If You Were Smith......... | Page 3

Oakland-Niner · 2012-03-10T08:01:06-08:00

Most of what's been discussed in the Alex Smith thread is from the team's perspective, both pro and con. We've all seen the arguments so I dont want to rehash them here. What I'm interested in is what you guys think Smith "SHOULD" do, not "What" he will do. Put yourself in his shoes for a minute. What would be your next move? So, if you were Smith, what would you do? Here are a few possible answers as an example: a) Stand firm on your contract demands and walk if it comes to it? b) Possibly take less money with another team and start fresh somewhere else? c) Sign the contract and hope to restructure if you play well enough next year? d) Demand a 1 year contract at a higher dollar amount in hopes of getting big money and a longer term deal next year with or without the Niners? - Afrika's idea Please dont turn this into a Alex debat. I realize you have to argue your point a little, but there is no need to repost stuff that was just posted in the Alex Smith thread. Personally, if I'm Smith, I really like the one year contract option.

Mar 10, 2012 at 10:30 AM

#31

okdkid
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I would:

1) Have Condon keep me in the loop on any Niner interest in Peyton. If they have interest, I sign if I'm happy with the current offer.
2) Wait a little longer to see if any other QBs sign an extension
3) Wait to see where Flynn lands, if the Niners aren't offering me $10MM per year with $20MM guaranteed

then...

4) Once the QB landscape unfolds, ask the Niners for a comparable offer to Flynn, since I'm the better, more experienced QB

Note: Alex has more leverage than people think. The Niners absolutely need to have a starting QB on the roster on Tuesday to attract top FA WRs. Kaep simply will not attract WRs. WRs will not sign if that is still up in the air. The Niners will want to close him out this weekend.

Mar 10, 2012 at 10:31 AM

#32

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If I were alex, I would just sign the contract, not play games, and get in and practice more. He holds the key to us winning, I'd be practicing my ass off right now, I'd call crabtree and Kyle williams and get their asses in gear early.

I would be very leary that they are just trying to get me to keep the spot warm for CK though.

Mar 10, 2012 at 10:39 AM

#33

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Originally posted by unst4bl3:
If I were alex, I would just sign the contract, not play games, and get in and practice more. He holds the key to us winning, I'd be practicing my ass off right now, I'd call crabtree and Kyle williams and get their asses in gear early.

I would be very leary that they are just trying to get me to keep the spot warm for CK though.

That's the motivation for a 5 year deal. Even a 4 year deal. If he is going to be the starter and the head coach is saying "Alex is our guy"... then make "Alex our guy" contractually.

You can't tell the world somebody is "our guy" and then not pay him like he's "our guy". The Niners risk setting a dangerous precedent if they don't come through.

That doesn't mean paying an outlandish contract. That just means paying him $10-11MM per year at around $20MM guaranteed.

Seems fair given his amazing success over the last 24 games.

Mar 10, 2012 at 10:39 AM

#34

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Originally posted by unst4bl3:
If I were alex, I would just sign the contract, not play games, and get in and practice more. He holds the key to us winning, I'd be practicing my ass off right now, I'd call crabtree and Kyle williams and get their asses in gear early.

I would be very leary that they are just trying to get me to keep the spot warm for CK though.

Which also means he holds a lot more in terms of negotiating... I think the last sentence is the key to this whole deal. He feels the 9ers see him as the bridge to the QB of the future and not the QB of the future based on the number of years in the offer...

Mar 10, 2012 at 10:50 AM

#35

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Alex sign the 3 year deal. Then play lights out ball. After you accomplish that you will still be young enough to command big time money. QBs jobs are drying up quickly. Not sure is Seattle or Arizona would want you or not, Browns probably dont unless McCoys daddy wont let him play. The Dolphins are either going to get Manning or Flynn. The chiefs will either go with Manning or stay with Casell. You dont want to play for the Broncos with Tebow still there or Manning might be there. Redskins will draft there man. So that leaves the Jags and why would you want to leave a team that is Super Bowl Ready to play for the Jags. Plus if you do leave your going to have to learn a new system again.

Mar 10, 2012 at 10:53 AM

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He should take the deal because nobody else is gonna give him that.

He has no leverage.

Mar 10, 2012 at 11:10 AM

#37

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I think he should sign the short term contract. Sitting under Harbaugh will only help him improve his game even more. Then go after that big deal. Harbaugh had alot of patience with this kid. I dont see any other coach having that for him. If Alex leaves and doesnt perform well i believe he'll just fizzle out. His best chances on becoming a SB champion is with us. just my honest opinion.

Mar 10, 2012 at 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by susweel:
He should take the deal because nobody else is gonna give him that.

He has no leverage.

Says who? We don't know who's said what to him. When FA opens its likely that Smith will be the top option out there in a QB starved league. Manning is reportedly wanting to sign before FA opens.

Mar 10, 2012 at 11:12 AM

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If I was Smith... I'd register on this board and tell susweel just what a meany he is and why he should go make himself a poop sandwich.

Mar 10, 2012 at 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by susweel:
He should take the deal because nobody else is gonna give him that.

He has no leverage.

Says who? We don't know who's said what to him. When FA opens its likely that Smith will be the top option out there in a QB starved league. Manning is reportedly wanting to sign before FA opens.

yah sure

Mar 10, 2012 at 11:15 AM

#41

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Originally posted by susweel:
He should take the deal because nobody else is gonna give him that.

He has no leverage.

ok, man. take a look around.

Mar 10, 2012 at 11:17 AM

#42

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Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by susweel:
He should take the deal because nobody else is gonna give him that.

He has no leverage.

ok, man. take a look around.

You only have leverage if another team will pay you more.

Mar 10, 2012 at 11:22 AM

#43

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Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by susweel:
He should take the deal because nobody else is gonna give him that.

He has no leverage.

ok, man. take a look around.

You only have leverage if another team will pay you more.

Seahawks, Browns, Dolphins, jags, are all looking for QBs and arnt in position to get one in the draft, tell me which FA QB is a better option.

Mar 10, 2012 at 11:25 AM

#44

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Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by susweel:
He should take the deal because nobody else is gonna give him that.

He has no leverage.

ok, man. take a look around.

You only have leverage if another team will pay you more.

First of all, you don't know another team won't. Just look at every QB transaction over the past 2 years. Teams go nuts.

Second of all, that's not true. Being offered more isn't the sole source of leverage. The Niners need a starting veteran QB signed by the start of FA. How could they reasonably expect to attract Wallace, Jackson or even Garcon with a guy who has never started before? Manning and Flynn aren't happening. We all should come to terms with that.

So, that means Alex has some leverage.

Mar 10, 2012 at 11:30 AM

#45

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Smith ain't going anywhere, Condon knows it, Baalke knows it, Harbaugh knows it, even the loser thugs who fought in the preseason game know it. If I were Smith, I'd do exactly what he's doing, wait up till free agency starts and hope Baalke flinches before him and Condon do on details of the contract, fearing he'll leave to go to another team. If he doesn't flinch, sign what they're offering. It's really that simple on what's going on people.