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Niners to sign Clark Haggans

A guy that has stuck around this league this long and started all of last year is bound to know what he is doing
[ Edited by Pillbusta on Sep 4, 2012 at 1:41 AM ]
As a #4 I was going to say Alama-Francis would be my 1st choice but look at his stats. I know stats don't tell the whole story but 1 sack in 5 years is not good.
http://www.nfl.com/player/ikaikaalama-francis/2507178/profile
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
A guy that has stuck around this league this long and started all of last year is bound to know what he is doing
Yeah, guy was pretty good with the Steelers and then the Cardinals so he is familiar with the 3-4. Question is how much does he have left in the tank? I think we will be ok but next year we definitely need to find a couple of pass rushing OLBs
They gotta be able to do better than this. Bump up a practice squad guy. Or raid somebody elses practice squad. Bring back some of the cut OLB's. I knew this OLB thing was going to hurt them. Kept 3. And one already hurt. So we are down to 2 with 1 old guy. This could potentially effect our defense big time....
has it been mentioned why this guy? Wouldnt a younger, faster player be a better fit? I think the team went with a more seasoned vet like a Takeo whos seen it all and has been different systems than a rookie or younger player.
We are fine on LB, if we have any injuries we have Dobbs, and Miller who can fill in for LB in a pinch, There is also Gooden and Grant. There is no need to panic.
Originally posted by Gore_21:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
A guy that has stuck around this league this long and started all of last year is bound to know what he is doing
Yeah, guy was pretty good with the Steelers and then the Cardinals so he is familiar with the 3-4. Question is how much does he have left in the tank? I think we will be ok but next year we definitely need to find a couple of pass rushing OLBs

Lol pass rushing OLBs? Brooks and Aldon are what exactly?
If they can squeeze one more decent season of good play from Haggans, the dude might just be one of the luckiest SOB. To go from being released by the Cards--you don't want to be with the Cards this year with their qb situation-- to help a SB contender win a SB. With Spike still playing at 35 I think Haggans can do it too. The injury to Haralson might end up being a good thing. Haggans' play might end up being better than Parys. And I think it might get Aldon more focused in learning the position faster to help the team. Because now there's urgency without Haralson.
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Sep 4, 2012 at 5:35 AM ]
So...Smith, Brooks, Haggans?
I think we still need one more OLB. How is Cam Johnson so far with the injury...
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Originally posted by jrg:
So...Smith, Brooks, Haggans?

Dobbs... Miller?
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
I think we still need one more OLB. How is Cam Johnson so far with the injury...

He didn't look ready to me. I don't think he can hold point against the run.
We really need to look at the two OLB positions as being very different (SAM & WILL). Haggans is a solid veteran who would spell mostly Aldon's WILL spot (80% pass rush from the blind side next to Justin Smith). He's a seasoned veteran and he won't be playing that many snaps but enough to keep Aldon fresh throughout the year. Clark is a veteran and will understand where/when to drop back in zones and with Justin, Brown and Willis on that side, I'm not too worried about run defense with him in there.

Now, the SAM side? This worries me. This is the strong side and there are two-times the responsibilities on this side. This position is equally challenged between dropping back in zone (b/c this is the side the TE/FB's typically line up and where runs are made off tackle). Therefore, whoever is playing this side will have to know when to drop back in zone, when to cover a TE underneath and on the outside, when to push his man upfield and seal the edge and when to pass rush from the QB's sightline. To me, Haralson would have filled the run-stuffing duties decently but he is worthless in coverage and in pass rushing and sometimes he can be beat by faster backs on the edges b/c he can't push his blocker upfield far enough.

So who do we turn to for the SAM? Dobbs seems like a guy who can get some penetration and who is stout against the run. But he's been playing RDE/WILL all off season and I don't know if he could handle the SAM position yet. Cam? Same thing...raw skill set but if Brooks goes down, I'm worried b/c we may have to shift our entire defensive game plan.

This isn't Madden where you can just plug in any dude.
Originally posted by NCommand:

This isn't Madden where you can just plug in any dude.

Nice overall post. For the SOLB, I must say that I was impressed with Bakhtiari when it came to the strongside run anchoring, but also impressed with his ability and knowledge of where to drop in zone or man coverages. Still think he would be a wise choice as SOLB backup... but perhaps Fangio sees this differently than I do.
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Originally posted by modninerfan:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by modninerfan:
I'd bring back Alama-Francis

In two games he did get some pretty good pressure, and no I'm not saying this cause hes from Hawaii, but if you've watch the games he did get good pressure.

If he were a starter I don't think he'd get more than 3-4 sacks in a season... But he has some pass rush skills, better than Rowe I think, I think he's a better run stopper than LaBoy, and just overall enough experience to be a solid 1-2 year backup

Agreed, a solid bench player and situational pass rusher. It just doesn't make sense to me that they signed a player that could be possibly suspended the first 3 games. Haggans hasn't even been with the team this off-season, at least Rowe, Bahktiari and Alama-Francis have been.
none of the Jh bathwater drinkers want to touch this,,, they are f**king stupid and arrogant to sign someone who may be suspended for the first three games when they KNEW they were putting someone on injured reserve, they are arrogant just to assume this hearing will go our way tomorrow. fine if it does we still need an outside backer in my opinion and if you ask JH if smith and brooks are 100 per cent for sunday you will get some sort of babbling and he will talk about how he likes the taste of the brooks's blood.