernick, he felt that Dalton was more ready but that Kaepernick had significantly better tools and upside.
Serious? Good Job Harbaugh!! I am so happy.. I am tell u the true cuz i really interested in Kaep more than Dalton because i watched Kaep on video youtube what he did play for college and chamionship. he did beat the Boise college. My eyes on him.. he looked good and smart to plays and good his mind and get to fight the win games.. I loved it..
[ Edited by BuZzB28 on Jan 27, 2013 at 8:26 PM ]
I saw something that said Harbaugh was the only guy in the organization that wanted Kaep over Dalton and they let Harbs choose because he's a QB guru and it worked out
He wanted Kaep because he knows Kaep is better.
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Jack: "He said, Dad... Colin Kaepernick, thats who are going to draft...

... I said ' Jim, that's the guy' "

[ Edited by Garcia on Jan 27, 2013 at 9:05 PM ]
Originally posted by est1985:
I remember vaguely hearing somewhere that Harbaugh personally took a trip to scout Dalton at TCU and he was his guy but apparently he couldn't trade up far enough(because we traded up for Kaep, anyways) and Kaep was his second choice. Can anyone clarify this?


Untrue, JH checked out both QBs including Cam, even though we had no chance at Cam. If you are a good coach, you are going to the do your homework. When we first hired JH after Baalke got the job, Ballke said he would listen to the scouts and the coaches on what they thought but we would ultimately make the final decisions, but would defere to JH when it came to QBs.

Now fast foward, recently Baalke said in an interview during this playoff stretch, that he had originally graded Kaep in the third or later rounds, but JH told him he wanted Kaep and that the team needed to move up to get him, Baalke asked are your sure, JH said yes, and the rest is history. Good thing too cause the Jets wanted him (not that they have any idea how to coach a QB). At first I thought when I read it, that wow, I thought both Baalke and JH had the same grade of second round, but it was all JH, but Baalke showed he was a man of his word and worked with JH instead insisting to do it his way only which some GMs sometimes do.
when Dalton was picked didnt Baalke hit the table with his fist or looked frustrated because non of the phones where ringing. I think this was where we got the impression that maybe the QB they wanted was off the table.
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Originally posted by est1985:
I remember vaguely hearing somewhere that Harbaugh personally took a trip to scout Dalton at TCU and he was his guy but apparently he couldn't trade up far enough(because we traded up for Kaep, anyways) and Kaep was his second choice. Can anyone clarify this?

I actually remember a story that Walsh would have taken phill Simms over montana if Simms were available. That worked out great , I hope this works out just as well.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/671789-draft-day-stories-did-bill-walsh-really-target-joe-montana-in-1979
[ Edited by jdean on Jan 27, 2013 at 9:22 PM ]
Originally posted by ace49ers:
when Dalton was picked didnt Baalke hit the table with his fist or looked frustrated because non of the phones where ringing. I think this was where we got the impression that maybe the QB they wanted was off the table.

Or it could be that, with Dalton gone earlier, Kaep might get taken sooner. Like some positions you hate when other teams panic cause there is a run on a certain position and you might not get the guy(s) were aiming at. However, Baalke did like Dalton, but also had him rated late second early third, we didn't know it at the time for obvious reasons.
Originally posted by matt49er:
I saw something that said Harbaugh was the only guy in the organization that wanted Kaep over Dalton and they let Harbs choose because he's a QB guru and it worked out

Where did you get this?