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Is there any 49er that is more over-rated than Delanie Walker?

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Originally posted by titan:
The role Walker plays for us is very hard to upgrade. TE/WR/Blocker/ Sp teams? I don't think the Jack of all trades backup is a position you can really upgrade. I think the starting TE position really can use some help. We are really blaming Walker for VD's shortcomings. In reality VD needs to be more productive to where we don't need to give Walker that many looks.

I disagree. My primary complaint is with Walker's hands which is something that has little to do with VD's production. Moreover, the reason why Walker is even in the game is because Williams and Manningham went down.
Walker is always in the game because he is probably our 2nd or 3rd best skill position blocker and we are primarily a run team. They have him executing blocks on DT's. So while his drops and even fumbles at times leave a lot to be desired, he does sooo many other things well. I would say he is far from OVER-rated because most fans only look at his stats and don't rate him highly at all
This week, Delanie Walker, who had a team-best 16.4 yards per catch, estimated he caught 500 balls from a JUGS machine during practice in an effort to eliminate his drops.


Two amazing statements there.

1. He had a team high average per catch!

2. It took him this long to hit the JUGS machine!

Having the most drops in the NFL is embarrassing.
[ Edited by ArmchairQB on Jan 19, 2013 at 4:50 PM ]
Originally posted by ArmchairQB:
This week, Delanie Walker, who had a team-best 16.4 yards per catch, estimated he caught 500 balls from a JUGS machine during practice in an effort to eliminate his drops.


Two amazing statements there.

1. He had a team high average per catch!

2. It took him this long to hit the JUGS machine!

Having the most drops in the NFL is embarrassing.

If he could develop his hands, he would be such a dangerous weapon, not all too different from a guy like Aaron Hernandez. If teams had to really, I mean REALLY, worry about him as a major threat, it would open the offense up even more. I would LOVE to see him develop into a reliable pass catcher but after this many years in his career, I just don't see it all of a sudden changing.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Jan 19, 2013 at 4:54 PM ]
I see this guy doing 2 things and only 2 things
A) Dropping passes
B) Laughing with opponents
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by titan:
The role Walker plays for us is very hard to upgrade. TE/WR/Blocker/ Sp teams? I don't think the Jack of all trades backup is a position you can really upgrade. I think the starting TE position really can use some help. We are really blaming Walker for VD's shortcomings. In reality VD needs to be more productive to where we don't need to give Walker that many looks.

LOL.....and why not exactly? Walker was a 6th round WR. You can draft a TE that will do a solid job as a blocker, be far more reliable as a pass catcher and improve the offense even further.


This "jack of all trades" rubbish is absurd. Yes, hold on to a guy because he can do like a dozen different things, except only one of them really well, and is a major detriment in the passing game considering how many snaps the #2 TE gets in this offense.

Lol.Name me another 6th rd. pick that blocks from a TE and effectively from the back field that can also line up as a WR! Find me a player like that and I guarantee you we will over pay for him. That would mean less money to resign our starting players. They should really just stop playing madden football! People think every player has to be a star. Teams need players like Walker to do the dirty job, but apparently that is under appreciated now.
Delanie! you need to be on your freaking A game bro! No lapse's in concentration, no dropped balls.

Just smooth catches and big YAC. #Stepyagameup
Originally posted by titan:
Lol.Name me another 6th rd. pick that blocks from a TE and effectively from the back field that can also line up as a WR! Find me a player like that and I guarantee you we will over pay for him. That would mean less money to resign our starting players. They should really just stop playing madden football! People think every player has to be a star. Teams need players like Walker to do the dirty job, but apparently that is under appreciated now.

Of course, because asking a guy who plays over 50% of the offensive snaps to be able to hold on to the damn ball and not lead the NFL in drops percentage is just asking way too much.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Jan 19, 2013 at 8:40 PM ]
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by titan:
Lol.Name me another 6th rd. pick that blocks from a TE and effectively from the back field that can also line up as a WR! Find me a player like that and I guarantee you we will over pay for him. That would mean less money to resign our starting players. They should really just stop playing madden football! People think every player has to be a star. Teams need players like Walker to do the dirty job, but apparently that is under appreciated now.

Of course, because asking a guy who plays over 50% of the offensive snaps to be able to hold on to the damn ball and not lead the NFL in drops percentage is just asking way too much.

Yeah blame the guy. Like you said plays 50% of the offense in a 16 game season and only targeted 36 times in the passing game. There's also a very good chance he was the 3rd or 4 th look. My point is he may have some drops but he is not the focus of our team. He does play an important part.
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https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/01/22/signature-stats-drop-rate-tight-ends/
Originally posted by Jcool:


https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/01/22/signature-stats-drop-rate-tight-ends/
Ouch! That sums it up pretty well
he is a good steady player ...
If he'd make all his catches and Akers made all his kicks, we'd be undefeated
Stats aren't everything, some of these fans just don't get that. He's more valuable than Ginn to say the least.
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Stats aren't everything, some of these fans just don't get that. He's more valuable than Ginn to say the least.

That is one of the most random comparisons I've ever heard.

What the hell does that have to do with him being unable to hold on to the ball???
Originally posted by Jcool:


https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/01/22/signature-stats-drop-rate-tight-ends/

We target him far too often, especially in crucial situations. He's not reliable.