Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
It always starts and stops with the OL...I'm am convinced that a good OL trumps a good QB or WRs. Our OL..sorry Staley...sucks.
I agree, this is why:
1) Dilfer was able to win a Super Bowl. Had one of the greatest lines in the NFL, featuring future hall of famer Jonathan Ogden
2) Peyton Manning has had is able to do SOME of the things he was able to do. He, too, played with one of the best linemen in the NFL in his earlier years. He was sacked only 16 times in 2008 and 2009. I don't care how quick you are at getting the ball out. A number that low in back to back years is outstanding. This year, they lost almost every starter on the OL except for Saturday. .. It's not just Manning that hurt that team.
1) That is the exception, not the rule. Majority of Super Bowl winning teams have an all-pro QB.
2) Manning had to deal with line issues all his career. When he first came into the league onto a last place team, the line was horrible. By year two Manning was already playing great. Marvin Harrison was a nobody until Manning showed up. Maning play elevated his Wrs as well (Stokley, Garcon, Hernangez, R. Wayne etcc). Thos guys once leaving Indy don't come near their stats with Manning. And getting the ball out fast and accurate has a lot to do with how many sacks you get. I don't think the Colts go winless with Manning in there, no matter who he is playing with on the Oline. Its not a concidence Manning goes out and Texans win the division. If Manning was in they'd be challeging the Texans for that divisin, if not taking it over with the losses of Shaub, A. Johnson, and M. Williams.
[ Edited by Young2Rice on Dec 13, 2011 at 4:39 PM ]