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did niners draft the wrong jenkins?
Dec 25, 2012 at 5:38 PM
- ElephantHaley
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I still dont get the AJ Jenkins pick? Now I watch a lot of college football and I never even heard of the dude when the selection was made. Now I felt the same way about the Aldon Smith pick in 11' and Aldon turned out to be a sensational pick so I said well maybe give this AJ dude a chance, but... not to even see the field at all without being injured and its week 16 and beyond?? That is freightening. I wanted Kendall Reyes DE Uconn at the #30 since we had already signed Moss & Ham.
Dec 25, 2012 at 11:20 PM
- 49rz4Life
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Janoris is one of the best drafted CBs i've seen in a long time. Hasnt been caught with a PED either.
[ Edited by 49rz4Life on Dec 25, 2012 at 11:21 PM ]
Dec 25, 2012 at 11:40 PM
- TheRickestRick
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I remember when people thought DHB would of been a better pick and was the better receiver over Crabs after last season... It's year one people, let it play out. LMJ was a bust just a few weeks ago too, anyone still thinking that?
Dec 26, 2012 at 6:28 AM
- Cjez
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alls i knows is, Jenkins time is now. We need him. I don't wanna see fkn Ginn out there running routes like a blind kid.
Dec 26, 2012 at 8:47 AM
- CorvaNinerFan
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When you have Crabtree, Manningham, Moss and Williams ahead of you, a rookie's job is to learn the offense and prepare himself for action whenever it comes. Jenkins will contribute a lot, in time. The roster has grown to the point very few rookies will get significant PT their 1st year...that's a good thing, though. Fans will Jenkins' talent...fast, runs terrific routes. Just like LMJ, he'll be a major offensive contributor...just don't equate his lack of PT this year to him not being a good pick.
Dec 26, 2012 at 10:14 AM
- oldninerdude
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Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:Well said.
When you have Crabtree, Manningham, Moss and Williams ahead of you, a rookie's job is to learn the offense and prepare himself for action whenever it comes. Jenkins will contribute a lot, in time. The roster has grown to the point very few rookies will get significant PT their 1st year...that's a good thing, though. Fans will Jenkins' talent...fast, runs terrific routes. Just like LMJ, he'll be a major offensive contributor...just don't equate his lack of PT this year to him not being a good pick.
Reasonable, logical---how'd this get on Ninertalk?
Dec 26, 2012 at 1:00 PM
- CorvaNinerFan
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It always amazes me how quickly some fans will attach the "bust" label to a player...I thought it was well documented that Jenkins was drafted for the future, not this year. Guess some missed that...
Dec 26, 2012 at 1:11 PM
- WRATHman44
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Originally posted by oldninerdude:
Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:Well said.
When you have Crabtree, Manningham, Moss and Williams ahead of you, a rookie's job is to learn the offense and prepare himself for action whenever it comes. Jenkins will contribute a lot, in time. The roster has grown to the point very few rookies will get significant PT their 1st year...that's a good thing, though. Fans will Jenkins' talent...fast, runs terrific routes. Just like LMJ, he'll be a major offensive contributor...just don't equate his lack of PT this year to him not being a good pick.
Reasonable, logical---how'd this get on Ninertalk?
Seriously, it's like a bunch of 12-year-old girls in here sometimes. We beat NE, and it's, "Super Bowl!!! We are by far the best team in the league, and this season will establish the start of our new dynasty!!!!!"
We get beat up by Seattle, and it's, "Oh NOOOOOO!!! We won just enough games to mess up our draft slot, which won't even matter, because Baalke can't scout talent to save his life. FML!!! I'm gonna dig out my Dashboard Confessional CDs to work through my emotions!!!"
People: this is football, not Twilight. Put down your black lipstick and razor blades. Your memory needs to be longer than one week.
I am pretty positive that they got Jenkins because they thought he was an immensely talented WR who needed some time to develop his strength. Presumably, they thought our depth at WR would allow him that time to develop, and we would end up getting a dynamic playmaker that other teams did not have the depth to wait for at that spot. I have seen nothing thus far that disproves that idea. The Matt's mentioned that most of his snaps have featured him blocking, which was probably an opportunity to gain some game experience, while giving the staff an opportunity to evaluate his strength. If they trust him as a blocker, I would expect to see him get more snaps in the game. If they don't, he needs to continue to get stronger.
The end.
Dec 26, 2012 at 1:12 PM
- jreff22
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Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
It always amazes me how quickly some fans will attach the "bust" label to a player...I thought it was well documented that Jenkins was drafted for the future, not this year. Guess some missed that...
what happens when the future is now.......
Dec 26, 2012 at 1:29 PM
- WRATHman44
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
It always amazes me how quickly some fans will attach the "bust" label to a player...I thought it was well documented that Jenkins was drafted for the future, not this year. Guess some missed that...
what happens when the future is now.......
What happens when impatient people must be patient? The only people that decide that the future is now are on the 49ers staff. They can choose to give AJ considerable play time, or they can go 2 TE or FB heavy, with a healthy dose of fullhouse Pistol. The only thing that will FORCE their hand is us getting down to only 2 receivers (AJ being one of them).
Dec 26, 2012 at 1:53 PM
- rondoman
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Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
When you have Crabtree, Manningham, Moss and Williams ahead of you, a rookie's job is to learn the offense and prepare himself for action whenever it comes. Jenkins will contribute a lot, in time. The roster has grown to the point very few rookies will get significant PT their 1st year...that's a good thing, though. Fans will Jenkins' talent...fast, runs terrific routes. Just like LMJ, he'll be a major offensive contributor...just don't equate his lack of PT this year to him not being a good pick.
Which is fine if he is a later round pick. You dont draft a guy in the first round to not contribute. You dont draft projects in the first round. Im sorry, if you cannot beat out Ted Ginn as a reciever, you are not very good. This is not the 1980's NFL. You draft guys to come in and contribute right away, especially if it is a top pick.
Dec 26, 2012 at 1:54 PM
- susweel
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shouldn't this thread be in the draft section ?
Dec 26, 2012 at 1:55 PM
- rondoman
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Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
It always amazes me how quickly some fans will attach the "bust" label to a player...I thought it was well documented that Jenkins was drafted for the future, not this year. Guess some missed that...
Which right there makes it a dumb pick. What other teams draft in the first round for the future at that position? The Niners could have shored up depth on the defensive side of the ball with that pick. You dont redshirt guys in todays NFL.
Dec 26, 2012 at 1:58 PM
- jreff22
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Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
It always amazes me how quickly some fans will attach the "bust" label to a player...I thought it was well documented that Jenkins was drafted for the future, not this year. Guess some missed that...
what happens when the future is now.......
What happens when impatient people must be patient? The only people that decide that the future is now are on the 49ers staff. They can choose to give AJ considerable play time, or they can go 2 TE or FB heavy, with a healthy dose of fullhouse Pistol. The only thing that will FORCE their hand is us getting down to only 2 receivers (AJ being one of them).
Maybe you like having Ginn play WR.....I dont.
Maybe you like the gimmick pistol garbage.....I dont.
I prefer our 1st round pick to contribute to winning now.
Dec 26, 2012 at 2:25 PM
- KaepernickFan
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Janoris Jenkins is good and no doubt would help/improve our secondary, but with Manningham out, he obviously couldn't help us in that department. Sometimes it can takes 2, 3, even 4 yrs for a WR to finally "get it" and start producing and contributing to his football team. Not every WR that comes in the league can produce and become a difference maker for him team. Sometimes they need a few yrs to adjust and adapt before they start playing well.
Now with Manningham out, if we can get AJ Jenkins involved and he starts making a few plays here and there, THAT may be more beneficial for our team for the rest of this season then it would be if we had an even worse and unproven WR behind Manningham and had drafted Janoris Jenkins.
Now with Manningham out, if we can get AJ Jenkins involved and he starts making a few plays here and there, THAT may be more beneficial for our team for the rest of this season then it would be if we had an even worse and unproven WR behind Manningham and had drafted Janoris Jenkins.