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A rarely talked about Montana quality

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Someone mentioned this to me in email and I thought it was noteworthy:

"For all the talk about Montana's clutch ability, accuracy, touch, pocket presence, etc, people tend to forget that in Walsh's eyes, what really made Montana perfect for his intended offense was his mobility. And not just his mobility in the pocket, but his drop. That guy covered more yardage more quickly in a basic three-step drop than almost any QB before or since. It was a huge advantage for him and it's erroneous to suggest that any other QB could have duplicated it."

Anyone notice that?

Yup. He could read the defense while dropping back better then anyone.
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Someone mentioned this to me in email and I thought it was noteworthy:

"For all the talk about Montana's clutch ability, accuracy, touch, pocket presence, etc, people tend to forget that in Walsh's eyes, what really made Montana perfect for his intended offense was his mobility. And not just his mobility in the pocket, but his drop. That guy covered more yardage more quickly in a basic three-step drop than almost any QB before or since. It was a huge advantage for him and it's erroneous to suggest that any other QB could have duplicated it."

Anyone notice that?

Yup. He could read the defense while dropping back better then anyone.

I think he would have had a difficult time during and after the zone blitz era. He already knew where he was going with the ball prior to the drop. The stuff during the drop was to freeze defenses.
It all boils down to Joe's basketball skills which he incorporated into football. Moving around and passing the ball to the open man for a shot.
You can't watch this video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3AR6kctf1E


and say he wasn't mobile.
But Montana never threw for 4000 yards or was a good fantasy football QB, which means he was a game manager.
"But Montana never threw for 4000 yards or was a good fantasy football QB, which means he was a game manager."

He just won SB's, Sorry! :)
Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
But Montana never threw for 4000 yards or was a good fantasy football QB, which means he was a game manager.

Proportional to today, yes he did.
Yep, not one wasted step and eyes always downfield. Not to bring Alex into it but he's getting better at his drop and keeping his eyes down field. If you remember Shaun Hill at times would backpedal for his drop and it seemed slow and like wasted motion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy9426Qq5Ho 55 seconds. Montana's drop was quick and smooth
[ Edited by Gore_21 on Sep 19, 2012 at 11:44 AM ]
Originally posted by Joecool:
I think he would have had a difficult time during and after the zone blitz era. He already knew where he was going with the ball prior to the drop. The stuff during the drop was to freeze defenses.

Would have adjusted.
Montana was the Mike Vick of his day. The league has changed since and Montana and Walsh have a lot to do with it. Guys like Drew Bledsoe became fossils.

Yes Montana compared to guys like Cam Newton or hell even Steve Young, he's not that mobile and athletic, but in 1981...it was something never really seen successfully as it was for the 49ers in the NFL up to that point.

He did have a beautiful drop back too.
now its all p***y shotgun and run around like a idiot out there. Montana IS how you want to play QB Period. Steve Young is the perfect balance at QB that no one has matched since him. Montana showed though that even the insanely gifted Young still wasnt as great as what a real qb should be like Montana.
What make Montana so good is the footwork that goes right along with his read and progression. Whether naturally or trained and enhanced by Walsh. Joe has great footwork to setup the throws he's going to make. In games when he's shifting around in the pocket, his feet goes right along with what he's seeing down field to prepared for where he's going to throw. Makes him even more accurate than most. He just make it look effortless. And Joe has mobility for a qb. Watching Joe play, I don't think there's a wasted motion during the game. I don't think I've ever seen that in anyone since. Maybe a little in Brady but it's not the same. There's always a sense of purpose to every movement that Joe makes on the field. Uncanny.
Montana worked a LOT on his footwork and mobility in the pocket. It was NOT a natural thing for him although he did have excellent balance and athletic ability.

He was also a very good runner when he came out of ND. Walsh had packages he would put him in to run the ball. When Joe came out, Steve DeBerg was the starter and DeBerg was "less than mobile" and Walsh used Joe in situations where an option to run was a possibility.

Montana would have been just as good today as he was then. I would compare him very favorably to Drew Brees today.
Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Mobility is a stretch, I would say impressive footwork, and drop quickness, is what made him so dangerous in the pocket. Helps when you have Goat Jerry Rice lol

Maybe a little. His 2 SB rings w/o Rice would suggest that his footwork was just fine regardless of the WOs he had. As for what made Montana so perfect was his ability to make the 1st defender miss on his own. Walsh said that of all things, the #1 quality he wanted in the QB was the ability to make the 1st defender miss on his own. That allows you to have less people blocking, and more for catching passes.
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