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Make Dashon Goldson the highest paid safety in the league?

Make Dashon Goldson the highest paid safety in the league?

Originally posted by Gore_21:
Correct, I believe he can sign the 1 year deal any time he wants from now all the way into the season. Not sure if there is a deadline when he has to sign it by. Aubrayo Franklin a few years back waited until August 28 (a few weeks into pre season). I believe he felt the longer he waited the less chance there was of him getting hurt in training camp or the pre season.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5507622

Maybe AB could help us but Goldson doesn't have to sign it at all and until he signs it he doesn't have to report to camp. He could hold out into the season as well forcing us to trade him. Wouldn't make sense otherwise because we can't negotiate with him until after our last game of the season (Dec 30). It would mean he loses out on more money than he's made his previous 5 years in the league and also risking teams signing him after being out a year. So odds are he doesn't hold out, doesn't do him much good... it's just a matter of is he bitter and wanting to hold out of training camp to stiff us sort of speak. If he's smart he gets in asap because the better he plays this year the more he makes and although he will probably be in the right physical shape (he's been working out on his own) he needs to meet up with the defense and coaches and catch up mentally.

He can hold out till after our tenth game technically, our so I believe
Originally posted by WINiner:
He can hold out till after our tenth game technically, our so I believe

Thanks for clearing that up. So after that he is a free agent again and the 1 year tag is taken off him? I would think it goes back to us still owning the rights to him and we could tag him.
So what is the point of him not signing it? If they can no longer sign him to a long term contract then what is he holding out for? Just to screw them over or something?
Originally posted by BayArea:
So what is the point of him not signing it? If they can no longer sign him to a long term contract then what is he holding out for? Just to screw them over or something?

exactly. They disrespected him by not signing him, now it's payback time.
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
Originally posted by BayArea:
So what is the point of him not signing it? If they can no longer sign him to a long term contract then what is he holding out for? Just to screw them over or something?

exactly. They disrespected him by not signing him, now it's payback time.

I don't think he will hold out because he will make more this year than the previous 5 years. And making only 4.x mil in 5 years for a big spender like Goldson isn't enough. Plus who would sign him next year after not playing a year... it would hurt his value. Remember, training camp's 1st practice is later this week so it hasn't even started. As for "sticking it to us" he might be just saying I'll sign but I'll stick it to you and sign at the end of camp or the end of pre season. He might make us sweat a bit. That being said Whitner and others said he is working out on his own so it's not like he is sitting on the coach and getting fat. He will come physically ready it's just that he will have to catch up mentally on what we did this off season.
[ Edited by Gore_21 on Jul 23, 2012 at 3:32 PM ]
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
exactly. They disrespected him by not signing him, now it's payback time.

If we only knew how the discussions went............ it may or may not hurt him if he holds out, history says otherwise. To hold out now though seems counterproductive, he'll hurt the team short term, but the team may find someone to adequately fill this void and ends up hurting him long term. Don't think that the defense as a whole didn't have anything to do with his success last season.
He's only hurting himself, he needs to have a big year for any team to pay him what he wants. His next contract will be the most lucrative, the better he plays the more he will get in FA next year. He holds out, skips TC and plays bad he's losing potentially millions. His agent should be telling him this, put your pride aside and play lights out.
Originally posted by AlohaBruh:
He's only hurting himself, he needs to have a big year for any team to pay him what he wants. His next contract will be the most lucrative, the better he plays the more he will get in FA next year. He holds out, skips TC and plays bad he's losing potentially millions. His agent should be telling him this, put your pride aside and play lights out.

The other side of that discussion is if he gets hurt that he potentially loses millions. He or his agent may or may not have overvalued his worth (don't know how the negotiations went), either way the parties didn't reach an agreement. He has two options, force the team to trade him (with which team, who knows) by holding out or play in this current situation and hope to play at an all pro level and pray to not get hurt............just hope it doesn't hurt the team, coz the whole fan base will let him know about it.
He is probably pissed off that Ray Rice and Matt Forte both got long term deals and he didn't. If he were smart he would sign the tender play like he deserves a long term deal like he wants and chances are they give him a good contract next year. Not like he wont be making a pretty penny under the tag anyhow.

Stupid will be to miss all of training camp and sign right before the season so he comes out unprepared under performs and then his value will drop big time.
He needs to sign the one year deal and let his play on the field be the best evidence or his worth to this team as well as the league.

If he gets injured while training on his own
He's screwed. The fo can just pull the offer.

Idk even know trading is an option. Where is his leverage to force a deal? Any rumors floating about any teams in need (thin at fs/injury)? Heck, what teams would want to meet his price, whatever it maybe and what would be the niners price?

If he wants to make big money this is his best opportunity in the short term. Any time delay getting into camp and signing the contract would not cast a good light in future negotiations with this FO or any other imo.
goldson has almost no leverage

the FS talent in the next draft class is just insane
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How many days of camp can you miss before you start getting fined?
I agree he has no leverage. The 9ers basically let him walk last year and no team had any interest. I'd rather address FS next year in the draft and pay Bowman (long term) and Soap (short term). The front 7 is the strength of the team
Originally posted by pd24:
How many days of camp can you miss before you start getting fined?

He's not under contract can't get fined
Originally posted by sachie23:
I agree he has no leverage. The 9ers basically let him walk last year and no team had any interest. I'd rather address FS next year in the draft and pay Bowman (long term) and Soap (short term). The front 7 is the strength of the team

Agreed. Our front 7 is more important, and I feel confident that Donatell can get enough out of another safety to make Goldson expendable if he's unwilling to play for a reasonable amount. I wouldn't lock up 8 mil per on a FS behind this front 7... not with the cap situation being what it is.