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Does Alex Smith have any Trade Value???

Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by pahlerbj:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by pahlerbj:
Originally posted by dj43:
1. Baalke will pay him at least what he is getting now to keep him as a back up until CK has thoroughly proven he is reliable against multiple opponents. Note: Bears. Steelers. Others.

2. Right now 20+ plus teams would pay Smith starting money to play for them, hence they are likely to give up a 2nd round pick to get him if he is signed.

I don't see Smith leaving except by trade.

really?

Yes, really. There are a lot of teams out there that are struggling with their current QB. They would love to have a guy who can lead the league in percentage and be high on the yards/att. list, as well as reading defenses well.

you dont think teams realize that the system would have to be pretty good for alex to succeed. I would say 5 teams tops. thats just my opinion

Smith has played in enough systems, and against enough other teams, to have significant value.

Here are the teams that are well settled at QB based on actual play (not the amount of money they have committed):
Atlanta
New Orleans
New England
Denver
NY Giants
Houston
Green Bay
Washington
Pittsburgh
Chicago
Carolina (barely)
11

These are on the bubble:
Cincy
Tampa Bay
Baltimore
Detroit
4

All the rest would be glad to have Alex Smith as their starting QB. Question is: Would Alex be willing to go to any of the others? There are some very bad teams out there and they would be willing to give up a lot to have consistent QB play.


I think you are overstating it and definitely forgot Indy on the settled list. I do think there are ~6-8 teams that would consider him though:

Jets
Arizona
Jacksonville
Eagles
Kansas City
Oakland?
Buffalo?
Tennessee?

If non of the above are doable then he could go to a team where he'd push the starter:
Minnesota
San Diego
Cleveland
Ravens
etc
Originally posted by boomer49er:
Alex is a top 10 qb imo, but because of the situation we would have little leverage so his value is rock bottom. Teams know we cant keep him next year if CK is the starter so they might offer a 5th for him but they know t hey could wait for us to cut him so likely we woildnt even get that. CK right now would fetch a 1st rounder because of the hype and his low contract number means we could hold onto him even if he wasnt starting.

Assuming both QBs continue at the level they have been we cant lose. We either clear a lot of cap room or get a high pick.

So it's ok for smith to start and CK to sit for the same money next year , but it's not ok if it's vice versa?
Originally posted by dj43:
1. Baalke will pay him at least what he is getting now to keep him as a back up until CK has thoroughly proven he is reliable against multiple opponents. Note: Bears. Steelers. Others.

2. Right now 20+ plus teams would pay Smith starting money to play for them, hence they are likely to give up a 2nd round pick to get him if he is signed.

I don't see Smith leaving except by trade.

You cant be serious with that figure.
Originally posted by bigmur49:
Originally posted by dj43:
Smith has played in enough systems, and against enough other teams, to have significant value.

Here are the teams that are well settled at QB based on actual play (not the amount of money they have committed):
Atlanta
New Orleans
New England
Denver
NY Giants
Houston
Green Bay
Washington
Pittsburgh
Chicago
Carolina (barely)
11

These are on the bubble:
Cincy
Tampa Bay
Baltimore
Detroit
4

All the rest would be glad to have Alex Smith as their starting QB. Question is: Would Alex be willing to go to any of the others? There are some very bad teams out there and they would be willing to give up a lot to have consistent QB play.
Not sure about the "Bubble" list:

Dalton is a franchise QB
Stafford is a franchise QB
Flacco is a franchise QB
Johnson is maybe a slight step down, but still the unquestioned starter

I would say only KC, PHI, JAX, OAK, CLE, ARI, TENN would pay starter money. imo
Back the one-way ticket outta S.F. for Alex Smith up. This entire board is still one 2-3 INT game away from calling for Smith so give it some time to settle itself.
The teams I think he could go to are:
San Diego - I think they might blow up that team in the off season. Smith could go home
Cleveland - for his sake I really hope this doesn't happen
Buffalo - would probably have some interest. They are heading for another re-build based on the local radio and people are done with Fitzpatrick
Tennessee - if Locker isn't ready yet and they don't believe Hasselbeck has enough left in the tank
Jacksonville - same as the Titans, but I hope they get Tebow first!
Arizona - I think this is the most likely, and if he is bitter it would be a team he would like to go to.
Philly - They would eat him alive.

Personally, I hope there is a way to keep him as a backup as Kaepernick might get banged up if they are running him a lot. Their salaries combined can't equal much compared to teams with a $18million starter.

It is tough to figure is he a top 10/top15 QB etc. Before last season he had no value at all, but when you listen to National Media all they talk about is how smart and accurate he is.
Originally posted by dj43:
Only because it was well known he had no serious interest in going any place else unless Peyton came here.

Originally posted by HornedToad10:
I think this is mainly because everyone in the NFL knew he wanted to return to the 49ers and the 49ers wanted him. I think he would have had more interest if the 49ers had signed Peyton since then it wouldn't have been bringing in Alex just for the sake of it.

Additonally, teams are more unsettled at QB this year than they were last year: Arizona, Jacksonville, Jets, etc.

That's never in the history of free agency how its worked. Not to mention the time we spent " evaluating " Peyton manning. If a team last year seriously thought smith would upgrade their qb situation there would have been some suitors offering serious money. The contract we offered was modest and essentially is a series of one year contracts. The reality is Smith is viewed around the league as a product of JH.

This offseason smith will get a another modest contract from a team looking for a placeholder as they groom a rookie signal caller.
[ Edited by natrone06 on Nov 26, 2012 at 10:34 PM ]
If Al Davis was still alive we'd get about 2 first round picks
The best way for Oakland to get back to playing decent football would be to trade us a 4th rounder for Smith and bring Norv in as OC.

But that's just my view. Not sure if blond bowl cut will feel the same way...
Only if a team were willing to trade for him to secure his services, rather than waiting for him to be cut and hit the FA market.
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Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper:
Originally posted by 49erfaithful49:
Under Harbaugh Alex Smith is better than

Romo
Rivers
Weeden
Palmer
Cassel
Ponder
Bradford
Sanchez
Fitzy
kolb/skelton
whoever Tennessee is starting
The eagles could use a QB

Fixed that for you.

He was also better than those QBs under Mike Johnson. But yes, since Harbaugh gets all the credit for Alex's success, that severely undercuts Alex's value to other teams, especially if he's benched by Harbaugh again against the Rams. I think Alex would be an upgrade for about 3/4 of the league, but I think less than 10 teams will actually pursue him, and none will trade for him when they know Baalke is going to cut him.
I love alex(still want kaep to start) but I honestly cannot see him going anywhere and succeeding.
Originally posted by RonMexico:
I love alex(still want kaep to start) but I honestly cannot see him going anywhere and succeeding.

I think he'll do well on teams like the Ravens, Falcons, Bears, etc.

He will get traded for....













































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I am hoping for a second, but there won't be a ton of interest. 6-8 teams tops. Some of you guys are crazy to think smith would replace romo, rivers, weeded, flacco or some of the others listed