Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
9ers lifer has made a couple points that are worthy of discussing, and (1)I agree that craps is going to end up elsewhere, and we are going to try and package him with our 2nd or possibly first pick for either a run at blackmon, or another top tier , but lesser quality than blakmon. Also I agree we are going to bring in a #1WR in FA, and that means with craps we have two #1s, so $$wise that won't fly. Bowe, Vincent Jackson, Colston, (2)williams(steelers) are all possibles. But if we bring one of those guys in, no way are baalke et al going to be paying craps #1money, hence, I believe, his time here is coming to a close. Craps has played up to a #4 or #5 WR, not a #1. I have posted elsewhere the why of this, but basically, he just ain;t worth #1 money as a WR. Bringing in a FA will require #1 money, hence adios Craps. I differ with 9erslifer in that i think we do keep morgan, as he is a #3 or maybe #4 anyway. Kyle and ginn can be the #5. But we need that FA as #1WR, and #2 from the draft. Best bet of doing that is to package craps and our #2 pick, for a hi draft WR maybe even #1, just to unload craps so we can pay our FA #1 money.. Do the math and bringing in a FA #1 means craps either takes an 80% paycut, or he gets gone. No way he takes a paycut. It's a tough world when you think you should be paid way more than you are worth. Craps is about to find that out. We'll know soon enough, once FA begins.But once we sign a FA as #1, adios craps.
1. After a decent season I could see it happening but the fact that he disappeared after the first quarter in the Saints game could really scare off some potential trade partners. To land Blackmon without risk we would have to trade all the way up to #6 with Washington in order to leapfrog Jacksonville(the most wr hungry team in the league), Carolina(steve smith is all they have), Buffalo(if they lose Stevie). I'm not sure what value Crabtree has in terms of the point system but we'd be getting ourselves into a Julio Jones trade if not more expensive because we are later in the round then the Falcon were last year and the Falcons moved up to #6 to get jones.
Floyd could probably be had around the #10 pick maybe the low teens but I'm legitimately worried that one of the teams I mentioned above will grab Floyd right after Blackmon is taken or a team from high teens will try and trade up for him.
2. You mean Mike Wallace, not Williams, but yes at this point in his development if the Steelers did not franchise him I would gladly pay a #1 pick for Wallace if he is tendered. He deserves the big money contract that Crabtree is eating up for next 3 years(2012: 3.5M 2013: 4.5M 2014: 3.5). Crabtree is lucky those numbers are below $5M or I would seriously think people would start clamoring for the 9ers to cut or trade him if he doesn't improve.
#5 WR - I think Kyle Williams will be in a camp competition against Bogan. If Williams loses he gets cut, if Bogan loses he probably ends up on the practice squad to keep KW motivated and ready to take over should KW screw up.
#4 WR - I would be content with Ginn at #4 but I think we should let him walk if he is asking any kind of a pay rise. I posted in the Dontavia Bogan thread that he was a monster in the KR area in college. If he is capable of doing the same with punts then I would be much more in favor of the idea of using Bogan as the KR/PR guy. Draft choices to offset letting Ginn walk are: Eric Page, TJ Graham, TY Hilton. I'd rather spend little on a late round draft pick or Bogan and see what they can bring to the table in terms of receiving, they dont have to do much to improve off of Ginn's WR performace.
#3 WR - Josh Morgan is probably the best receiver for this role, a capable slot receiver but also a somewhat reliable deep threat. No reason to change his role at this point. Although he could become the #2 if things play out a certain way. If for some unknown reason we lost Morgan I would immediately focus our attention to Robert Meachem.
#2 WR - This will be Crabtree if sign a big name guy like Vincent Jackson, but if we draft a rookie in rounds 1 - 3 I would still reluctantly consider Crabtree the "#1 receiver". Reliable rookie options at this point: Rueben Randle, Stephen Hill, Brian Quick.
#1 WR - This will be the only way we venture into the FA market is for a true, battle tested #1. Mike Wallace would get my vote if he is only tendered and not franchised. I'd gladly trade our #1 pick for a known commodity and as I mentioned above we could trade crabtree and give that money to Wallace in a new deal and draft a guy like Stephen Hill or Brian Quick to rotate with Josh Morgan as he develops. I am not okay with the idea of spending a massive amount of money and a 5 or 6 year contract on a receiver like Colston or VJAX when they'll hit 30 this season(Jackson) or next(Colston). VJAX is a tremendous talent but I would rather get a guy like Mike Wallace or Steve Johnson who still has room to grow and are still young, 25 and 26 respectively.
[ Edited by sfout on Feb 16, 2012 at 10:35 AM ]