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49ers Wide Receiver Assessment

It is only OTA and not TC and preseason yet. However, what is your assessment of the wide outs?

We all hear how Moss has been looking real smooth, like he hasn't lost a beat. The one that has a lot of people's contempt, K Williams has been looking real good and smooth.

Even a no name like Tyms has been getting attention. Tyms along with Chris Owusu, have a good chance at ousting Hastings and Swain from the practice squad who seem to be silent. Of course fingers crossed that they get though the off season and pre intact.

What are you guys that have gotten to take a peek in person think?
Right now these are my 5 guys I would go with in order.

1- Randy Moss
2- Michael Crabtree
3- Mario Manningham
4- A.J. Jenkins
5- Ted Ginn Jr.

Practice Squaders- Nathan Palmer and Chris Owusu
inb4 its been a long off season comments.
It dont matter about it being a long off season, We can only talk about whats going on NOW!!!
I think we carry six since ginn doesnt really count.

Moss
Manningham
Crabtree
Williams
Jenkins
Ginn.

Owusu to the squad.
Crabtree
Manningham
Moss
Williams
Jenkins
Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
I think we carry six since ginn doesnt really count.

Moss
Manningham
Crabtree
Williams
Jenkins
Ginn.

Owusu to the squad.

I agree. Even though williams f**ked up, he's still a talented slot reciever and great depth for our team. plus im sure hes motivated!
Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
I think we carry six since ginn doesnt really count.

Moss
Manningham
Crabtree
Williams
Jenkins
Ginn.

Owusu to the squad.

This, but move Crabtree to the top.
moss
crabtree
mario manningham
Williams
AJ jenkins
ginnn

on 3 WR packages crabtree moves to the slot position whhile moss and mario are outside otherwise moss and crabs will be on outside in 2 WR sets
Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
I think we carry six since ginn doesnt really count.

Moss
Manningham
Crabtree
Williams
Jenkins
Ginn.

Owusu to the squad.

this
[ Edited by WookieOftheYear on Jun 15, 2012 at 6:53 AM ]
Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
I think we carry six since ginn doesnt really count.

Moss
Manningham
Crabtree
Williams
Jenkins
Ginn.

Owusu to the squad.


Would add Palmer to the PS as well and Cratree above Manningham. The good news is that this group is so much more experienced in winning than last years group. Both Manningham and Moss have been on Super teams (Moss wants to win a ring!).

Randy Moss Says..."I don't want records. I want a Super Bowl ring."
In terms of statistical production, I think this is how it will turn out.

1- Michael Crabtree: If he has finally worked on his speed and chemistry, then he has the most tools of all our WR's. (88 rec 1000 yds)
2. Vernon Davis: He's going to bust out on yards per reception this year with Moss being able to open the field up: (68 rec 1000yds)
3- Mario Manningham/Moss: These 2 are the deep threats and may both have similar stats (around 600 yards a peice but Moss may be in double digit TDs)
4- Kyle Williams: He will have around 400 yards but they will be critical downs/move the chain yards. I don't think there's a defense that can cover this guy under 10 yards.
5- AJ Jenkins: He will get around 300 but mostly late in the year with a little specialist duty prior to then.


I guess this means Alex throws for around 3900 which is reasonable in this offense.
[ Edited by Joecool on Jun 15, 2012 at 9:37 AM ]
Originally posted by Joecool:
In terms of statistical production, I think this is how it will turn out.

1- Michael Crabtree: If he has finally worked on his speed and chemistry, then he has the most tools of all our WR's. (88 rec 1000 yds)
2. Vernon Davis: He's going to bust out on yards per reception this year with Moss being able to open the field up: (68 rec 1000yds)
3- Mario Manningham/Moss: These 2 are the deep threats and may both have similar stats (around 600 yards a peice but Moss may be in double digit TDs)
4- Kyle Williams: He will have around 400 yards but they will be critical downs/move the chain yards. I don't think there's a defense that can cover this guy under 10 yards.
5- AJ Jenkins: He will get around 300 but mostly late in the year with a little specialist duty prior to then.


I guess this means Alex throws for around 3900 which is reasonable in this offense.

I think your numbers are off slightly (although I agree with order and what not). Reason I say that your numbers are off is because you didnt give any yards to Delanie or any of our running backs. Assuming that all the running backs and Delanie (and hell maybe a few offensive linemen plays), get around 400 yards receiving, that puts Alex at 4300. Not saying it CANT happen...just dont think it will.
Originally posted by Joecool:
In terms of statistical production, I think this is how it will turn out.

1- Michael Crabtree: If he has finally worked on his speed and chemistry, then he has the most tools of all our WR's. (88 rec 1000 yds)
2. Vernon Davis: He's going to bust out on yards per reception this year with Moss being able to open the field up: (68 rec 1000yds)
3- Mario Manningham/Moss: These 2 are the deep threats and may both have similar stats (around 600 yards a peice but Moss may be in double digit TDs)
4- Kyle Williams: He will have around 400 yards but they will be critical downs/move the chain yards. I don't think there's a defense that can cover this guy under 10 yards.
5- AJ Jenkins: He will get around 300 but mostly late in the year with a little specialist duty prior to then.


I guess this means Alex throws for around 3900 which is reasonable in this offense.

Cant forget about the check down.
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
Originally posted by Joecool:
In terms of statistical production, I think this is how it will turn out.

1- Michael Crabtree: If he has finally worked on his speed and chemistry, then he has the most tools of all our WR's. (88 rec 1000 yds)
2. Vernon Davis: He's going to bust out on yards per reception this year with Moss being able to open the field up: (68 rec 1000yds)
3- Mario Manningham/Moss: These 2 are the deep threats and may both have similar stats (around 600 yards a peice but Moss may be in double digit TDs)
4- Kyle Williams: He will have around 400 yards but they will be critical downs/move the chain yards. I don't think there's a defense that can cover this guy under 10 yards.
5- AJ Jenkins: He will get around 300 but mostly late in the year with a little specialist duty prior to then.


I guess this means Alex throws for around 3900 which is reasonable in this offense.

I think your numbers are off slightly (although I agree with order and what not). Reason I say that your numbers are off is because you didnt give any yards to Delanie or any of our running backs. Assuming that all the running backs and Delanie (and hell maybe a few offensive linemen plays), get around 400 yards receiving, that puts Alex at 4300. Not saying it CANT happen...just dont think it will.

For sure, he may just throw for 4000 and Delanie may get around his usual 200 but I wanted to focus more on the major threats.The total yards by VD and MC may be lower a second year in the system may allow for even more balance.
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