Does Chris Owusu Make the Team in 2012?

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Agreed. Putting Owusu on the PS exposes him. We are not going to be able to hide him there. I really see him making it and Ginn getting the ax.

How did we "hide" him through seven rounds of the draft....?

Ginn won't get cut. We can bet on that. Dude's dangerous on ST's returns.

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by Jakemall:
If Owusu makes 53 it means he out performed Williams. As much as I like Kyle...if that happens, I wll wish him luck.

If we can find a legit KR and PR guy, I'd much rather have Williams at wr than Ginn. I dont have any fire power to debate it, but I see a lot of potential in KW.

So do I. I do not think Owusu beats him, but if he does, I am okay with it. As for Moss being one and done, if we were talking about the #3 wr, then I would be concerned about the future, but for a guy that could impact every offensive snap?

There was talk about our new hb being able to do special teams as well. We will see. We probably carry 6 wrs this season.

That's why I think Ginn could be a goner. LaMichael Lames is a dangerous returner as well as an explosive RB. Ginn, while a dangerous returner, isn't a particularly good WR. And we know how JH values dual threat players. And I agree we could keep 6 WR's. The top 3 (A.J., Manningham, and - regretably - Crabs) I think are safe. The bottom 3 WR spots will be left to Moss, Williams, Ginn, and Owusu to compete it out in camp. Moss looks good at this point (as he should) but I'm not convinced he makes it in the end. I like Williams and think he squeaks by, but if he's out performed he could be gone. I think Owusu makes one of those spots.

Originally posted by RDB4216:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Agreed. Putting Owusu on the PS exposes him. We are not going to be able to hide him there. I really see him making it and Ginn getting the ax.

How did we "hide" him through seven rounds of the draft....?

His concussions hid him out of the draft. But his talent won't let him to see a practice squad for more than a day.

It's possible the Niners will find a way to put Owusu on IR for the year. To give his noggin a year to heal itself would be best for him anyway.

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
It's possible the Niners will find a way to put Owusu on IR for the year. To give his noggin a year to heal itself would be best for him anyway.

I could see that happening, especially given the new IR rules.

I think our top 5 WR barring injury will be . . .

1. Crabtree
2. Moss
3. Manningham
4. Jenkins (could move up quickly)
5. Ginn (6200 return yards and 6 TD returns in 5 years. I think we keep him.)

IMO we would need to keep six WR for Williams or Owusu to make it, which could be out of the question if our three defensive rookies all perform well. IMO if Fleming, Robinson and Johnson all look like they can contribute on special teams and play well enough in the pre-season to where we won't be able to slip one of them through to the PS, then it will be very tough to keep six WR's IMO, not to mention Rock Cartwright.

Plus we already have two defacto WR's built into the roster with Vernon and Walker.

As mentioned by Gregg Williams KW has a concussion history as well.

Williams vs. Owusu battle of the concussions.

We have a lot of the same type of receivers, small, fast types. It makes the competition almost irrelevant -- you get AJ, Owusu, or KW. They all pose the same threat to the defense.

I still think this is the one mistake made in the make-up of the team. 1. It keeps the receiving types 1 dimensional, and 2. it makes it harder on the QB to not have a good outlet guy to convert 3rd downs -- either at WR or TE.

Moss has to make the team. This team still lacks a big body receiver, Moss is the closest thing to that, although he is not an across the middle possession/conversion receiver.

I don't want Kyle Williams or Chris Owusu playing special teams. The latter for his health and the former for mine.

I think Owusu has a very high ceiling, but I just don't see him making the team. Coaches would have to feel really comfortable with his concussion issues. I think the only way he makes it is if he can contribute on special teams and I just don't think that's a good idea for the kid.

Originally posted by HearstFan:
We have a lot of the same type of receivers, small, fast types. It makes the competition almost irrelevant -- you get AJ, Owusu, or KW. They all pose the same threat to the defense.

I still think this is the one mistake made in the make-up of the team. 1. It keeps the receiving types 1 dimensional, and 2. it makes it harder on the QB to not have a good outlet guy to convert 3rd downs -- either at WR or TE.

Moss has to make the team. This team still lacks a big body receiver, Moss is the closest thing to that, although he is not an across the middle possession/conversion receiver.

A boatload of people thought Aldon was a mistake. How's that mistake going? Lets let JH & Co. work their plan before we declare a player a mistake. Surely they've earned that much. As far as Moss is concerned the bold is the reason (among other reasons) I think he won't make the final 53. I thought Baalke and JH would draft a big physical WR too. But they didn't; and when you look at the type of WR's we brought in one could say that Baalke, JH & Co. isn't really valuing that big body-type WR as we are. It's clear they want to be more explosive and faster. I think the passing game is going to be tailor made for A.J. and Crabs.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
I could see that happening, especially given the new IR rules.

No way Owusu would let that happen.

Originally posted by HearstFan:
We have a lot of the same type of receivers, small, fast types. It makes the competition almost irrelevant -- you get AJ, Owusu, or KW. They all pose the same threat to the defense.

I still think this is the one mistake made in the make-up of the team. 1. It keeps the receiving types 1 dimensional, and 2. it makes it harder on the QB to not have a good outlet guy to convert 3rd downs -- either at WR or TE.

Moss has to make the team. This team still lacks a big body receiver, Moss is the closest thing to that, although he is not an across the middle possession/conversion receiver.

Moss is 6'4 and has crazy leap, thats all we need.

As to same "type of WR" I have to disagree. Just because AJ and Moss are fast doesn't mean they play the same. If I had to group by type, it would look like this:

Crabs/Manningham - Well rounded short and intermidiate threat.

KW - Slot reciever

Moss - Only proven Deep threat

Ginn - Very fast, but staff has never used him as a 9 route guy.

Jenkins -TBD - But I see him as an all purpose WR. Where as Crabs is intermidate to short, I see Jenkins as being all purpose with his speed being a major threat.

Originally posted by toeshawn:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Barring injury to another player, if Owusu makes the roster, I think that would mean another lower-depth player could be getting traded or cut (possibly KW). In my opinion, the depth chart right now is:

1. Crabtree
2. Moss
3. Manningham
4. Jenkins
5. Ginn
6. Williams
7. Owusu
8. Swain
9. Matthews
10. Palmer
11. Tyms
12. Hastings

You think kw has trade value?

Nah, but Ginn could. Wouldn't want to trade him though. One thing's for sure, we have a bevy of talented KR/PR specialists on this team now: Ginn, Hunter, L.James, Owusu, Perrish Cox, Deante' Purvis among the players that I'd consider using.

Others that have the experience/ability, but that I would NOT want to see doing returns (for various reasons) are: KW, Jenkins, Culliver, and Delanie Walker.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by RDB4216:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Agreed. Putting Owusu on the PS exposes him. We are not going to be able to hide him there. I really see him making it and Ginn getting the ax.

How did we "hide" him through seven rounds of the draft....?

His concussions hid him out of the draft. But his talent won't let him to see a practice squad for more than a day.

Only if he performs in preseason.........