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Originally posted by NCommand:
As to Seattle, they played exactly how I'd like our defense to play...but don't. They play VERY physical, tight up at the LOS and do not let a single WR/TE have a clean release. And b/c of the refs, they continue to be physical well beyond the 5 yards too (and get away with it).
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
As to Seattle, they played exactly how I'd like our defense to play...but don't. They play VERY physical, tight up at the LOS and do not let a single WR/TE have a clean release. And b/c of the refs, they continue to be physical well beyond the 5 yards too (and get away with it).
I want this SO badly for our defense!!!!
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
We still have the best coaching staff, offense, and defense in the division. This division will come down to who has the better offense and that's us. Cards and Hawks won't be able to run on us and will have to depend on Wilson and Kolb/Skelton to beat us which isn't going to happen.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
As to Seattle, they played exactly how I'd like our defense to play...but don't. They play VERY physical, tight up at the LOS and do not let a single WR/TE have a clean release. And b/c of the refs, they continue to be physical well beyond the 5 yards too (and get away with it).
I want this SO badly for our defense!!!!
Tell me about it! And imagine what we could do OFF those sets...CB blitzes, S's rushing the passer, stuffing the run, etc. Culliver, Goldson and Whitner would have FIELD DAYS playing this game...as would all the LBers. We could really disrupt the timing of plays esp. those easy RB passing and TE's in the EZ. We did a great job of this against Detroit and then went right back to this two-hand-touch defense (after) the ball is easily caught. Sooooo frustrating!
But again, this is poor situational awareness by Fangio. Does he not SEE how physical these refs are letting defenders play now? It's like old 80's style defense! We play soft and STILL get a few horrible P.I. calls so you might as well play physical anyways.
Originally posted by barrymartin:
The notion that we would win the NFC easily is gone. The Cards and Seattle both are playing monster defense. They can rush the passer extremely well, and we all know our pass protection is our weak point. There is the chance that either team can severely limit or even take away our passing game. We have shown we can't stretch defenses, with the exception of Vernon occasionally. Can you imagine what will happen if they compress their defenses to within 20 yds of the line of scrimmage. Short to intermediate passes gone. Safety in the box for fun support making it harder to run. Pressure from everywhere on obvious passing downs. Alex on his back often(see Aaron Rodgers last night). So, there has to be a fundamental change in our passing game for our season to flower. We absolutely have to have a real, respectable deep threat which decompresses, defenses opening up the run and short passing game. That means we have to call the plays, which we haven't. It means we have to have deep threats which we haven't besides Vernon occasionally. And it means Alex has to take more chances and not check down which he hasn't. And it means Alex has to be consistantly accurate on deep throws which he hasn't. Defenses have played us the same way for the last few years, and nothing has essentially changed. This is a fundamental major change that has to happen or I really don't think we will win the NFC West.
Originally posted by barrymartin:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Game-planning on both offense and defense scare me. Last night I saw good game plans for Seattle's defense and then good adjustments on offense for GB. Essentially, after 8 sacks, GB started playing OUR game. Jumbo, max protection, power running, timely passing and clock-management...and it worked. So that said, we are BUILT to beat the Seahawks. The Cards, not so much...
We struggle against great 3-4 defenses that can disguise blitzes well and THAT is what the Cards are. They dictate offenses. They are MUCH more advanced than Fangio and I don't see Roman adjusting well in-game and at half times, generally. As to Seattle, they played exactly how I'd like our defense to play...but don't. They play VERY physical, tight up at the LOS and do not let a single WR/TE have a clean release. And b/c of the refs, they continue to be physical well beyond the 5 yards too (and get away with it). Us, we give ENORMOUS cushions and nothing but clean releases. We let a guy like Ponder deliver time and time again and gain confidence and make plays esp. on 3rd downs when we are playing off 10-15 yards with our CB's and 25 yards deep with our S's.
Fangio and Roman are hit and miss to me and I'm not seeing much, if any, in-game adjustments to adopt to the culture of the game like I do with smarter teams/coaching.
I watch every game multiple times, objectively and I'm wondering, is that just me?
We still have the most talent, top-to-bottom; just not sure if we're playing to our strengths or are making the proper adjustments.
The notion that we would win the NFC easily is gone. The Cards and Seattle both are playing monster defense. They can rush the passer extremely well, and we all know our pass protection is our weak point. There is the chance that either team can severely limit or even take away our passing game. We have shown we can't stretch defenses, with the exception of Vernon occasionally. Can you imagine what will happen if they compress their defenses to within 20 yds of the line of scrimmage. Short to intermediate passes gone. Safety in the box for fun support making it harder to run. Pressure from everywhere on obvious passing downs. Alex on his back often(see Aaron Rodgers last night). So, there has to be a fundamental change in our passing game for our season to flower. We absolutely have to have a real, respectable deep threat which decompresses, defenses opening up the run and short passing game. That means we have to call the plays, which we haven't. It means we have to have deep threats which we haven't besides Vernon occasionally. And it means Alex has to take more chances and not check down which he hasn't. And it means Alex has to be consistantly accurate on deep throws which he hasn't. Defenses have played us the same way for the last few years, and nothing has essentially changed. This is a fundamental major change that has to happen or I really don't think we will win the NFC West.
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Lmao at all of you that are scared.
Originally posted by barrymartin:
The notion that we would win the NFC easily is gone. The Cards and Seattle both are playing monster defense. They can rush the passer extremely well, and we all know our pass protection is our weak point. There is the chance that either team can severely limit or even take away our passing game. We have shown we can't stretch defenses, with the exception of Vernon occasionally. Can you imagine what will happen if they compress their defenses to within 20 yds of the line of scrimmage. Short to intermediate passes gone. Safety in the box for fun support making it harder to run. Pressure from everywhere on obvious passing downs. Alex on his back often(see Aaron Rodgers last night). So, there has to be a fundamental change in our passing game for our season to flower. We absolutely have to have a real, respectable deep threat which decompresses, defenses opening up the run and short passing game. That means we have to call the plays, which we haven't. It means we have to have deep threats which we haven't besides Vernon occasionally. And it means Alex has to take more chances and not check down which he hasn't. And it means Alex has to be consistantly accurate on deep throws which he hasn't. Defenses have played us the same way for the last few years, and nothing has essentially changed. This is a fundamental major change that has to happen or I really don't think we will win the NFC West.
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Yeah, I understand when playing a guy like Calvin you can't just play press and not have a S over the top (at least).. but playing off the way we do is teh suxxorz. We even do that sh*t when we are backed up in the redzone... why? how the f**k deep can the WRs really get on our CBs in that scenario?
Not gonna say much more till I watch the defensive plays again soon... but I do not feel we are using our pass rush to our advantage when we just allow QBs to chew us up with uncontested underneath routes all day.
Originally posted by NCommand:Watching Dom capers defense last night and you see the Packers doing the same thing. They just have more aggressive corners Rodgers and Brown aren't as fast, big or aggressive as any of the corners that were on the field last night.
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by TinyHandsBigHeart:
Arizona is looking really solid. Right now, they're playing the best defense any team has played in at least a few seasons. If they can get just decent play from Kolb, they'll probably win the division unless we can turn things around in a big way. In a lot of ways, they're very similar to us last season, but I think their defense is probably better than ours was by a fair margin. I think our defense is more talented, but Ray Horton is much better schematically than Fangio. They find ways to get pressure on the QB on almost every play. It seems like a lot of times this seasons (and last season too) that QBs we've faced have gotten a ton of time to wait for someone to get open.
lol way better than ours based on one s**tty loss to minnesota where the whole team sucked lol. calm down dude, we'll be fine. were one game behind them as of right now, they will not go undefeated, theyre playing good team football right now like we played the first two weeks and all of last year with. theyve also had their fair share of luck this year with these s**tty refs were weve been tortured by them so far. itll all balance out soon
Game-planning on both offense and defense scare me. Last night I saw good game plans for Seattle's defense and then good adjustments on offense for GB. Essentially, after 8 sacks, GB started playing OUR game. Jumbo, max protection, power running, timely passing and clock-management...and it worked. So that said, we are BUILT to beat the Seahawks. The Cards, not so much...
We struggle against great 3-4 defenses that can disguise blitzes well and THAT is what the Cards are. They dictate offenses. They are MUCH more advanced than Fangio and I don't see Roman adjusting well in-game and at half times, generally. As to Seattle, they played exactly how I'd like our defense to play...but don't. They play VERY physical, tight up at the LOS and do not let a single WR/TE have a clean release. And b/c of the refs, they continue to be physical well beyond the 5 yards too (and get away with it). Us, we give ENORMOUS cushions and nothing but clean releases. We let a guy like Ponder deliver time and time again and gain confidence and make plays esp. on 3rd downs when we are playing off 10-15 yards with our CB's and 25 yards deep with our S's.
Fangio and Roman are hit and miss to me and I'm not seeing much, if any, in-game adjustments to adopt to the culture of the game like I do with smarter teams/coaching.
I watch every game multiple times, objectively and I'm wondering, is that just me?
We still have the most talent, top-to-bottom; just not sure if we're playing to our strengths or are making the proper adjustments.