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Anyone else not happy with Sundays offensive performance?

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Meh, I think the only that was disappointing was the run game.

same.
Offense was just ok considering how bad their defense is. I'm more concerned about our kicker these days.
lol if it wasnt for the defense NO team would win a game LOLOL...
regardless if they got the pick 6 or not...
i hate revisionist...

if it wasnt for Ted Ginn not calling Fair Catch...the Saints dont even get that TD to Colston...
we stopped them just about all game...

the only team in the league that actually puts a consistent foot on the throat of the opposing team when they are winning is the Patriots...

the run game wasnt great due to a few miscues for crowd noise leading to false starts
phantom holding calls
blind refs who called Crabtree down

what I dont like are the designed run plays for Kaep outside of the redzone...
if u notice he has more room to run on plays where he leaves the pocket but still intends to pass...
[ Edited by MannySoopa49ersnMD on Nov 27, 2012 at 12:36 PM ]
Seems like we use a "designer" running game for one game, go to a plain running game for the next game and then back to a "designer" running game. When we do go to a "designer" running game, you rarely see the same plays from game to game.
I actually have to say I like the offensive performance and here's why. We did nothing any different than we usually do at the end of the day.

The defense won that game for us. Not a negative, but we did the same with Alex, so must do the same with Kaep. He had 2 td's one for a run, one for a pass. But 2td's is about average. Except usually 2td's for passes, and maybe one run.

I dont need to go into specifics of who saw this or that, cuz anyone in here is only gonna see what they want to see on gameday.

One thing i laughed about was when everyone was talking about when Brooks scored the TD, how even tho Kaep was out on the field running and yelling, you really saw no team mates, come up and give him tons of dap. It reminded me of Shaun Hill in the past, jump around, do all the physical stuff after a score, but does it really put u over the top.

Listen, those that continue to write we win and ya'll complain,and or, why even make threads like this. I'll say just stop writing in here then. Alex got us to 6-2, and there wasnt one week, whether win or lose, that at least 5 threads werent created about this pass, not seeing this, horrible game, defense led, etc. So when someone does the same thing to Kaep dont get upset. Just take it on the chin like we've been doing with Alex.

I'm not gonna sit and knock what Kaep did again, because he played pretty good. But it wasnt this masterful thing that happened. To be put in perspective, he came in as a backup, and won the game. Nothing negative to say at all. His job is to win and he did. Thats why i dont get all this new QB talk and all that.

Starter/Captain gets hurt, backup comes in, starts every game the captain can't. The captain/starter gets well, Then the captain comes back after he's better. I mean i dont understand why it's hard to fathom or understand. But like many posters say....... This is the zone. :)
Ive thoroughly enjoyed every snap that Kaps been in on. The kid's only gonna get better under Harbs i mean what else would you have liked to see? Even the "elites" have off games against poor opponents and this was a SOLID start (and a win) @ NO. Our offense has had worse times man try to be happy we are contenders for a second straight season and stop nitpicking
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
I think he's somewhat right tbh. While I'm not saying Kaep. played horrible, he played well, but he didn't necessarily play this "lights out" game I'm reading everywhere.

Would we have won if not for the 2 turnovers? I honestly say probably not. I was frustrated as hell with this team up until we Brooks play. No lie. We would have been down at the half with no momentum. To me Ahmad Brooks saved this game. The QB did not win this game as many here portray.

He was running for his life all game. The Oline did not play well. Penalties, dropped passes. You can't say we would've lost without the 2 picks. We also turned the ball over twice. Ginn tried to give them the game. Akers has suddenly forgot how to kick. Colin played pretty well considering the circumstances.
Originally posted by Jersey9er:
I actually have to say I like the offensive performance and here's why. We did nothing any different than we usually do at the end of the day.

The defense won that game for us. Not a negative, but we did the same with Alex, so must do the same with Kaep. He had 2 td's one for a run, one for a pass. But 2td's is about average. Except usually 2td's for passes, and maybe one run.

I dont need to go into specifics of who saw this or that, cuz anyone in here is only gonna see what they want to see on gameday.

One thing i laughed about was when everyone was talking about when Brooks scored the TD, how even tho Kaep was out on the field running and yelling, you really saw no team mates, come up and give him tons of dap. It reminded me of Shaun Hill in the past, jump around, do all the physical stuff after a score, but does it really put u over the top.

Listen, those that continue to write we win and ya'll complain,and or, why even make threads like this. I'll say just stop writing in here then. Alex got us to 6-2, and there wasnt one week, whether win or lose, that at least 5 threads werent created about this pass, not seeing this, horrible game, defense led, etc. So when someone does the same thing to Kaep dont get upset. Just take it on the chin like we've been doing with Alex.

I'm not gonna sit and knock what Kaep did again, because he played pretty good. But it wasnt this masterful thing that happened. To be put in perspective, he came in as a backup, and won the game. Nothing negative to say at all. His job is to win and he did. Thats why i dont get all this new QB talk and all that.

Starter/Captain gets hurt, backup comes in, starts every game the captain can't. The captain/starter gets well, Then the captain comes back after he's better. I mean i dont understand why it's hard to fathom or understand. But like many posters say....... This is the zone. :)

I think Kaep's most terrible pass in the game was the back shoulder attempt to Moss. But the difference is when Alex gets criticized for a pass like this, there are not many other incredible passes he throws to make up for a bad pass or a missed receiver. Kaep threw some other incredible passes Sunday which is why some of these can get over looked.

Box Score: Colin had an Alex Smith day.
Types of Throws/accuracy: Colin had a very good day
The more I think about this, the more I a sorta agreeing with the premise.

  • Penalties to negate big plays
  • running game not really working in first half
  • drops
  • missed field goals (although you can argue this isnt technically "offense")

All of those points are part of the offense, and they all were big issues. So all in all, yes I kind of agree that Sunday's offensive performance was substandard. I wouldnt say I am "not happy" though. All things considered, I think we did fine.
we won convincingly despite what the score says, im down. were not always gonna score 30 pts and the saints are a good team playing poorly for the most part this year but they have some great players.
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Too many of you guys play the Woulda-Coulda-Shoulda crap game.

If you're going to say "If we didn't get the 2 TD scores by the D we would have lost."

If you are going to spout that NONSENSE then man-up and play it all out.

Then with that crap logic, what if Ginn didn't fumble so close to their end zone? They don't get that TD!

What if ADavis didn't commit the penalty and Gore's TD stands?

It's never ending.

Reality check. Could we have played better on Offense? Absolutely!

Did we beat a very tough team who is incredibly good in their own house? Yes we did.

Did we deserve to win? Yes, our team offense & defense beat their offense and defense.

End of discussion.

All of this

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Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
The more I think about this, the more I a sorta agreeing with the premise.

  • Penalties to negate big plays
  • running game not really working in first half
  • drops
  • missed field goals (although you can argue this isnt technically "offense")

All of those points are part of the offense, and they all were big issues. So all in all, yes I kind of agree that Sunday's offensive performance was substandard. I wouldnt say I am "not happy" though. All things considered, I think we did fine.

lol. You beat me to the punch. Was going to point out a few things. In addition to the above:

  • Throwing for 3 yards on a 3rd and 4.
  • Delay of game/not getting the snap off.

I was not unhappy with the performance. I love watching Kaep scramble to avoid pressure. He also throws a real pretty ball.

OTT, it looked like typical 49er football to me.
Kind of interesting to see some of you guys pick apart the Saints game and find ways to give credit to other facets of the game besides QB play for the win.

Where were you guys after the Jets game, Giants game, Minnesota game, etc making the same argument(s) against Alex when our defense had to carry us and/or Alex failed to deliver ?

At that time, it was easy to point to receivers dropping balls, not making route adjustments to prevent INTs, bad playcalling by coaches..........but now, all of that is irrelevant and your concern is that Kaep isnt NFL ready and may be the reason behind our bad offensie production.

On a side note, it's laughable if you think Alex could have made a "few more plays" than Kaep in the Saints game.
[ Edited by Faraz80 on Nov 27, 2012 at 1:12 PM ]
Take away ginns fumble add gores score at the end and the 2 missed field goals and the final score is 44-14. What if...what a joke! We beat thier ass period!
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
The more I think about this, the more I a sorta agreeing with the premise.

  • Penalties to negate big plays
  • running game not really working in first half
  • drops
  • missed field goals (although you can argue this isnt technically "offense")

All of those points are part of the offense, and they all were big issues. So all in all, yes I kind of agree that Sunday's offensive performance was substandard. I wouldnt say I am "not happy" though. All things considered, I think we did fine.

lol. You beat me to the punch. Was going to point out a few things. In addition to the above:

  • Throwing for 3 yards on a 3rd and 4.
  • Delay of game/not getting the snap off.

I was not unhappy with the performance. I love watching Kaep scramble to avoid pressure. He also throws a real pretty ball.

OTT, it looked like typical 49er football to me.

biggest factor is that with these mistakes, they are not big enough to shut down our offense... compared to a AS lead offense where everything needs to be perfect
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