Make Dashon Goldson the highest paid safety in the league?

For once, I guess the difference for me is that I am trusting these coaches to know what they have in the youngsters. If they believe they can whip them into shape? or whip a rd 1-2 rookie safety into shape? Then, fine. I just get this sneaking suspicion that after Goldson makes big long-term money, the team that signed him will be doing this before long ---> .

Goldson is not that good I honestly don't understand why he receives so much fan attention

That's too bad. Judging by how the redskins signed morgan I think another team will pay him what he wants next year.

Draft tj mcdonald

Originally posted by danimal:
Goldson is not that good I honestly don't understand why he receives so much fan attention

Agreed.

The fact that people were talking about him possibly being the highest paid S in the NFL is laughable. He improved under the new coaching staff last year, but he's still just a heavy hitter who goes for the pick every time. He needs to vastly improve his coverage ability if he wants that kind of long term money.

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I'm perfectly fine with Goldson on a one year deal. But I think he's making a big mistake if he misses most of training camp.

The 49ers are pricing Goldson out of their own spending range. I see them tagging Goldson again for 2013. We better be in the market for a long term solution at FS sometime soon.

Oh well, i hope he signs his deal asap so he doesn't miss anymore time with the team then he already has. sure they could tag him again next year but do they want to go through this situation again.

Without concrete proof nor insider info im gonna go out on a limb and say i believe this FO /staff doesn't want to have players on the squad whose contract situations can disrupt the team or distract a single player from the goal of that team. Admittedly, this is a unique season because hopes are SOOO high and for good reason.

If they the niners and goldson have to go through this again then he must have had a MONSTER year so as to bring the niners back to the table or the FO and coaching will have failed by not developing a plan b.

He ruined TWO INTs vs the giants by running into his own teammates. He should be just as hated as Kyle Williams.

Originally posted by SFrush:
I'm perfectly fine with Goldson on a one year deal. But I think he's making a big mistake if he misses most of training camp.

Yup, cards were always all in the Niners FO favor. If he signed for the 5 or 6 million (heck, didn't they off him 7?), good for us. We have 2 SS's back there for a while. But Fangio and this team knows we need coverage S's, smaller, quicker, faster guys who have range and can help over the top and not have to play 30 yards deep in order not to get beat. Now we buy a year or two to develop his replacement and again, it will be up to Goldson. Either way, we should be in good shape esp. with our front 7 and current secondary. We have Culliver who can play FS, Robinson, Spillman, etc. veteran FA's, then the draft and more FA's, etc.

Once again, I think Goldson over-priced himself and he'll REALLY have to play balls out even more this year to prove his value in FA (which I doubt he can do; most likely his play will level out).

Originally posted by Niners99:
Agreed.

The fact that people were talking about him possibly being the highest paid S in the NFL is laughable. He improved under the new coaching staff last year, but he's still just a heavy hitter who goes for the pick every time. He needs to vastly improve his coverage ability if he wants that kind of long term money.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by danimal:
Goldson is not that good I honestly don't understand why he receives so much fan attention

Agreed.

The fact that people were talking about him possibly being the highest paid S in the NFL is laughable. He improved under the new coaching staff last year, but he's still just a heavy hitter who goes for the pick every time. He needs to vastly improve his coverage ability if he wants that kind of long term money.

Agreed also, and he needs to tackle better on a consistent basis. He did have a good year last year...let's see if he can now put back-to-back good seasons together. The Niners know what great safety play looks like after having some top talent at the position in the past years...Lott, McDonald, Hanks, Williamson, Hicks. Some of those guys were strong safeties, but in today's game both the FS and SS must be able to both cover and tackle. Goldson needs to get better consistently at both.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Agreed.

The fact that people were talking about him possibly being the highest paid S in the NFL is laughable. He improved under the new coaching staff last year, but he's still just a heavy hitter who goes for the pick every time. He needs to vastly improve his coverage ability if he wants that kind of long term money.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by danimal:
Goldson is not that good I honestly don't understand why he receives so much fan attention

Agreed.

The fact that people were talking about him possibly being the highest paid S in the NFL is laughable. He improved under the new coaching staff last year, but he's still just a heavy hitter who goes for the pick every time. He needs to vastly improve his coverage ability if he wants that kind of long term money.

Agreed also, and he needs to tackle better on a consistent basis. He did have a good year last year...let's see if he can now put back-to-back good seasons together. The Niners know what great safety play looks like after having some top talent at the position in the past years...Lott, McDonald, Hanks, Williamson, Hicks. Some of those guys were strong safeties, but in today's game both the FS and SS must be able to both cover and tackle. Goldson needs to get better consistently at both.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Agreed.

The fact that people were talking about him possibly being the highest paid S in the NFL is laughable. He improved under the new coaching staff last year, but he's still just a heavy hitter who goes for the pick every time. He needs to vastly improve his coverage ability if he wants that kind of long term money.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by danimal:
Goldson is not that good I honestly don't understand why he receives so much fan attention

Agreed.

The fact that people were talking about him possibly being the highest paid S in the NFL is laughable. He improved under the new coaching staff last year, but he's still just a heavy hitter who goes for the pick every time. He needs to vastly improve his coverage ability if he wants that kind of long term money.

Agreed also, and he needs to tackle better on a consistent basis. He did have a good year last year...let's see if he can now put back-to-back good seasons together. The Niners know what great safety play looks like after having some top talent at the position in the past years...Lott, McDonald, Hanks, Williamson, Hicks. Some of those guys were strong safeties, but in today's game both the FS and SS must be able to both cover and tackle. Goldson needs to get better consistently at both.

Great points...these two positions in a 3-4 need to be interchangeable. Goldson needs to work on his angles, wrapping up, hesitation (reads) but he especially needs to work on coverage over-the-top on sideline throws, range and coverage in the middle of the field (see Saints/Giants game).

You could argue he (and the S position alone) gave up 3 to 4 TD's d/t not tackling properly or making a play or blowing a coverage (e.g. poor angle on the Sproles TD and missed tackle and the Graham TD's x2; immediate TD to Manningham on a simple post pattern with zero coverage from a S).

Goldson's "coverage skills" are not very good...he always seems to be late (looking for the big hit rather than defending a pass) and whenever we play a tall, dominant TE, it's Willis on coverage, NOT Goldson and I think this is a telling point. Fangio would rather risk shorter, better coverage guys such as Whitner/Willis on a TE in the RZ/EZ over a taller Goldson? And why DOES Fangio start Goldson 30 yards deep on so many plays? He just doesn't have the range or coverage skills and I think we are seeing his selfishness (in his play and contract negotiations).

He's a perfect SS though but we have Whitner for that now. The good news is that he'll do his best to ball out this year and he does have a little more upside; he does have the skill set to improve in the aforementioned but he's going to have to prove it two years in a row and really grow in these areas to get paid like an elite FS.

Originally posted by Niners99:
Agreed.

The fact that people were talking about him possibly being the highest paid S in the NFL is laughable. He improved under the new coaching staff last year, but he's still just a heavy hitter who goes for the pick every time. He needs to vastly improve his coverage ability if he wants that kind of long term money.

Who said highest paid safety besides the OP? That would be Berry at 60 million. Goldson would have gotten 35-40. Anyways, I will agree Goldson isn't perfect and gives up plays at times but I think people that are hating him haven't see the rest of the NFL's safeties. Goldson is near the top... almost all the safeties in the league give up big plays and struggle in coverage. So as flawed as he is at times so are the rest of the NFL's safeties. There are a bunch off safeties making 35-40+ million or an average of 6-8 million that Goldson is as good as if not better than. Like I said earlier the S position is becoming a higher paying spot.

Originally posted by THEB:

He ruined TWO INTs vs the giants by running into his own teammates. He should be just as hated as Kyle Williams.

That past part is impossible. As frustrating as him running into his own teammates at times, he did cause a lot of havoc on opposin players last year. However in the away Arizona game he laid out aldon smith when the QB (kolb?) scrambled out. Aldon looked a little shaken on that hit. Also on the long fitzgerald TD , Larry grant was in the process of wrapping him up when Goldson came through and hit him off allowing fitz to break loose.