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WRATHman44
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Originally posted by GBNinerFan:
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
Originally posted by GBNinerFan:
The 1 drop that sticks out in my mind that pisses me off the most is the would be TD against the Rams. Other than that, I don't think Walker is as bad as a lot of people think.
21 catches and 9 drops (4 of which were touchdowns). Nahhh hes not as bad as we think. lol
Again, where is the number 9 coming from? He's not even the starter, and like someone said above, he does a lot of other things a number 2 TE don't. Shouldn't we feel fortunate that we have a backup that could possible start on some other teams? I am.
Not sure exactly who he would start for.
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Squidp
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Watching the DWalk Mic'd up video shows how versatile he is. Also he is fast as hell. Ran right by the defender before coming back and making the grab
[ Edited by Squidp on Jan 2, 2013 at 3:13 PM ]
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SunDevilNiner79
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I've been a big time hater of Delanie......until the last month or so. Walker has really stepped up his game and played great. Some good chemistry with him and Kaep.
Amazing what can happen when you dont drop passes
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PowderdToastMn
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Originally posted by Squidp:
Watching the DWalk Mic'd up video shows how versatile he is. Also he is fast as hell. Ran right by the defender before coming back and making the grab
Agreed. He is inconsistent a lot of times but other than that he is a great team guy to have. Not many former WRs would line up as a H-back and hit people as much as he does. Not to mention he's a threat in the passing game and also is on special teams.
I'm hoping he gets brought back.
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LifelongNiner
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
One of the primary reasons he's out there is to catch the ball, if he's incapable of doing that, then the team is better off using an offensive lineman who can't catch worth s**t either but is a better blocker. Do you want a 6'0", 240 guy blocking or a 6'4", 300+ blocker? Part of being the #2 TE in this offense is the ability to make plays when the defense leaves you open due to having cover guys like VD, Crabtree...etc. If you can't make those catches, then you need to GTFO.
Now that you mention it, it would be nice to see Joe Staley lining up at TE a little more
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Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Allx9er:
if anybody round here has really framed/stated what they want out of a #2te whether it be walker or anybody else. The position itself is an important part of our offense and has a pretty big impact on how the game is called imo.
Some people understate it in an almost obnoxious fashion, of the "oh....he's ONLY A #2 TE....what do YOU expect?" variety, forgetting that the #2 TE in this offense sees significantly more snaps than the vast majority of #2 TE's in the league.
It should be someone that can block capably, as well as being a threat to receive and actually make the catches when the ball gets passed to them.
In Before......"oh he's a jack of all trades, you can't put value on what he does, he can block, return kicks, punt, serve popcorn, park cars, rescue senior citizens from a burning nursing home....."
21 catches and 9 drops....including 4 in the endzone. To have about a 50% drop rate is just plain embarrassing.
wide open game winners against the Rams count as +3.
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HouseNiner
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If Dez Bryant played for the 49ers, he would be Delanie Walker. I see a lot of parallels between the two and that to me is a good thing. Dez can be inconsistent at times but he's a top notch performer and gives it his best effort.
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LieutKaffee
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Originally posted by HouseNiner:
If Dez Bryant played for the 49ers, he would be Delanie Walker. I see a lot of parallels between the two and that to me is a good thing. Dez can be inconsistent at times but he's a top notch performer and gives it his best effort.
If Dez Bryant played for the 49ers, he would be an elite WR... just like he is for the Cowboys. Delanie Walker is a below-average tight end.
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PhillyNiner
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Great feet and superior versatility but marginal ( at best) hands. If he didnt do so much for the team in other areas and wasnt so good at getting open for those oportunities we wouldnt be so down on him strangely enough. We forget he is the backup tight end. How many offenses not residing in New England get nearly as much use out of their second TE as we do....there arent many if any. Its frustrating because if he could catch he would probably be a star, maybe even enter into the conversation with Vernon for who should be the number one....and definitley would be getting a lot of looks by other teams to start elsewhere. I am not sure if its a focus problem, or just that he fights the ball or what, but we need him in the playoffs....he has to start catching his targets more reliably, he is the guy thats getting left open when Vernon draws attention, They cant leave Crabs and Moss alone...so Delanie is the guy who is drawing a LB for coverage...if he starts burning teams for their one sided focus on Vern...we will be all the more dangerous.
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Leathaface
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Runs solid routes and seems to get open...is also a great blocker
Dude just has stone hands and fumbling issues that date way back.
Just needs to not drop the ball and he's ok in my book. Luckily none of his or Akers' failures cost us the #2 seed.
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Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by Wodwo:
Maybe they haven't been updated because you're the only one that thinks they were drops.
Think what you want. I'm not going to change your mind.
The only people who matter are the coaches and Kap. They both trust Walker.
Now you can herp and derp elsewhere.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/
--Delanie Walker's drop rate of 30 percent (21 catches, nine drops) was worst of any running back, wide receiver or tight end who had 30 or more targets.
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Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by blizzuntz:
his math = accuracy of Akers
https://www.profootballfocus.com/ I nail it from the 50 EVERY single time!
Delanie Walker's drop rate of 30 percent (21 catches, nine drops) was worst of any running back, wide receiver or tight end who had 30 or more targets.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Jan 3, 2013 at 9:23 AM ]
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Phoenix49ers
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"For Kaepernick, he made strong throws throughout the afternoon, including a perfect corner route to tight end Delanie Walker that was dropped in the end zone early in the third. "
Wasn't the first, won't be the last.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/01/01/refo-cardinals-49ers-week-17/
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GNielsen
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It would be nice if the Niners could find in the draft a TE to play opposite Davis who was a natural pass catcher like Grahm or Gonzolez. The guy from Stanford has great hands - I don't know if anyone saw him stretch out for that long pass in the Rose Bowl, but he's good. He's probably gone before the Niners pick and they really should consider moving up for a stud defensive lineman in the first round anyway.
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80sbaby24
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Originally posted by GBNinerFan:
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
Originally posted by GBNinerFan:
The 1 drop that sticks out in my mind that pisses me off the most is the would be TD against the Rams. Other than that, I don't think Walker is as bad as a lot of people think.
21 catches and 9 drops (4 of which were touchdowns). Nahhh hes not as bad as we think. lol
Again, where is the number 9 coming from? He's not even the starter, and like someone said above, he does a lot of other things a number 2 TE don't. Shouldn't we feel fortunate that we have a backup that could possible start on some other teams? I am.
I dont understand your question. What do you mean where is the number 9 coming from? There are a ton of credible media outlets and statisticians that have published that number. 9 drops and 21 catches? Dude is dropping passes at a higher rate than any player in the NFL.
And if you feel fortunate that he could possibly start on other teams (although I dont agree), then fine. Thats your prerogative. But he isnt very good, #2 or not.