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dtg_9er
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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by Bali-Niner:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by Goldson38:
5 years 50mil make it happen
50 years 5 dollars; make it happen.
Agreed...........!
I heard his new agent is a tough negotiator. We might have to throw in a Subway sandwich and a free coffee at Dunkin Donuts....
They have pretty good coffee...should tip the scale!
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gravelburn
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The Niners are under no pressure to give into his demands. He's franchised at $6.whatever million for 2012. Unless he has an absolutely amazing year, no sane front office is going to pay him like the best FS in the league.
So it's really up to how much of a gambler Goldson is (and judging by his play, I'd say he's a big one). If he wants a long-term deal with a team that looks to be a superbowl contender for the foreseeable future, then he'll take the $7 million/year the Niners are offering him. On the other hand, if he wants to try his luck, risking a few blown plays or injury (which essentially translates into a whole wad of guaranteed money on the top defense in the league and SB contender for at least the next 5 years) for what would probably amount to an extra 15% or so, then that's a bet I think the Niners are comfortable making.
If he proves this year that he's worth top FS money, the Niners can make that call next year and pay him accordingly. And if the bidding for his services gets out of hand and the Niners lose him, then that's just the nature of the business. A winning formula pretty much never relies on any one player who is not a QB or possibly a RB, and the Niner's model seems to rely on those two positions even less than most (actually our kickers might be more essential than anyone). The most important thing is that the Niners stick to their winning model, because it looks like it could work for a long time. And if they lose Goldson, which would be a shame, there's over $6 million in cap room to spend on a new FS and a full year to develop the guys already on the team.
And by the way, in case anyone is worried, there's NO way Goldson holds out this year. The only way he gets paid top dollar next year is if he performs this year. It's hard to do that from the couch.
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SanDiego49er
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$6 - $7 million is enough. We are offering him enough.
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4everfaithful24
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And 8 mill is just retarded
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49ersalldaway126
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only way we pay him 8 mil this year is if he gers 2 mil next year
he isnt worth 8 mil he lacks to much of the fundementals that reed and palmualu and its looking like earl thomas have to get payed top dollar
he is a playmaker big hits and decent in coverage but he misses too many tackles bumps into other players (those two would be int in NFCCG)
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niners9
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to be honest I would rather him walk next year. when you have a good team you have a lot of good players, someone has to go and I think a couple other guys should get paid ahead of him. our D is great and I believe we could find a young guy with bigger upside to replace him. if not, i think 6 mill is more than enough.
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Oakland-Niner
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Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
only way we pay him 8 mil this year is if he gers 2 mil next year
he isnt worth 8 mil he lacks to much of the fundementals that reed and palmualu and its looking like earl thomas have to get payed top dollar
he is a playmaker big hits and decent in coverage but he misses too many tackles bumps into other players (those two would be int in NFCCG)
I'm suprised this doesn't get brought up more. He probably cost us two ints and if he doesn't collide with Brown (who had the right-away), Brock doesn't come in and Eli probably doesn't throw that TD pass.
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OKC49erFan
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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
only way we pay him 8 mil this year is if he gers 2 mil next year
he isnt worth 8 mil he lacks to much of the fundementals that reed and palmualu and its looking like earl thomas have to get payed top dollar
he is a playmaker big hits and decent in coverage but he misses too many tackles bumps into other players (those two would be int in NFCCG)
I'm suprised this doesn't get brought up more. He probably cost us two ints and if he doesn't collide with Brown (who had the right-away), Brock doesn't come in and Eli probably doesn't throw that TD pass.
It has been brought up, people rabidly defend it, Afrikan in particular.
The corners are looking back at the ball. Goldson has everything in front of him, his lack of awareness caused him to not see his opwn teammates moving on the passes. Had those been WRs, great play. Since they weren't, blunder. It is part of his job to recognize the difference. Of course, many will violently disagree with this.
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lamontb
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If they pay Goldson then you can wave bye bye to Bowman.
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mcbaes72
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He turned down contract last year, tested FA, only got interest from NE, but came back to SF. Now, he wants EVEN MORE money? Didn't he learn anything the first time?
Take SF's best offer or play out FT contract and GTFO after the season!
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mcbaes72
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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
only way we pay him 8 mil this year is if he gers 2 mil next year
he isnt worth 8 mil he lacks to much of the fundementals that reed and palmualu and its looking like earl thomas have to get payed top dollar
he is a playmaker big hits and decent in coverage but he misses too many tackles bumps into other players (those two would be int in NFCCG)
I'm suprised this doesn't get brought up more. He probably cost us two ints and if he doesn't collide with Brown (who had the right-away), Brock doesn't come in and Eli probably doesn't throw that TD pass.
All good points! More reasons not to pay him his asking price. Lower it to $5 mil a year (or similar to last year's offer) or let some other team overpay for him.
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Willisfn4life
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No way do I want to risk losing Bowman in the future to pay this guy 8 million a year. Solid saftey but far from the best in the league, thus he should not be paid as the best in the league.
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LifelongNiner
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If 8 million is what he truly wants then bye, bye Goldson. I like him and all, but no way every guy on our defense can get top dollar and I value retaining Bowman (who probably won't cost 8 million, but might be worth it) more than I value retaining Goldson.
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lamontb
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
If 8 million is what he truly wants then bye, bye Goldson. I like him and all, but no way every guy on our defense can get top dollar and I value retaining Bowman (who probably won't cost 8 million, but might be worth it) more than I value retaining Goldson.
Don't be surprised is Bowman wants Willis type money b/c he knows and we all know he can get that on the free market if his play remains at such a high level.
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pasodoc9er
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Yeah, Lamont, i kinda worried about that. If we do have to pay up , I'd much rather it be Bowman than Goldson. Altho his offer sheet is still fair and to us folks, a lot of money.