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I know its knitpicking and I know we are still coming down off that big win, but a telling stat from that game bothers me. Because it kind of bit us last year in a major way. Right now our Offense is ranked 13th I believe, that BS after just 1 game. But we were 2 for 9 on 3rd downs. 22%. Im just putting it out there to get your comments and to bring light to it (like the coaching staff dont know).. I want all holes closed on this championship run...
someone broke it down

a lot of those were in 2nd half just running down the clock some were on 3rd and short which jacobs will fix not an immeadiete wory imo
but we only had 9 3rds downs because of our efficiency on 1st and 2nd down.


The Devil's in the details
Offensive rank is based on total offense...which after one game is just about the most meaningless stat on the board.
Alex still can't convert third downs.
  • rserda
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Originally posted by susweel:
Alex still can't convert third downs.

Especially when he's handing the ball off to Gore/Hunter! Cut that bum!
I agree. They need to improve. There really isn't any 3rd down that they were trying to just run some clock. Maybe the last one. But the Niners had only 11 third down plays. They were very efficient on 1st and 2nd down.

3rd downs in the game:

1st:
13:40 left... 3rd and 2... Alex got sacked (0 for 1)
5:00 left... 3rd and 4.... Alex throws incomplete to Walker. The throw could of been better, but Walker still could of caught it (0 for 2)

2nd:
15:00 left... 3rd and 3... DPI on Bush (0 for 2)
2:47 left... 3rd and 5... Smith rolled to his right threw for Davis... Holding on Woodson (0 for 2)
1:03 left... 3rd and 1... Gore loses a yard (0 for 3)

3rd:
12:18 left... 3rd and 8... Alex Smith pass to Crabtree and with Crabtree's run he picks up 20 (1 for 4)
8:20 left.... 3rd and Goal... Alex Smith 4 yard TD pass to Vernon Davis (2 for 5)
1:37 left.... 3rd and 5.... Alex Smith completed pass to Crabtree for 4 yards (2 for 6)

4th:
12:18 left... 3rd and 12... draw play to Gore for 5 yards (2 for 7)
9:54 left... 3rd and 2... swing pass to Gore for one yard. Harbaugh challenged the spot and lost (2 for 8)
3:56 left... 3rd and 17... Smith scrambled for 5 yards...
Originally posted by rserda:
Originally posted by susweel:
Alex still can't convert third downs.

Especially when he's handing the ball off to Gore/Hunter! Cut that bum!

haha yah he's not handing the ball off correctly
Sacks. Alex needs to help his OL by moving to the right spot rather than stepping right into the rush or just standing there. There were times when he couldn't do anything but he took 2 unnecessary sacks.

Cox needs to play better if he's going to be our Dime guy, especially his tackling.

Aldon, keep your helmet on!!!

No more 3-man rush unless we are up by 21, even then, don't do it.

3rd downs: We only ran 2 of the 10 plays listed above. 3rd downs are play making downs. If Alex is playing it safe, then he's not a play maker. Not sure what to do here...have a feeling we will continue to struggle on this one.
Alex won't force sh*t unless he has to. This has generally worked well for us, no? A win is a win is a win.. no?
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Alex won't force sh*t unless he has to. This has generally worked well for us, no? A win is a win is a win.. no?

But...but...but...he is screwing up my fantasy stats.
Originally posted by JoeisGod:
But...but...but...he is screwing up my fantasy stats.

That's about it. The only real con to Alex's game.
Originally posted by cashmahne:
I agree. They need to improve. There really isn't any 3rd down that they were trying to just run some clock. Maybe the last one. But the Niners had only 11 third down plays. They were very efficient on 1st and 2nd down.

3rd downs in the game:

1st:
13:40 left... 3rd and 2... Alex got sacked (0 for 1)
5:00 left... 3rd and 4.... Alex throws incomplete to Walker. The throw could of been better, but Walker still could of caught it (0 for 2)

2nd:
15:00 left... 3rd and 3... DPI on Bush (0 for 2)
2:47 left... 3rd and 5... Smith rolled to his right threw for Davis... Holding on Woodson (0 for 2)
1:03 left... 3rd and 1... Gore loses a yard (0 for 3)

3rd:
12:18 left... 3rd and 8... Alex Smith pass to Crabtree and with Crabtree's run he picks up 20 (1 for 4)
8:20 left.... 3rd and Goal... Alex Smith 4 yard TD pass to Vernon Davis (2 for 5)
1:37 left.... 3rd and 5.... Alex Smith completed pass to Crabtree for 4 yards (2 for 6)

4th:
12:18 left... 3rd and 12... draw play to Gore for 5 yards (2 for 7)
9:54 left... 3rd and 2... swing pass to Gore for one yard. Harbaugh challenged the spot and lost (2 for 8)
3:56 left... 3rd and 17... Smith scrambled for 5 yards...

grwat breakdown

it seems like passing wise alex did good in 3rd down holding and PI doesnt show in stats as conversions but they defintially wouldve been converted

the running ones (more of early ones than late where we tried to just kill clock rather than convert) will be improved with jacobs

like i said not a problem