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QB decision effect on locker Room

Originally posted by norcal49er864:
To me, playmaker means that they are someone that is able to make things happen on the football field due to their superior talent and ability. "The man" is like saying someone is good. Which Alex is. He's good. Or maybe that's just Vernon paying respect to what Alex has gone through to get to where he has, which Vernon has done before. Just saying, its unspecific imo.

Let's not try to over analyze things. We are winning before Kaep was starting so I really question why he's choosing Kaep over Alex when Alex has put up fantastic stats last year and continuing on this year.

You don't lose your starting job due to injury should still apply. The treatment of a team's player is disheartening when it comes from the coach. Don't want to see this happen to another player, not just Alex.
I wonder how fans will feel when that time comes when Harbaugh does the same thing to Frank Gore or Vernon, when the time comes for it.

We know this will eventually happen.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Weapons are now actually weapons


how many catches for vernon and moss today? i guess they were unloaded weapons
Originally posted by hofer36:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Weapons are now actually weapons


how many catches for vernon and moss today? i guess they were unloaded weapons

Support your new starting QB
Originally posted by 9erempire:
Originally posted by norcal49er864:
To me, playmaker means that they are someone that is able to make things happen on the football field due to their superior talent and ability. "The man" is like saying someone is good. Which Alex is. He's good. Or maybe that's just Vernon paying respect to what Alex has gone through to get to where he has, which Vernon has done before. Just saying, its unspecific imo.

Let's not try to over analyze things. We are winning before Kaep was starting so I really question why he's choosing Kaep over Alex when Alex has put up fantastic stats last year and continuing on this year.

You don't lose your starting job due to injury should still apply. The treatment of a team's player is disheartening when it comes from the coach. Don't want to see this happen to another player, not just Alex.

I honestly don't see it that way. Do you lose your starting job to injury, or do you lose it by making it to the playoffs and then crapping the bed with a mediocre performance where you take sacks and fail to make plays? Because one of those screws over one guy, and the other one screws over an entire team by ending their season with a nice hearty "see ya next year!"

Now obviously, that's not fair to say that Alex is for sure going to have a bad game in the playoffs when we get there and stick with him as our starter. But I have to imagine that Harbaugh is at least considering the possibility of that kind of performance. I mean, has Alex played well? Yeah, pretty well, but he also lost to the giants and to the vikings, and there was a painfully obvious trend in those games. We got down early, and when we had to put the game in the hands of our passing offense to bring us back, Alex couldn't get it going.

In the NFL you very rarely get a chance to evaluate your other QB options during real, live game action, and these situations don't always have a clean way of playing themselves out.

edit:

Vernon also called Kap "the man" last week after the Bears game, and he did it with a ton of enthusiasm, so there's that too...
[ Edited by norcal49er864 on Nov 25, 2012 at 10:48 PM ]
Michael Irvin brought up a crucial point as to the "little" tendencies Kaep shows; commending/pumping his players on and off the sideline after good plays and BAD plays, and the players are RESPONDING to it (and that the players love playing with this guy, cause he's so exciting with his 'big-play' abilities). -You never see Alex take the leadership initiative like guys Peyton Manning or Brady make (communicating with the offensive linemen on the bench as shown in both starts).

When Kaep scores/makes a huge play, he's the 'aura' of the offense, has anybody noticed this the past two games? -There's an energy about Colin that just makes the whole team look good.
[ Edited by SnakePlissken on Nov 25, 2012 at 10:52 PM ]
Originally posted by norcal49er864:
I honestly don't see it that way. Do you lose your starting job to injury, or do you lose it by making it to the playoffs and then crapping the bed with a mediocre performance where you take sacks and fail to make plays? Because one of those screws over one guy, and the other one screws over an entire team by ending their season with a nice hearty "see ya next year!"

Now obviously, that's not fair to say that Alex is for sure going to have a bad game in the playoffs when we get there and stick with him as our starter. But I have to imagine that Harbaugh is at least considering the possibility of that kind of performance. I mean, has Alex played well? Yeah, pretty well, but he also lost to the giants and to the vikings, and there was a painfully obvious trend in those games. We got down early, and when we had to put the game in the hands of our passing offense to bring us back, Alex couldn't get it going.

In the NFL you very rarely get a chance to evaluate your other QB options during real, live game action, and these situations don't always have a clean way of playing themselves out.

Bradshaw had a good pov after the game with how the situation has been handled. His statement about how if he's a player for harbaugh and he gets hurt he's going to the sidelines and saying nothing happened. That's a good way to stack your IR list really fast.
Originally posted by hofer36:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Weapons are now actually weapons


how many catches for vernon and moss today? i guess they were unloaded weapons

they ran the wrong routes
Kaep uses the whole field .... And he attacks defenses

This is what harbaugh likes and wants his QB to do. No matter who the QB is

His system his way
Originally posted by fly15:
Originally posted by hofer36:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Weapons are now actually weapons


how many catches for vernon and moss today? i guess they were unloaded weapons

they ran the wrong routes

Didn't attack the ball
Originally posted by LoneWolf:
Originally posted by norcal49er864:
I honestly don't see it that way. Do you lose your starting job to injury, or do you lose it by making it to the playoffs and then crapping the bed with a mediocre performance where you take sacks and fail to make plays? Because one of those screws over one guy, and the other one screws over an entire team by ending their season with a nice hearty "see ya next year!"

Now obviously, that's not fair to say that Alex is for sure going to have a bad game in the playoffs when we get there and stick with him as our starter. But I have to imagine that Harbaugh is at least considering the possibility of that kind of performance. I mean, has Alex played well? Yeah, pretty well, but he also lost to the giants and to the vikings, and there was a painfully obvious trend in those games. We got down early, and when we had to put the game in the hands of our passing offense to bring us back, Alex couldn't get it going.

In the NFL you very rarely get a chance to evaluate your other QB options during real, live game action, and these situations don't always have a clean way of playing themselves out.

Bradshaw had a good pov after the game with how the situation has been handled. His statement about how if he's a player for harbaugh and he gets hurt he's going to the sidelines and saying nothing happened. That's a good way to stack your IR list really fast.
Again though. How many times in the history of the NFL has this exact QB controversy played out? Your very good starter is injured and his possibly even better backup comes in and raises some serious questions as to who the starter should be? Joe vs. Steve? Bledsoe vs. Brady? Can you really think of a time when this has happened and it hasn't been a messy situation?
Originally posted by LoneWolf:
Originally posted by norcal49er864:
I honestly don't see it that way. Do you lose your starting job to injury, or do you lose it by making it to the playoffs and then crapping the bed with a mediocre performance where you take sacks and fail to make plays? Because one of those screws over one guy, and the other one screws over an entire team by ending their season with a nice hearty "see ya next year!"

Now obviously, that's not fair to say that Alex is for sure going to have a bad game in the playoffs when we get there and stick with him as our starter. But I have to imagine that Harbaugh is at least considering the possibility of that kind of performance. I mean, has Alex played well? Yeah, pretty well, but he also lost to the giants and to the vikings, and there was a painfully obvious trend in those games. We got down early, and when we had to put the game in the hands of our passing offense to bring us back, Alex couldn't get it going.

In the NFL you very rarely get a chance to evaluate your other QB options during real, live game action, and these situations don't always have a clean way of playing themselves out.

Bradshaw had a good pov after the game with how the situation has been handled. His statement about how if he's a player for harbaugh and he gets hurt he's going to the sidelines and saying nothing happened. That's a good way to stack your IR list really fast.

Originally posted by LoneWolf:
Originally posted by norcal49er864:
I honestly don't see it that way. Do you lose your starting job to injury, or do you lose it by making it to the playoffs and then crapping the bed with a mediocre performance where you take sacks and fail to make plays? Because one of those screws over one guy, and the other one screws over an entire team by ending their season with a nice hearty "see ya next year!"

Now obviously, that's not fair to say that Alex is for sure going to have a bad game in the playoffs when we get there and stick with him as our starter. But I have to imagine that Harbaugh is at least considering the possibility of that kind of performance. I mean, has Alex played well? Yeah, pretty well, but he also lost to the giants and to the vikings, and there was a painfully obvious trend in those games. We got down early, and when we had to put the game in the hands of our passing offense to bring us back, Alex couldn't get it going.

In the NFL you very rarely get a chance to evaluate your other QB options during real, live game action, and these situations don't always have a clean way of playing themselves out.

Bradshaw had a good pov after the game with how the situation has been handled. His statement about how if he's a player for harbaugh and he gets hurt he's going to the sidelines and saying nothing happened. That's a good way to stack your IR list really fast.
I think he was pretty much sayin he wouldn't let anything take him out of a game.. Not he would lie to harbaugh so he would lose his jobs. Iv heard this from quite a few players that play today and are retired.
Originally posted by norcal49er864:
Again though. How many times in the history of the NFL has this exact QB controversy played out? Your very good starter is injured and his possibly even better backup comes in and raises some serious questions as to who the starter should be? Joe vs. Steve? Bledsoe vs. Brady? Can you really think of a time when this has happened and it hasn't been a messy situation?

Oh I'm not saying I disagree entirely and usually the only part of the situations that gets messy is the extremely opinionated fan bases. I'm more concerned with the positions where we do have good backups and the players worried about losing there starting positions trying to play off minor injuries only to get worse.
Originally posted by 9erempire:
He's also starting to lose fans due to his deceitful press conferences. I don't know if I can trust what Harbaugh says anymore due to the handling of the offseason move for Manning and taking away the starting job of a player that got injured.

I think the locker room may have lost some respect in this regards.

Where's his integrity? I know the NFL is a business but the players are "49er players" and he's broken many unwritten rules when it comes to sports. These are grown men and you can't treat grown men like college kids.

Originally posted by tankle104:
I think he was pretty much sayin he wouldn't let anything take him out of a game.. Not he would lie to harbaugh so he would lose his jobs. Iv heard this from quite a few players that play today and are retired.

Originally posted by tankle104:
I think he was pretty much sayin he wouldn't let anything take him out of a game.. Not he would lie to harbaugh so he would lose his jobs. Iv heard this from quite a few players that play today and are retired.

Maybe I'm just thinking to much into it.