Kaepernick vs. Tolzien vs. Johnson | Page 4

mustangmele · 2012-04-17T11:56:55-07:00

Who's going to be the number 2, 3 and possibly 4th QB? I'm very interested to see how CK plays in preseason. He's got a lot of confidence and is itching to play. No way he'll start this year though. Also, I don't know about cutting Tolzien. I'd keep him around if he plays well. He apperas to be devoted to his craft. Johnson on the other hand has skills but are they even neccessary in the system we run?

Apr 18, 2012 at 5:14 PM

#46

WINiner
Veteran
Posts: 15,910

Originally posted by aTx49er:
1. Taylor Mays ring a bell?
2. We traded up after the other QB(Dalton) that harbaugh was interested in was taken off the board.

You have 0 proof of this. It is suspected, but you have 0 proof that Dalton was the #1 choice. Stick to facts.

Apr 18, 2012 at 6:16 PM

#47

aTx49er
Veteran
Posts: 1,662

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by aTx49er:
1. Taylor Mays ring a bell?
2. We traded up after the other QB(Dalton) that harbaugh was interested in was taken off the board.

You have 0 proof of this. It is suspected, but you have 0 proof that Dalton was the #1 choice. Stick to facts.

Lol. Where did I write that Dalton was the #1 choice? I said Harbaugh was also interested in Dalton. He attended Dalton's pro day workout and had him come in for a private workout. Those are facts.

http://www.examiner.com/san-francisco-49ers-in-san-francisco/with-harbaugh-at-andy-dalton-s-pro-day-49ers-probably-not-going-qb-1st-round
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/151331-tcus-qb-andy-dalton/page21/

Apr 18, 2012 at 8:07 PM

#48

qnnhan7
Veteran
Posts: 35,190

Right now none of these guys have given me any solid evidence that they can step in and do the job of a good backup qb if Smith gets injured for 2-3 games. I really don't care who. Any one of these guys need to look good in the preseason games. Preseason aren't much but that's the best 'stage' they have to showcase their efforts to be a good backup. Who will be #2... Your guess is as good as mine. Right now I have no idea.

Apr 18, 2012 at 9:33 PM

#49

Young2Rice
Veteran
Posts: 71,773

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Right now none of these guys have given me any solid evidence that they can step in and do the job of a good backup qb if Smith gets injured for 2-3 games. I really don't care who. Any one of these guys need to look good in the preseason games. Preseason aren't much but that's the best 'stage' they have to showcase their efforts to be a good backup. Who will be #2... Your guess is as good as mine. Right now I have no idea.

Yeah any of these guys can go 14/26 for 179 yards with no TD and no INT and we can still win.

Crazy how some on here think they can't.

Apr 18, 2012 at 10:17 PM

#50

Wubbie
Veteran
Posts: 5,867

Originally posted by overthemiddle:
Valrod 33 probably has it right. I just wonder if Kaep is a WCO QB. Just seems to me he might be a better fit in an offense similar to what Norv Turner runs in San Diego. Be interesting to watch Kaep in pre season if he hasnt been traded during this years draft.

Michael Vick and Brett Favre, two guys you wouldn't think were WCO QBs are/were two pretty good WCO QBs.

Sure, a guy could be an incredible athlete like Vick, but that helps him out quite a lot in the passing game. It spreads a defense out, buys him time in the pocket when those quick slants aren't open, and forces teams to really play on their heels.

Brett Favre was a super-aggressive gunslinger with a cannon for an arm, but once he learned to play with some discipline and read defenses in a WCO scheme... he became on of the NFL's greatest passers.

Kaepernick definitely has a place in the West Coast Offense if he can learn the system and read defenses.

Apr 19, 2012 at 8:05 AM

#51

D_Niner
Veteran
Posts: 8,508

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
D niner, are you being serious or facetious about Tolz not being the best qb to come in if alex goes down?

Serious...

There's several things that we, as fans, don't know. Most of the time, the # 1 and 2 guys are asked in the pre-season to come in and execute the plays call by the coaches. Usually the #3 or even #4, if there is one, are told to just go in and make plays.

Tolzan reminds me of Troy Smith, at least what I've seen of him. He can make plays happen; but, can he execute plays that are called? I'll trust the coaches to make that decision when/if the time comes because I don't have all the info; but, IMO Tolzan would not be the one to come in if Alex goes down.

Apr 19, 2012 at 8:11 AM

#52

49ersalldaway126
Veteran
Posts: 14,549

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Yeah any of these guys can go 14/26 for 179 yards with no TD and no INT and we can still win.

Crazy how some on here think they can't.

Only 2 guys passed for more TD in playoffs and both played more games and had much much more weapons

Apr 19, 2012 at 12:58 PM

#53

Afrikan
Veteran
Posts: 23,670

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Yeah any of these guys can go 14/26 for 179 yards with no TD and no INT and we can still win.

Crazy how some on here think they can't.

Only 2 guys passed for more TD in playoffs and both played more games and had much much more weapons

those sound like Elite stats! we better not let him hit free agency.

Apr 19, 2012 at 1:25 PM

#54

English
Moderator
Posts: 41,417

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Yeah any of these guys can go 14/26 for 179 yards with no TD and no INT and we can still win.

Crazy how some on here think they can't.

Only 2 guys passed for more TD in playoffs and both played more games and had much much more weapons

those sound like Elite stats! we better not let him hit free agency.

Please stick to the subject.