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Week 2: Thoughts after rewatching the game...

Lets give it up for BOONE! the man was immovable and a wrecking ball in the run. it feels good to finally have that final piece of our O line and they are truly impressing.
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by DVDA:
If Culliver can improve on getting his head turned around on deep balls he'll become a complete corner but right now he isn't very good at it. Teams know this and target him on 1 on 1 deep passes, just like at the end of the Green Bay game. Thankfully he played that pass perfectly. Besides that, he's good enough to start for a lot of teams in the NFL.

Cox was targeted in the GB game

No it was Cully -- Hence the Instagram photo of him screaming.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/auto/0ap2000000060133/Niners-fourth-down-stand


Originally posted by 9erred:
I think TE needs to be addressed in the draft or FA. Their is a local kids from Danville, CA, who is now at Stanford, Zac Ertz, when he comes out the niners should consider him as he is a Coby Fleener clone, and the niners need another TE who can catch the ball.

How about we just draft Fleener...oh...wait. LOL
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9erred:
I think TE needs to be addressed in the draft or FA. Their is a local kids from Danville, CA, who is now at Stanford, Zac Ertz, when he comes out the niners should consider him as he is a Coby Fleener clone, and the niners need another TE who can catch the ball.

How about we just draft Fleener...oh...wait. LOL

Did you guys see Fleener punched one of the DBs in the nuts two times this weekend? Lol
Not sure what ya'll are seeing with Aldon. He's looked like a beast in these last two games.

We have a lot of mouths to feed on defense, he can't get all the sacks.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9erred:
I think TE needs to be addressed in the draft or FA. Their is a local kids from Danville, CA, who is now at Stanford, Zac Ertz, when he comes out the niners should consider him as he is a Coby Fleener clone, and the niners need another TE who can catch the ball.

How about we just draft Fleener...oh...wait. LOL

It's weird that we won't know what we have in Jenkins for probably 1 maybe 2 seasons
First Bowman is better than Willis, now Aldon Smith has lost his explosion. The zone kills me. Whats next, Ray Mac is better than Justin Smith?
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
It's weird that we won't know what we have in Jenkins for probably 1 maybe 2 seasons


Thats usually how it works
Originally posted by DirtyP:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
It's weird that we won't know what we have in Jenkins for probably 1 maybe 2 seasons


Thats usually how it works

I mean at all, we knew Crabtree could be good after the first game. Ditto for Willis. Vernon took a few games, and really was a bust until Singletary sent him to the locker room against the Seahawks. Aldon took a few games to get up to speed. Staley started right away, ditto for A. Davis and Iupati.

So other than Balmer , all of our #1 round picks have been first season contributors. We may not even see Jenkins until season 2, unless we have 2 WR injuries.
Originally posted by WookieOftheYear:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9erred:
I think TE needs to be addressed in the draft or FA. Their is a local kids from Danville, CA, who is now at Stanford, Zac Ertz, when he comes out the niners should consider him as he is a Coby Fleener clone, and the niners need another TE who can catch the ball.

How about we just draft Fleener...oh...wait. LOL

Did you guys see Fleener punched one of the DBs in the nuts two times this weekend? Lol

LMAO! Now THAT'S the kind of Anthony Davis bad-ass attitude you need on offense.

On a serious note, he already has 100+ yards receiving; I still like Jenkins but would wonder how awesome it would be to have Walker as our blocking TE and then just kill teams with VD & Fleener receiving mismatches (esp. in the end zone).
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
I mean at all, we knew Crabtree could be good after the first game. Ditto for Willis. Vernon took a few games, and really was a bust until Singletary sent him to the locker room against the Seahawks. Aldon took a few games to get up to speed. Staley started right away, ditto for A. Davis and Iupati.

So other than Balmer , all of our #1 round picks have been first season contributors. We may not even see Jenkins until season 2, unless we have 2 WR injuries.


Thats because all of those guys got drafted by a team with absolutely no talent at their respective positions so they were on the field immediately. Jenkins got drafted by a team with solid mix of young and veteran talent already on the roster at his position. Thats the difference between drafting as a bottom 5 team and a top 5 team
[ Edited by DirtyP on Sep 17, 2012 at 1:54 PM ]
Originally posted by Marvin49:
I noticed against GB that L. Davis was VERY slow out of his stance. Watch Gores 23 yard run and you'll see Davis on the end and he is the slowest guy out of his stance...by alot. Kilgore is lined up behind him and looks MUCH quicker.

Yep. Big Leonard still has some heavy feet and doesn't use them well to set up his blocks. Situational OG at best, it seems to me.

Originally posted by Shorteous:
There is two major things slowing down Aldon Smith, first he is playing the run/pass. He is no longer operating with the leash off. I think there has been some hesitancy with that that has made him look "slower"

Very nice point here... gotta remember that Aldon can't just pin his ears back all of the time. That said, I expected our DL to get upfield more easily vs the Lions OL... and the GB OL... Not sure if my perceptions simply grew to unfair, enormous levels since last season or what. Rodgers and Stafford often did get the ball out stupid-fast.. (especially Rodgers).. but I wanted to see our fearsome four all over those QBs, and that didn't happen as often as expected.
That's funny, I completely agree. Don't get me wrong, I'm extremely happy we're winning. It's starting to feel like the old days again, where winning also needs to be accompanied by completely humiliating the competition. NINERS!!
Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
3) Aldon Smith: Not so much a criticism as just as a concern. He was a monster against the run last night. Very nice to see that he can play well in that role. What concerns me is that he doesn't seem to have the same explosion as I saw last year. It is very possible tho that it's because he's playing on every down, has more run responsibility, and they are running alot of 3 man rushes. Just something I'll be keeping my eyes on.

Harbaugh and Fangio are asking Aldon to take on far more responsibility this year.

Last year? He was the "sack specialist," the mode of Fred Dean. The coaches wanted him to pin his ears back and rush the passer, which is exactly what he did.

This year, he's got to watch for the run. Plus, I've seen him drop back into coverage once or twice. Plus, the hip pointer still might be bothering him.

In other words: RELAX

I hear you about Delanie though. I'm sure those drops are killing him, just as much as they are killing us.

Yes. I am aware that Aldon is doing more. Thank You for pointing out the obvious. That was why I qualified the statement before and after I made it. I even made YOUR point in my post.

No need to relax as I stated I wasn't making a criticism.

EDIT: Sorry...was a bit harsh there. LOL. Just annoyed by the number of people who act like I just said Aldon was a bust or something. I am well aware of WHY his production may go down, but it is still something to watch for.
[ Edited by Marvin49 on Sep 17, 2012 at 2:11 PM ]
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by DVDA:
If Culliver can improve on getting his head turned around on deep balls he'll become a complete corner but right now he isn't very good at it. Teams know this and target him on 1 on 1 deep passes, just like at the end of the Green Bay game. Thankfully he played that pass perfectly. Besides that, he's good enough to start for a lot of teams in the NFL.

Cox was targeted in the GB game

Already been stated, but you're wrong:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/auto/0ap2000000060133/Niners-fourth-down-stand


Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by DVDA:
If Culliver can improve on getting his head turned around on deep balls he'll become a complete corner but right now he isn't very good at it. Teams know this and target him on 1 on 1 deep passes, just like at the end of the Green Bay game. Thankfully he played that pass perfectly. Besides that, he's good enough to start for a lot of teams in the NFL.

As a rookie he didn't even turn around. He assumed because he had good coverage the ball was not going to be thrown. He got burned by better QBs like Eli and Brees on plays like that for TDs.

This year he is turning around and making a play on the ball.

Next step is to pick them off so no QB would even throw your way.

What I should have said is he was bad last year. Since we've only seen two games this year it's a bit early to judge, but up to this point he has been very promising. Hopefully he continues to grow into the corner he is capable of being.