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CAP SPACE AFTER BROOKS

$21.232M under with the following.

Brooks- $3.05M
Goldson- $6.2M franchise tender
Brock- $540K tender as EFA
Tukuafu- $645K tender as EFA
Grant- $1.927M tender as RFA, 2nd round tender
Spillman- projected $1.215M salary ($615K base and $600K bonus)
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
$21.232M under with the following.

Brooks- $3.05M
Goldson- $6.2M franchise tender
Brock- $540K tender as EFA
Tukuafu- $645K tender as EFA
Grant- $1.927M tender as RFA, 2nd round tender
Spillman- projected $1.215M salary ($615K base and $600K bonus)

What do you think it will cost for Alex and Rogers and Snyder (or others)? That should give us a good idea on a FA WR room.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
$21.232M under with the following.

Brooks- $3.05M
Goldson- $6.2M franchise tender
Brock- $540K tender as EFA
Tukuafu- $645K tender as EFA
Grant- $1.927M tender as RFA, 2nd round tender
Spillman- projected $1.215M salary ($615K base and $600K bonus)
This does not include the cost savings if we were to dump Spencer and Haralson right?
Originally posted by Shorteous:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
$21.232M under with the following.

Brooks- $3.05M
Goldson- $6.2M franchise tender
Brock- $540K tender as EFA
Tukuafu- $645K tender as EFA
Grant- $1.927M tender as RFA, 2nd round tender
Spillman- projected $1.215M salary ($615K base and $600K bonus)
This does not include the cost savings if we were to dump Spencer and Haralson right?

correct. That would clear over 5.5M.
Originally posted by Shorteous:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
$21.232M under with the following.

Brooks- $3.05M
Goldson- $6.2M franchise tender
Brock- $540K tender as EFA
Tukuafu- $645K tender as EFA
Grant- $1.927M tender as RFA, 2nd round tender
Spillman- projected $1.215M salary ($615K base and $600K bonus)
This does not include the cost savings if we were to dump Spencer and Haralson right?

After seeing Brooks' deal, I have to think similar first year numbers, 4M for Alex, 4M for Rogers, 2M for Snyder, Costanzo will get around 1.2M, Morgan would be 1.5M(2M average).

Rogers will be, if signed, 6M average. Alex 7-8M average.

If those numbers are like that, that takes away 12.7M, plus the 2.6M for draftees(top 3 rounds, around 4.5M total) leaves us 5.932M, add in though extra 390K each for bumping a player off, gives us an additional 1.56M so up to 7.492M, plus the 3.3M for Spencer, and 2.45M for Haralson, puts us up to 13.242M, and that is with those 4 signed, plus Goldson and Brooks, tenders, etc...

I am very happy with the way its going, low cap numbers for 2012, higher when the cap goes up. With that 13M we could easily get a top WR, Mike Wallace would work, we get a #1 plus get rid of the 30 slot, which free up at least 800K in pro-rated bonus.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
After seeing Brooks' deal, I have to think similar first year numbers, 4M for Alex, 4M for Rogers, 2M for Snyder, Costanzo will get around 1.2M, Morgan would be 1.5M(2M average).

Rogers will be, if signed, 6M average. Alex 7-8M average.

If those numbers are like that, that takes away 12.7M, plus the 2.6M for draftees(top 3 rounds, around 4.5M total) leaves us 5.932M, add in though extra 390K each for bumping a player off, gives us an additional 1.56M so up to 7.492M, plus the 3.3M for Spencer, and 2.45M for Haralson, puts us up to 13.242M, and that is with those 4 signed, plus Goldson and Brooks, tenders, etc...

I am very happy with the way its going, low cap numbers for 2012, higher when the cap goes up. With that 13M we could easily get a top WR, Mike Wallace would work, we get a #1 plus get rid of the 30 slot, which free up at least 800K in pro-rated bonus.

Niner FO + AB = Peace-of-mind!

The future's so bright, you gotta wear !
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
After seeing Brooks' deal, I have to think similar first year numbers, 4M for Alex, 4M for Rogers, 2M for Snyder, Costanzo will get around 1.2M, Morgan would be 1.5M(2M average).

Rogers will be, if signed, 6M average. Alex 7-8M average.

If those numbers are like that, that takes away 12.7M, plus the 2.6M for draftees(top 3 rounds, around 4.5M total) leaves us 5.932M, add in though extra 390K each for bumping a player off, gives us an additional 1.56M so up to 7.492M, plus the 3.3M for Spencer, and 2.45M for Haralson, puts us up to 13.242M, and that is with those 4 signed, plus Goldson and Brooks, tenders, etc...

I am very happy with the way its going, low cap numbers for 2012, higher when the cap goes up. With that 13M we could easily get a top WR, Mike Wallace would work, we get a #1 plus get rid of the 30 slot, which free up at least 800K in pro-rated bonus.

Niner FO + AB = Peace-of-mind!

The future's so bright, you gotta wear !

Thanks my good man, appreciate the kind words.

I was probably the biggest one to come out and say we couldn't keep our guys, but with the structuring it can happen, plus a #1 WR is possible. Whether it happens, we will have to see, it's what I love about free agency, anything can happen. Time to improve and keep the team together. I never doubted the FO, i thought it would be too much money to keep them. I figured Brooks would be 5M first year and not just over 3M, hell of a job by Baalke and Marathe on getting it done.

I will say if we get a tender sheet from another team for grant and he gets the 2nd rd tender, it will be a long wait to see if we keep him or let him go and we take that 2nd rd pick, which would help if we do trade up. It would also help if we do get Wallace. Have 2 2nds with the ability to trade up into rd 1, or stay put, and get 2 solid players.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
$21.232M under with the following.

Brooks- $3.05M
Goldson- $6.2M franchise tender
Brock- $540K tender as EFA
Tukuafu- $645K tender as EFA
Grant- $1.927M tender as RFA, 2nd round tender
Spillman- projected $1.215M salary ($615K base and $600K bonus)

what if we made a long term deal with Goldson instead and he had a structure where it's low now and then higher when the cap goes up? How much room then?
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
After seeing Brooks' deal, I have to think similar first year numbers, 4M for Alex, 4M for Rogers, 2M for Snyder, Costanzo will get around 1.2M, Morgan would be 1.5M(2M average).

Rogers will be, if signed, 6M average. Alex 7-8M average.

If those numbers are like that, that takes away 12.7M, plus the 2.6M for draftees(top 3 rounds, around 4.5M total) leaves us 5.932M, add in though extra 390K each for bumping a player off, gives us an additional 1.56M so up to 7.492M, plus the 3.3M for Spencer, and 2.45M for Haralson, puts us up to 13.242M, and that is with those 4 signed, plus Goldson and Brooks, tenders, etc...

I am very happy with the way its going, low cap numbers for 2012, higher when the cap goes up. With that 13M we could easily get a top WR, Mike Wallace would work, we get a #1 plus get rid of the 30 slot, which free up at least 800K in pro-rated bonus.

Niner FO + AB = Peace-of-mind!

The future's so bright, you gotta wear !

Thanks my good man, appreciate the kind words.

I was probably the biggest one to come out and say we couldn't keep our guys, but with the structuring it can happen, plus a #1 WR is possible. Whether it happens, we will have to see, it's what I love about free agency, anything can happen. Time to improve and keep the team together. I never doubted the FO, i thought it would be too much money to keep them. I figured Brooks would be 5M first year and not just over 3M, hell of a job by Baalke and Marathe on getting it done.

I will say if we get a tender sheet from another team for grant and he gets the 2nd rd tender, it will be a long wait to see if we keep him or let him go and we take that 2nd rd pick, which would help if we do trade up. It would also help if we do get Wallace. Have 2 2nds with the ability to trade up into rd 1, or stay put, and get 2 solid players.

I would take the 2nd rounder because we could get another quality player at a position of need, or trade up farther in the first for a guy like Janoris Jenkins, depending on what happens.
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
After seeing Brooks' deal, I have to think similar first year numbers, 4M for Alex, 4M for Rogers, 2M for Snyder, Costanzo will get around 1.2M, Morgan would be 1.5M(2M average).

Rogers will be, if signed, 6M average. Alex 7-8M average.

If those numbers are like that, that takes away 12.7M, plus the 2.6M for draftees(top 3 rounds, around 4.5M total) leaves us 5.932M, add in though extra 390K each for bumping a player off, gives us an additional 1.56M so up to 7.492M, plus the 3.3M for Spencer, and 2.45M for Haralson, puts us up to 13.242M, and that is with those 4 signed, plus Goldson and Brooks, tenders, etc...

I am very happy with the way its going, low cap numbers for 2012, higher when the cap goes up. With that 13M we could easily get a top WR, Mike Wallace would work, we get a #1 plus get rid of the 30 slot, which free up at least 800K in pro-rated bonus.

Niner FO + AB = Peace-of-mind!

The future's so bright, you gotta wear !

Thanks my good man, appreciate the kind words.

I was probably the biggest one to come out and say we couldn't keep our guys, but with the structuring it can happen, plus a #1 WR is possible. Whether it happens, we will have to see, it's what I love about free agency, anything can happen. Time to improve and keep the team together. I never doubted the FO, i thought it would be too much money to keep them. I figured Brooks would be 5M first year and not just over 3M, hell of a job by Baalke and Marathe on getting it done.

I will say if we get a tender sheet from another team for grant and he gets the 2nd rd tender, it will be a long wait to see if we keep him or let him go and we take that 2nd rd pick, which would help if we do trade up. It would also help if we do get Wallace. Have 2 2nds with the ability to trade up into rd 1, or stay put, and get 2 solid players.

I would take the 2nd rounder because we could get another quality player at a position of need, or trade up farther in the first for a guy like Janoris Jenkins, depending on what happens.

agreed, plus Grant wont play much. Willis and Bowman aren't coming out for a long period, both will want to play every down.

I would love a guy like Jenkins.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
After seeing Brooks' deal, I have to think similar first year numbers, 4M for Alex, 4M for Rogers, 2M for Snyder, Costanzo will get around 1.2M, Morgan would be 1.5M(2M average).

Rogers will be, if signed, 6M average. Alex 7-8M average.

If those numbers are like that, that takes away 12.7M, plus the 2.6M for draftees(top 3 rounds, around 4.5M total) leaves us 5.932M, add in though extra 390K each for bumping a player off, gives us an additional 1.56M so up to 7.492M, plus the 3.3M for Spencer, and 2.45M for Haralson, puts us up to 13.242M, and that is with those 4 signed, plus Goldson and Brooks, tenders, etc...

I am very happy with the way its going, low cap numbers for 2012, higher when the cap goes up. With that 13M we could easily get a top WR, Mike Wallace would work, we get a #1 plus get rid of the 30 slot, which free up at least 800K in pro-rated bonus.

Niner FO + AB = Peace-of-mind!

The future's so bright, you gotta wear !

Thanks my good man, appreciate the kind words.

I was probably the biggest one to come out and say we couldn't keep our guys, but with the structuring it can happen, plus a #1 WR is possible. Whether it happens, we will have to see, it's what I love about free agency, anything can happen. Time to improve and keep the team together. I never doubted the FO, i thought it would be too much money to keep them. I figured Brooks would be 5M first year and not just over 3M, hell of a job by Baalke and Marathe on getting it done.

I will say if we get a tender sheet from another team for grant and he gets the 2nd rd tender, it will be a long wait to see if we keep him or let him go and we take that 2nd rd pick, which would help if we do trade up. It would also help if we do get Wallace. Have 2 2nds with the ability to trade up into rd 1, or stay put, and get 2 solid players.

I would take the 2nd rounder because we could get another quality player at a position of need, or trade up farther in the first for a guy like Janoris Jenkins, depending on what happens.

agreed, plus Grant wont play much. Willis and Bowman aren't coming out for a long period, both will want to play every down.

I would love a guy like Jenkins.

same here! jenkins is my draft crush but my favorite position is CB so im a lil bias on that. But jenkins could be the next best corner to come out and we would no doubt have the best defense in the nfl. So the guy smokes some weed...as long as he uses a vap im fine
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Maybe we will get lucky and Rogers will pull a Goldson and overprice himself until all he can get is a crap deal.
Originally posted by JustinNiner:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
After seeing Brooks' deal, I have to think similar first year numbers, 4M for Alex, 4M for Rogers, 2M for Snyder, Costanzo will get around 1.2M, Morgan would be 1.5M(2M average).

Rogers will be, if signed, 6M average. Alex 7-8M average.

If those numbers are like that, that takes away 12.7M, plus the 2.6M for draftees(top 3 rounds, around 4.5M total) leaves us 5.932M, add in though extra 390K each for bumping a player off, gives us an additional 1.56M so up to 7.492M, plus the 3.3M for Spencer, and 2.45M for Haralson, puts us up to 13.242M, and that is with those 4 signed, plus Goldson and Brooks, tenders, etc...

I am very happy with the way its going, low cap numbers for 2012, higher when the cap goes up. With that 13M we could easily get a top WR, Mike Wallace would work, we get a #1 plus get rid of the 30 slot, which free up at least 800K in pro-rated bonus.

Niner FO + AB = Peace-of-mind!

The future's so bright, you gotta wear !

Thanks my good man, appreciate the kind words.

I was probably the biggest one to come out and say we couldn't keep our guys, but with the structuring it can happen, plus a #1 WR is possible. Whether it happens, we will have to see, it's what I love about free agency, anything can happen. Time to improve and keep the team together. I never doubted the FO, i thought it would be too much money to keep them. I figured Brooks would be 5M first year and not just over 3M, hell of a job by Baalke and Marathe on getting it done.

I will say if we get a tender sheet from another team for grant and he gets the 2nd rd tender, it will be a long wait to see if we keep him or let him go and we take that 2nd rd pick, which would help if we do trade up. It would also help if we do get Wallace. Have 2 2nds with the ability to trade up into rd 1, or stay put, and get 2 solid players.

I would take the 2nd rounder because we could get another quality player at a position of need, or trade up farther in the first for a guy like Janoris Jenkins, depending on what happens.

agreed, plus Grant wont play much. Willis and Bowman aren't coming out for a long period, both will want to play every down.

I would love a guy like Jenkins.

same here! jenkins is my draft crush but my favorite position is CB so im a lil bias on that. But jenkins could be the next best corner to come out and we would no doubt have the best defense in the nfl. So the guy smokes some weed...as long as he uses a vap im fine

He doesnt smoke anymore lol
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
$21.232M under with the following.

Brooks- $3.05M
Goldson- $6.2M franchise tender
Brock- $540K tender as EFA
Tukuafu- $645K tender as EFA
Grant- $1.927M tender as RFA, 2nd round tender
Spillman- projected $1.215M salary ($615K base and $600K bonus)

Gotcha. Do you think we are willing to pay Grant close to 2 mil to be a backup? He doesn't make too many plays on special teams.
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Originally posted by AB83Rules:
After seeing Brooks' deal, I have to think similar first year numbers, 4M for Alex, 4M for Rogers, 2M for Snyder, Costanzo will get around 1.2M, Morgan would be 1.5M(2M average).

Rogers will be, if signed, 6M average. Alex 7-8M average.

If those numbers are like that, that takes away 12.7M, plus the 2.6M for draftees(top 3 rounds, around 4.5M total) leaves us 5.932M, add in though extra 390K each for bumping a player off, gives us an additional 1.56M so up to 7.492M, plus the 3.3M for Spencer, and 2.45M for Haralson, puts us up to 13.242M, and that is with those 4 signed, plus Goldson and Brooks, tenders, etc...

I am very happy with the way its going, low cap numbers for 2012, higher when the cap goes up. With that 13M we could easily get a top WR, Mike Wallace would work, we get a #1 plus get rid of the 30 slot, which free up at least 800K in pro-rated bonus.
I trust AB's math more than SD's math