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Is there any 49er that is more over-rated than Delanie Walker?

  • titan
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by titan:
The answer is YES! Walker is a 4th rd pick VD is a 1st rd. That sums it up for me.

6th round pick actually.

That makes it worse for Davis!
  • cools
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I have been a big fan of D'Walker over the years, but I'll be expecting the Niners to upgrade that position in the off season, too many drops
[ Edited by cools on Jan 13, 2013 at 9:16 AM ]
  • sfout
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Originally posted by 4t9ers:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Joe Buck mentioned that during the season Walker dropped 8 passes out of 39 targets. That means he's dropping the ball about 20% of the time. Totally unacceptable. He is what he is. A tremendously versatile player who doesn't quite have the hands/concentration needed to be a featured player in the passing game. He can be pretty darn good in spots though.


those numbers cant be right, right?

he had 4 drops last night alone

They are right. Walker drops 1 pass out of every 5 targets, which isn't that terrible but as Crabtree said last year after the NFCCG - People talk bad about a player who gets thrown to 5 times and he drops 2 of them but guys who get targeted 10-15 times a game and 5 are dropped or not catchable but he has 80-100 yards and TD he had an "amazing" game. It's all perception based.

You have to give people the opportunity to make plays, does Walker really deserve that? No he doesn't because he's our #2 TE and realistically at the moment our FIFTH best option, when we're healthy he's 6th or lower on the totem pole if you will.
Originally posted by titan:
That makes it worse for Davis!

When Walker goes for 200 yards receiving in the playoffs, I'll agree with you.
We need to draft a better pass catching TE.
*double post*
[ Edited by 9erfanAUS on Jan 13, 2013 at 9:26 AM ]
  • titan
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The role Walker plays for us is very hard to upgrade. TE/WR/Blocker/ Sp teams? I don't think the Jack of all trades backup is a position you can really upgrade. I think the starting TE position really can use some help. We are really blaming Walker for VD's shortcomings. In reality VD needs to be more productive to where we don't need to give Walker that many looks.
Originally posted by titan:
The role Walker plays for us is very hard to upgrade. TE/WR/Blocker/ Sp teams? I don't think the Jack of all trades backup is a position you can really upgrade. I think the starting TE position really can use some help. We are really blaming Walker for VD's shortcomings. In reality VD needs to be more productive to where we don't need to give Walker that many looks.

I disagree. My primary complaint is with Walker's hands which is something that has little to do with VD's production. Moreover, the reason why Walker is even in the game is because Williams and Manningham went down.
  • titan
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Walker has played a role on our team for the last four years and it has nothing to do with the other WR injuries. Walker on the field getting the ball thrown to him has everything to do with VD non production.
Originally posted by titan:
The role Walker plays for us is very hard to upgrade. TE/WR/Blocker/ Sp teams? I don't think the Jack of all trades backup is a position you can really upgrade. I think the starting TE position really can use some help. We are really blaming Walker for VD's shortcomings. In reality VD needs to be more productive to where we don't need to give Walker that many looks.

LOL.....and why not exactly? Walker was a 6th round WR. You can draft a TE that will do a solid job as a blocker, be far more reliable as a pass catcher and improve the offense even further.


This "jack of all trades" rubbish is absurd. Yes, hold on to a guy because he can do like a dozen different things, except only one of them really well, and is a major detriment in the passing game considering how many snaps the #2 TE gets in this offense.
It seems he makes catches that he shouldn't and drops the easy catchable passes. Go figure?
  • cciowa
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i hate him and with his drops last night i can not believe he has any fans left around here
It's a bitter-sweet feeling. He has 10 f**kups in a row, but then he'll do everything right at the end to earn some forgiveness. Sucked it up all night long, but then caught a big pass in the 4th to get us a first down, and then recovered the onside kick with no hesitation.

He's a good blocker. I think we should keep him.
  • cciowa
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i am sick of keeping certain players cuz they can only do one thing well. we did that with ginn and that did not turn out well and keeping walker cuz he blocks well is illogical. i think we can find two decent tight ends who can both catch and block,, it should not be that hard
Walker has never had great hands or even good hands for that matter. Whereas Vernon Davis's disappearance has occurred in this season only. One has nothing to do with the other. Considering what Davis's production has been from 2009 to 2011, I would expect what happen this season to not be the norm. We can't say the same for Delanie Walker. I like him as a player, but he cannot be the no. 2 TE in this offense.