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SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS VS MINNESOTA VIKINGS GAMEDAY THREAD (Week 3)

Originally posted by Born49R:
Originally posted by SFL49ER:
Alex f**king sucks. And this comes from an Alex supporter.

, sorry, he just does.

and Gore fumbled and the defense gave up all those points and the Staley really did suck but you still blame Smith. Priceless, I'm not even a Smith supporter but I do know what I see on the field.
It was definitely a collective effort to turn in this s**t game, but it was terrible ball placement on many drives, with terrible decisions to pass 5 yards downfield when we needed nine. among other things.

where is his deep ball? You tell me where its at.
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
24/35 with one TD and one Int.81 QBR. So while Smith did not play well and missed Moss for a likely TD, the play calling, drop on 3rd down, D giving up over 150 yards rushing...many reasons for this loss. The Vikes were jazzed, they were at home, they were playing the #1 team in the NFL and their QB was really impressive. The 9ers had just beaten two of their major rivals, traveled and played at 10AM, and looked like they were narcoleptic.

Put this one in the past and look forward to next week! Still will likely be among the Super Bowl favorites.

The defense lost this. We couldn't get them off the field. Three 80 + yard drives.
Originally posted by MasterChef:
none of you were alive for that sh*t

Wrong.
Originally posted by MasterChef:
none of you were alive for that sh*t

Lies.
What are you guys talking about? Who is this master chef guy?
Originally posted by MasterChef:
Did he play in this game today?
So I rewatched the game and I think this game is going to help the 49ers. The Vikings did a bunch of things right, but so did our boys. Our game plan on defense was to stay in our base formation but almost play a bear-like defense to cover the edges. The weakness is if AP ever reached the second level, he would be running in the open field. Our 3-4 was awesome against the run in this game. This is probably the best Aldon Smith has ever set the edge that I have seen. AP never reached the second level and Ike and Justin Smith were so physical in this game. Also, Kyle Williams has good vision and did a great job on returns, and our Special Teams blocked well and were very aware of what happened during the returns and also covering Harvin. This is where the good ends. The single biggest goat in this game has to be Tarell Brown, followed closely by the coaching staff. I say coaching staff because Harbaugh and Roman collectively were outcoached. Harbaugh was very conservative on his game management. I thought with the exception of Tarell Brown, the defense actually played pretty awesome. 2 things contributed to the score and yards; 1. The Vikings should never have been past the 40 yard line on the last td, and then Rudolph blatantly held Whitner, and 2. (and more importantly), we had zero pass rush this game. Fangio seems to teach the defense not to over pursue the qb, which usually is fine, but every single time pressure was put on Ponder he either a - ran or b - made a bad decision. Even his 3rd down pass in the first quarter was a bad decision. He was ok because it was an outstanding throw and Aromashodu sat down in the hole in the zone. I really thought Fangio was going to blitz him to death in the 2nd half, and I'll bet when he watches this tape he'll wish he had. Also, Ponder played really, really well. Christian Ponder and Alex Smith are similar qbs in their skill set with the only difference being that Ponder seems to embrace his athleticism. If you watched the game, then you know that Minnesota's O-line pass blocked outstanding. Every time a passing lane shut down, Ponder could step up or traverse and still not be in danger. Alex has a bunch of that as well, but he is always looking downfield. That is a great instinct for a QB to have, but the problem is that most qbs look 10-20 yds downfield and Alex's first read every time when he gets in trouble seems to be the flat. Alex Smith is a major reason we struggled today, but not because of his fumble and interception. Greg Roman gave him very limited opportunities to make plays today, and then he didn't attempt to make plays. He always took the high percentage play. The three and out after Williams long return was one of the worst instances of squandering a momentum-changing opportunity I have ever seen in a football game, and I'm including high school and college. Minnesota's crowd was a factor and Harbaugh twice had a chance to punch the crowd in the mouth on 4th and 1 and both times he kicked. One of those kicks was blocked. This was a terrible game in terms of pure game management. Let's talk about Tarell Brown. I don't think anyone realizes how poorly he played today. The scores weren't blatant, so it wasn't commented on, but he made the Tramaine Brock of preseason look like Darrelle Revis. He was consistently out of position on his responsibilities and he was also getting out ran. Our secondary was tired in this game and Brown should have been benched. He single-handedly gave the Vikings multiple third and longs, and Ponder knew it. The play where Carlos Rogers tripped on the press bump was what Brown looked like all day, just 2 steps behind chasing his man. The refs really affected this game in favor of the Vikings. The two calls on the last Vikings TD were unbelievably bad. But they weren't nearly as bad as Roman's playcalling with 6 minutes left in the game. Crabtree was open in the flats a bunch, and if he drops a pass there, at least the clock stops. Instead he is just feeding it to Gore when the 49ers needed to pick up chunks. Chunks of points and chunks of yards. I believe this was one of the worst games I've seen Alex play and I have always been a supporter of his. To sum all of this up I believe Harbaugh and Roman have a few decisions to make in game management but only one in personnel. T. Brown needed benched at halftime. My question is only this; If they are going to show this type of lack of faith in Alex Smith when we are behind, why not sit him so he doesn't get hurt? They clearly weren't going to allow him to take his shots down the field. It was almost as if they had conceded at the beginning of the fourth quarter that this game was over. I truly don't have any other explanation for what can only be an absolutely head-scratching game plan. I also disagree with everyone that is mad we passed the ball at the beginning of the game. Maybe Harbaugh and Roman thought this was as good of an opportunity as they were going to have to get the passing game going while playing a beatable team. The only problem is that maybe they should have adjusted sooner, once they figured out they were in a dog-fight. Anyway, I want to reiterate one more time, our defense played pretty badass in this game and they were victimized by some bad officiating, and also some really poor play by Tarell Brown. Moreover, if Fangio goes after Ponder more in the second half, I think he turns the ball over. Anyway, I know many of you probably don't care, but I wanted to give an unbiased, unemotional take on this after rewatching. The Minnesota Vikings played great football today, and they deserved to win. I think this is a wake up call. I don't believe in wake up calls being a good thing, but in this case, I hope it is. Anyone reading this, if you rewatch the game, take a look at Tarell Brown and I think you will understand why he is fixing to take up seat numero uno in Jim Harbaugh and Vic Fangio's doghouse this week. I hope Sopoaga is ok. He was so great today.
Originally posted by MasterChef:
none of you were alive for that sh*t

I was alive and watching it. And I suggest you ease up.
Originally posted by welvisdogger:
So I rewatched the game and I think this game is going to help the 49ers. The Vikings did a bunch of things right, but so did our boys. Our game plan on defense was to stay in our base formation but almost play a bear-like defense to cover the edges. The weakness is if AP ever reached the second level, he would be running in the open field. Our 3-4 was awesome against the run in this game. This is probably the best Aldon Smith has ever set the edge that I have seen. AP never reached the second level and Ike and Justin Smith were so physical in this game. Also, Kyle Williams has good vision and did a great job on returns, and our Special Teams blocked well and were very aware of what happened during the returns and also covering Harvin. This is where the good ends. The single biggest goat in this game has to be Tarell Brown, followed closely by the coaching staff. I say coaching staff because Harbaugh and Roman collectively were outcoached. Harbaugh was very conservative on his game management. I thought with the exception of Tarell Brown, the defense actually played pretty awesome. 2 things contributed to the score and yards; 1. The Vikings should never have been past the 40 yard line on the last td, and then Rudolph blatantly held Whitner, and 2. (and more importantly), we had zero pass rush this game. Fangio seems to teach the defense not to over pursue the qb, which usually is fine, but every single time pressure was put on Ponder he either a - ran or b - made a bad decision. Even his 3rd down pass in the first quarter was a bad decision. He was ok because it was an outstanding throw and Aromashodu sat down in the hole in the zone. I really thought Fangio was going to blitz him to death in the 2nd half, and I'll bet when he watches this tape he'll wish he had. Also, Ponder played really, really well. Christian Ponder and Alex Smith are similar qbs in their skill set with the only difference being that Ponder seems to embrace his athleticism. If you watched the game, then you know that Minnesota's O-line pass blocked outstanding. Every time a passing lane shut down, Ponder could step up or traverse and still not be in danger. Alex has a bunch of that as well, but he is always looking downfield. That is a great instinct for a QB to have, but the problem is that most qbs look 10-20 yds downfield and Alex's first read every time when he gets in trouble seems to be the flat. Alex Smith is a major reason we struggled today, but not because of his fumble and interception. Greg Roman gave him very limited opportunities to make plays today, and then he didn't attempt to make plays. He always took the high percentage play. The three and out after Williams long return was one of the worst instances of squandering a momentum-changing opportunity I have ever seen in a football game, and I'm including high school and college. Minnesota's crowd was a factor and Harbaugh twice had a chance to punch the crowd in the mouth on 4th and 1 and both times he kicked. One of those kicks was blocked. This was a terrible game in terms of pure game management. Let's talk about Tarell Brown. I don't think anyone realizes how poorly he played today. The scores weren't blatant, so it wasn't commented on, but he made the Tramaine Brock of preseason look like Darrelle Revis. He was consistently out of position on his responsibilities and he was also getting out ran. Our secondary was tired in this game and Brown should have been benched. He single-handedly gave the Vikings multiple third and longs, and Ponder knew it. The play where Carlos Rogers tripped on the press bump was what Brown looked like all day, just 2 steps behind chasing his man. The refs really affected this game in favor of the Vikings. The two calls on the last Vikings TD were unbelievably bad. But they weren't nearly as bad as Roman's playcalling with 6 minutes left in the game. Crabtree was open in the flats a bunch, and if he drops a pass there, at least the clock stops. Instead he is just feeding it to Gore when the 49ers needed to pick up chunks. Chunks of points and chunks of yards. I believe this was one of the worst games I've seen Alex play and I have always been a supporter of his. To sum all of this up I believe Harbaugh and Roman have a few decisions to make in game management but only one in personnel. T. Brown needed benched at halftime. My question is only this; If they are going to show this type of lack of faith in Alex Smith when we are behind, why not sit him so he doesn't get hurt? They clearly weren't going to allow him to take his shots down the field. It was almost as if they had conceded at the beginning of the fourth quarter that this game was over. I truly don't have any other explanation for what can only be an absolutely head-scratching game plan. I also disagree with everyone that is mad we passed the ball at the beginning of the game. Maybe Harbaugh and Roman thought this was as good of an opportunity as they were going to have to get the passing game going while playing a beatable team. The only problem is that maybe they should have adjusted sooner, once they figured out they were in a dog-fight. Anyway, I want to reiterate one more time, our defense played pretty badass in this game and they were victimized by some bad officiating, and also some really poor play by Tarell Brown. Moreover, if Fangio goes after Ponder more in the second half, I think he turns the ball over. Anyway, I know many of you probably don't care, but I wanted to give an unbiased, unemotional take on this after rewatching. The Minnesota Vikings played great football today, and they deserved to win. I think this is a wake up call. I don't believe in wake up calls being a good thing, but in this case, I hope it is. Anyone reading this, if you rewatch the game, take a look at Tarell Brown and I think you will understand why he is fixing to take up seat numero uno in Jim Harbaugh and Vic Fangio's doghouse this week. I hope Sopoaga is ok. He was so great today.


didnt read lol.
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by MasterChef:
none of you were alive for that sh*t

I was alive and watching it. And I suggest you ease up.

Just ban him. No need to wait.
Originally posted by welvisdogger:
So I rewatched the game and I think this game is going to help the 49ers. The Vikings did a bunch of things right, but so did our boys. Our game plan on defense was to stay in our base formation but almost play a bear-like defense to cover the edges. The weakness is if AP ever reached the second level, he would be running in the open field. Our 3-4 was awesome against the run in this game. This is probably the best Aldon Smith has ever set the edge that I have seen. AP never reached the second level and Ike and Justin Smith were so physical in this game. Also, Kyle Williams has good vision and did a great job on returns, and our Special Teams blocked well and were very aware of what happened during the returns and also covering Harvin. This is where the good ends. The single biggest goat in this game has to be Tarell Brown, followed closely by the coaching staff. I say coaching staff because Harbaugh and Roman collectively were outcoached. Harbaugh was very conservative on his game management. I thought with the exception of Tarell Brown, the defense actually played pretty awesome. 2 things contributed to the score and yards; 1. The Vikings should never have been past the 40 yard line on the last td, and then Rudolph blatantly held Whitner, and 2. (and more importantly), we had zero pass rush this game. Fangio seems to teach the defense not to over pursue the qb, which usually is fine, but every single time pressure was put on Ponder he either a - ran or b - made a bad decision. Even his 3rd down pass in the first quarter was a bad decision. He was ok because it was an outstanding throw and Aromashodu sat down in the hole in the zone. I really thought Fangio was going to blitz him to death in the 2nd half, and I'll bet when he watches this tape he'll wish he had. Also, Ponder played really, really well. Christian Ponder and Alex Smith are similar qbs in their skill set with the only difference being that Ponder seems to embrace his athleticism. If you watched the game, then you know that Minnesota's O-line pass blocked outstanding. Every time a passing lane shut down, Ponder could step up or traverse and still not be in danger. Alex has a bunch of that as well, but he is always looking downfield. That is a great instinct for a QB to have, but the problem is that most qbs look 10-20 yds downfield and Alex's first read every time when he gets in trouble seems to be the flat. Alex Smith is a major reason we struggled today, but not because of his fumble and interception. Greg Roman gave him very limited opportunities to make plays today, and then he didn't attempt to make plays. He always took the high percentage play. The three and out after Williams long return was one of the worst instances of squandering a momentum-changing opportunity I have ever seen in a football game, and I'm including high school and college. Minnesota's crowd was a factor and Harbaugh twice had a chance to punch the crowd in the mouth on 4th and 1 and both times he kicked. One of those kicks was blocked. This was a terrible game in terms of pure game management. Let's talk about Tarell Brown. I don't think anyone realizes how poorly he played today. The scores weren't blatant, so it wasn't commented on, but he made the Tramaine Brock of preseason look like Darrelle Revis. He was consistently out of position on his responsibilities and he was also getting out ran. Our secondary was tired in this game and Brown should have been benched. He single-handedly gave the Vikings multiple third and longs, and Ponder knew it. The play where Carlos Rogers tripped on the press bump was what Brown looked like all day, just 2 steps behind chasing his man. The refs really affected this game in favor of the Vikings. The two calls on the last Vikings TD were unbelievably bad. But they weren't nearly as bad as Roman's playcalling with 6 minutes left in the game. Crabtree was open in the flats a bunch, and if he drops a pass there, at least the clock stops. Instead he is just feeding it to Gore when the 49ers needed to pick up chunks. Chunks of points and chunks of yards. I believe this was one of the worst games I've seen Alex play and I have always been a supporter of his. To sum all of this up I believe Harbaugh and Roman have a few decisions to make in game management but only one in personnel. T. Brown needed benched at halftime. My question is only this; If they are going to show this type of lack of faith in Alex Smith when we are behind, why not sit him so he doesn't get hurt? They clearly weren't going to allow him to take his shots down the field. It was almost as if they had conceded at the beginning of the fourth quarter that this game was over. I truly don't have any other explanation for what can only be an absolutely head-scratching game plan. I also disagree with everyone that is mad we passed the ball at the beginning of the game. Maybe Harbaugh and Roman thought this was as good of an opportunity as they were going to have to get the passing game going while playing a beatable team. The only problem is that maybe they should have adjusted sooner, once they figured out they were in a dog-fight. Anyway, I want to reiterate one more time, our defense played pretty badass in this game and they were victimized by some bad officiating, and also some really poor play by Tarell Brown. Moreover, if Fangio goes after Ponder more in the second half, I think he turns the ball over. Anyway, I know many of you probably don't care, but I wanted to give an unbiased, unemotional take on this after rewatching. The Minnesota Vikings played great football today, and they deserved to win. I think this is a wake up call. I don't believe in wake up calls being a good thing, but in this case, I hope it is. Anyone reading this, if you rewatch the game, take a look at Tarell Brown and I think you will understand why he is fixing to take up seat numero uno in Jim Harbaugh and Vic Fangio's doghouse this week. I hope Sopoaga is ok. He was so great today.


You could watch this game twice?
Originally posted by welvisdogger:
So I rewatched the game and I think this game is going to help the 49ers. The Vikings did a bunch of things right, but so did our boys. Our game plan on defense was to stay in our base formation but almost play a bear-like defense to cover the edges. The weakness is if AP ever reached the second level, he would be running in the open field. Our 3-4 was awesome against the run in this game. This is probably the best Aldon Smith has ever set the edge that I have seen. AP never reached the second level and Ike and Justin Smith were so physical in this game. Also, Kyle Williams has good vision and did a great job on returns, and our Special Teams blocked well and were very aware of what happened during the returns and also covering Harvin. This is where the good ends. The single biggest goat in this game has to be Tarell Brown, followed closely by the coaching staff. I say coaching staff because Harbaugh and Roman collectively were outcoached. Harbaugh was very conservative on his game management. I thought with the exception of Tarell Brown, the defense actually played pretty awesome. 2 things contributed to the score and yards; 1. The Vikings should never have been past the 40 yard line on the last td, and then Rudolph blatantly held Whitner, and 2. (and more importantly), we had zero pass rush this game. Fangio seems to teach the defense not to over pursue the qb, which usually is fine, but every single time pressure was put on Ponder he either a - ran or b - made a bad decision. Even his 3rd down pass in the first quarter was a bad decision. He was ok because it was an outstanding throw and Aromashodu sat down in the hole in the zone. I really thought Fangio was going to blitz him to death in the 2nd half, and I'll bet when he watches this tape he'll wish he had. Also, Ponder played really, really well. Christian Ponder and Alex Smith are similar qbs in their skill set with the only difference being that Ponder seems to embrace his athleticism. If you watched the game, then you know that Minnesota's O-line pass blocked outstanding. Every time a passing lane shut down, Ponder could step up or traverse and still not be in danger. Alex has a bunch of that as well, but he is always looking downfield. That is a great instinct for a QB to have, but the problem is that most qbs look 10-20 yds downfield and Alex's first read every time when he gets in trouble seems to be the flat. Alex Smith is a major reason we struggled today, but not because of his fumble and interception. Greg Roman gave him very limited opportunities to make plays today, and then he didn't attempt to make plays. He always took the high percentage play. The three and out after Williams long return was one of the worst instances of squandering a momentum-changing opportunity I have ever seen in a football game, and I'm including high school and college. Minnesota's crowd was a factor and Harbaugh twice had a chance to punch the crowd in the mouth on 4th and 1 and both times he kicked. One of those kicks was blocked. This was a terrible game in terms of pure game management. Let's talk about Tarell Brown. I don't think anyone realizes how poorly he played today. The scores weren't blatant, so it wasn't commented on, but he made the Tramaine Brock of preseason look like Darrelle Revis. He was consistently out of position on his responsibilities and he was also getting out ran. Our secondary was tired in this game and Brown should have been benched. He single-handedly gave the Vikings multiple third and longs, and Ponder knew it. The play where Carlos Rogers tripped on the press bump was what Brown looked like all day, just 2 steps behind chasing his man. The refs really affected this game in favor of the Vikings. The two calls on the last Vikings TD were unbelievably bad. But they weren't nearly as bad as Roman's playcalling with 6 minutes left in the game. Crabtree was open in the flats a bunch, and if he drops a pass there, at least the clock stops. Instead he is just feeding it to Gore when the 49ers needed to pick up chunks. Chunks of points and chunks of yards. I believe this was one of the worst games I've seen Alex play and I have always been a supporter of his. To sum all of this up I believe Harbaugh and Roman have a few decisions to make in game management but only one in personnel. T. Brown needed benched at halftime. My question is only this; If they are going to show this type of lack of faith in Alex Smith when we are behind, why not sit him so he doesn't get hurt? They clearly weren't going to allow him to take his shots down the field. It was almost as if they had conceded at the beginning of the fourth quarter that this game was over. I truly don't have any other explanation for what can only be an absolutely head-scratching game plan. I also disagree with everyone that is mad we passed the ball at the beginning of the game. Maybe Harbaugh and Roman thought this was as good of an opportunity as they were going to have to get the passing game going while playing a beatable team. The only problem is that maybe they should have adjusted sooner, once they figured out they were in a dog-fight. Anyway, I want to reiterate one more time, our defense played pretty badass in this game and they were victimized by some bad officiating, and also some really poor play by Tarell Brown. Moreover, if Fangio goes after Ponder more in the second half, I think he turns the ball over. Anyway, I know many of you probably don't care, but I wanted to give an unbiased, unemotional take on this after rewatching. The Minnesota Vikings played great football today, and they deserved to win. I think this is a wake up call. I don't believe in wake up calls being a good thing, but in this case, I hope it is. Anyone reading this, if you rewatch the game, take a look at Tarell Brown and I think you will understand why he is fixing to take up seat numero uno in Jim Harbaugh and Vic Fangio's doghouse this week. I hope Sopoaga is ok. He was so great today.


You could watch this game twice?
Originally posted by niners94:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by MasterChef:
none of you were alive for that sh*t

I was alive and watching it. And I suggest you ease up.

Just ban him. No need to wait.

I agree.

Lagging my s**t up with all these pictures.