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Originally posted by diegosydney:It's not a ridiculous argument to be optimistic because one guy got the team further than the other despite not having anywhere near the same amount of experience, and nowhere near the amount of support from the Defense and Special Teams.
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by diegosydney:
It's not a ridiculous argument to be optimistic because one guy got the team further than the other despite not having anywhere near the same amount of experience, and nowhere near the amount of support from the Defense and Special Teams.
It is a ridiculous argument, it has gone on and on and on and achieved nothing.
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by diegosydney:
It's not a ridiculous argument to be optimistic because one guy got the team further than the other despite not having anywhere near the same amount of experience, and nowhere near the amount of support from the Defense and Special Teams.
It is a ridiculous argument, it has gone on and on and on and achieved nothing.
Originally posted by diegosydney:Originally posted by English:Originally posted by diegosydney:It's not a ridiculous argument to be optimistic because one guy got the team further than the other despite not having anywhere near the same amount of experience, and nowhere near the amount of support from the Defense and Special Teams.
It is a ridiculous argument, it has gone on and on and on and achieved nothing.
Fine, have it your way, I won't be optimistic about having a young dynamic Franchise QB that got the team to the Superbowl for the first time in 18 years.....
Originally posted by InHarbsWeTrust:
Originally posted by English:
If you are going to continue this ridiculous and divisive argument, perhaps you could contrast the two teams and their coaching staff. Otherwise your question is meaningless.
Having a crappy team has nothing to do with it. Even in crappy situations there can be cause for optimism. I was optimistic after Smith's 2nd year even though the team was not good as he had improved over the 1st year.
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From @claytonespn: If the 49ers can't unload Alex Smith, he'll make a beeline for the Cardinals once he's released
http://www.arizonasports.com/?nid=40&sid=1608579
"I think the Browns would be the most interested," Clayton said of a potential Alex Smith trade
Originally posted by Jcool:
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From @claytonespn: If the 49ers can't unload Alex Smith, he'll make a beeline for the Cardinals once he's released
http://www.arizonasports.com/?nid=40&sid=1608579
"I think the Browns would be the most interested," Clayton said of a potential Alex Smith trade
Originally posted by Young2Rice:garcia will probably tell smith not to go to cleveland. i would be upset if we got less than a third round pick for alex. i would be pissed at a 4th or 5th pick is what we got. we got s**t for charles haley, we got s**t for montana, we got s**t for Owens. lets do it right this time
He should choose wisely and not follow the money. I would take AZ over Cleveland. They have Fitz and a solid defense with an offensive minded coach.
Great fit.
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:garcia will probably tell smith not to go to cleveland. i would be upset if we got less than a third round pick for alex. i would be pissed at a 4th or 5th pick is what we got. we got s**t for charles haley, we got s**t for montana, we got s**t for Owens. lets do it right this time
He should choose wisely and not follow the money. I would take AZ over Cleveland. They have Fitz and a solid defense with an offensive minded coach.
Great fit.
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:garcia will probably tell smith not to go to cleveland. i would be upset if we got less than a third round pick for alex. i would be pissed at a 4th or 5th pick is what we got. we got s**t for charles haley, we got s**t for montana, we got s**t for Owens. lets do it right this time
He should choose wisely and not follow the money. I would take AZ over Cleveland. They have Fitz and a solid defense with an offensive minded coach.
Great fit.
Originally posted by cciowa:garcia will probably tell smith not to go to cleveland. i would be upset if we got less than a third round pick for alex. i would be pissed at a 4th or 5th pick is what we got. we got s**t for charles haley, we got s**t for montana, we got s**t for Owens. lets do it right this timeOriginally posted by Young2Rice:He should choose wisely and not follow the money. I would take AZ over Cleveland. They have Fitz and a solid defense with an offensive minded coach.
Great fit.
Originally posted by English:i am sorry about being wrong about montana,, i thought we got a mid round pick and a cornerback or safety, dave waymer something?? well i was wrong so that turned out good but as you said the other two
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:garcia will probably tell smith not to go to cleveland. i would be upset if we got less than a third round pick for alex. i would be pissed at a 4th or 5th pick is what we got. we got s**t for charles haley, we got s**t for montana, we got s**t for Owens. lets do it right this time
He should choose wisely and not follow the money. I would take AZ over Cleveland. They have Fitz and a solid defense with an offensive minded coach.
Great fit.
Can't remember what we got for Haley, a straight jacket maybe. We got a 1st for Joe which iirc we turned into Stubblefield. And we got screwed on Owens.
Looking for a low 2nd or a high 3rd.
i would kick and moan about getting a fourth for smith but i guess it would not be tragic. still hope for a third ,
Originally posted by diegosydney:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by diegosydney:
Optimism isn't necesarily the same as "the second coming"
I have cause for optimism with Kaep I never had with Smith, and if getting closer to a SB win doesn't count for anything i guess you'd be just as happy with 1-15.
How optimistic were you with with what you saw after Smith's first 10 starts ?
If you are going to continue this ridiculous and divisive argument, perhaps you could contrast the two teams and their coaching staff. Otherwise your question is meaningless.
It's not a ridiculous argument to be optimistic because one guy got the team further than the other despite not having anywhere near the same amount of experience, and nowhere near the amount of support from the Defense and Special Teams.
Originally posted by dj43:
It is ironic that at the end of the Super Bowl, just as at the end of the NFCC game last season, the QB struggled due to a lack of available quality pass receivers.
Yes, the secondary defense and STs were bad this season but the offensive struggles often revolved around that lack of quality receivers.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by diegosydney:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by diegosydney:
Optimism isn't necesarily the same as "the second coming"
I have cause for optimism with Kaep I never had with Smith, and if getting closer to a SB win doesn't count for anything i guess you'd be just as happy with 1-15.
How optimistic were you with with what you saw after Smith's first 10 starts ?
If you are going to continue this ridiculous and divisive argument, perhaps you could contrast the two teams and their coaching staff. Otherwise your question is meaningless.
It's not a ridiculous argument to be optimistic because one guy got the team further than the other despite not having anywhere near the same amount of experience, and nowhere near the amount of support from the Defense and Special Teams.
It is ironic that at the end of the Super Bowl, just as at the end of the NFCC game last season, the QB struggled due to a lack of available quality pass receivers.
Yes, the secondary defense and STs were bad this season but the offensive struggles often revolved around that lack of quality receivers.