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Post Game Grades per Grant Cohn

Originally posted by leakyfausett:
Originally posted by Baugh_Area:
Quarterback: C-. Alex Smith muffed what should have been the signature play of his career. On fourth down – the last play of the game – he rolled right, searching for a receiver. He looked like Joe Montana before he made the throw that led to the "The Catch," except he didn't throw it. He spun to his left to buy more time, and then he spun to his right once more. At this point he was 25 yards behind the line of scrimmage. Then he sprinted toward the line of scrimmage, pointed at Kendall Hunter, stopped running, set his feet and overthrew a simple 20-yard pass to Hunter, who was crossing the field towards the right sideline. Hunter had to dive just to get his fingertips on the ball. Smith has to make that throw – has to. He didn't, and the Niners lost. Here are his stats: 18 for 37, 175 yards, 62.3 rating. His completion percentage wouldn't have been as low as it was (49%) if his receivers hadn't dropped so many passes, but he still didn't play well enough to win.
That is funny because the Montana throw was not very good Dwight Clark made a great catch. Hunter let it go threw his hands not fingers.

OMFG

Our precious legacy is being destroyed by these type of posts.
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Originally posted by Shaj:
Smith is great when he has a devastating defense and devastating ST and outstanding oline blocking and perfect coaching and receivers that never drop the ball. He is not clutch in the absence of any of those though. Our O is not playoff worthy. Today's game was very sobering to watch.

stop trolling bro...

There is no way you can write what you just did and honestly believe it? What QB in the history of the NFL has succeeded when recievers drop passes and the O line f**ks up blocking? your football IQ is so elementary its annoying.
Cohn just doing his bit in supporting the players and the coaches in putting out bad press. Coach JH says 'jump b***h' and Cohn jumps.
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Originally posted by modninerfan:
Originally posted by Shaj:
Smith is great when he has a devastating defense and devastating ST and outstanding oline blocking and perfect coaching and receivers that never drop the ball. He is not clutch in the absence of any of those though. Our O is not playoff worthy. Today's game was very sobering to watch.

stop trolling bro...

There is no way you can write what you just did and honestly believe it? What QB in the history of the NFL has succeeded when recievers drop passes and the O line f**ks up blocking? your football IQ is so elementary its annoying.

Ok, or you just have a boner for ALex Smith, which one?

How can you deny that this D and ST has given Alex Smith a golden opportunity to win every game? Even this game our average starting field position was what, Arizona's 49? and there's was our 19? Get a clue.
Originally posted by Baugh_Area:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Baugh_Area:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Baugh_Area:
Quarterback: C-. Alex Smith muffed what should have been the signature play of his career. On fourth down – the last play of the game – he rolled right, searching for a receiver. He looked like Joe Montana before he made the throw that led to the "The Catch," except he didn't throw it. He spun to his left to buy more time, and then he spun to his right once more. At this point he was 25 yards behind the line of scrimmage. Then he sprinted toward the line of scrimmage, pointed at Kendall Hunter, stopped running, set his feet and overthrew a simple 20-yard pass to Hunter, who was crossing the field towards the right sideline. Hunter had to dive just to get his fingertips on the ball. Smith has to make that throw – has to. He didn't, and the Niners lost. Here are his stats: 18 for 37, 175 yards, 62.3 rating. His completion percentage wouldn't have been as low as it was (49%) if his receivers hadn't dropped so many passes, but he still didn't play well enough to win.

Wide receivers: C-. Michael Crabtree played well against Patrick Peterson, a tough matchup, catching seven passes for 63 yards. He also made the key block downfield on Gore's touchdown run. Kyle Williams played well the few times he got the ball. Braylon Edwards was slow to get out of his breaks all afternoon, and he missed both passes thrown his way. Ginn Jr. egregiously missed a touchdown pass, never even seeing the ball in the air. Kyle Williams needs to start and get more targets, period. Ginn Jr. should be used on the fly sweep and Edwards should not play.

Tight ends: F+. Delanie Walker had an atrocious game – losing six yards by trying to reverse field on a bubble screen, and then dropping a pass when he was wide open. Vernon Davis made a great run after the catch on a 32 yard play, but that was only one of three targets he got on the day. That's not enough. On the last drive, he got flagged for a terrible false start on second and five. Harbaugh whipped his face in disgust after that one.

Good, then we agree they ALL suck, not just ALex's supporting cast.

Edwards and Ginn have sucked.

This is true of any QB not just Alex, if your supporting cast doesn't do anything, there is nothing you can do.

There IS something he can do, but he didn't do it. Give me a break, Crabs is above average, Ginn has made plays. SO what, he missed that ball that was 7 yards left of him? Alex overthrew him twice last game, give the guy a break!

Ginn is crap at WR, if you are defending him after another major f**k up you don't understand QB to WR logic. Ginn could of adjusted to get that ball had he LOOKED FOR IT.

What would you have him do?

Let me explain what you aren't seeing on the television, Crabs and Vernon are getting double teamed because they are threats. The D is leaving guys like Ginn and Edwards single covered because they either don't catch the ball or know Alex wont throw it that way because he doesn't trust them. Crabs is not going to out run Peterson deep so that option is gone and Vernon is being shadowed all day.
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Originally posted by Baugh_Area:
Originally posted by modninerfan:
Originally posted by Shaj:
Smith is great when he has a devastating defense and devastating ST and outstanding oline blocking and perfect coaching and receivers that never drop the ball. He is not clutch in the absence of any of those though. Our O is not playoff worthy. Today's game was very sobering to watch.

stop trolling bro...

There is no way you can write what you just did and honestly believe it? What QB in the history of the NFL has succeeded when recievers drop passes and the O line f**ks up blocking? your football IQ is so elementary its annoying.

Ok, or you just have a boner for ALex Smith, which one?

How can you deny that this D and ST has given Alex Smith a golden opportunity to win every game? Even this game our average starting field position was what, Arizona's 49? and there's was our 19? Get a clue.

somebody gets it....
Originally posted by jreff22:
Coaching: F.

Gore averaged 7.2 yards per carry but rushed just ten times in a close game. That's inexcusable. Clearly Harbaugh and his staff were trying to rest him, but that was the wrong decision because they couldn't afford to do that today. If it weren't for Gore, the Niners entire offense would have been David Akers. Harabugh was trying to be too cute, trying to win without his best offensive player. If he tries that against Seattle in two weeks, the Niners will lose that one, too.

The offense struggled to pick up the blitz again today. Can Harbaugh and his staff correct that problem this season? If they haven't already, the answer is probably no. The Cardinals blitzed all day and the Niners tried to run into it, which didn't work, and they tried long-developing play action plays, which really didn't work. Roman called one halfback screen to Hunter and it picked up ten yards. He should have called five of those.

In the red zone his play calling was just as bad. He had Smith throw one-read, designed fades to Edwards and Ginn Jr., both of whom failed to catch the ball, of course. I understand Smith couldn't throw to Crabtree or Davis in the red zone because the Cardinals were doubling them. But the coaches needed to put Kyle Williams in the game and have Alex Smith throw those fades to him. Williams made the best fade catch of the year back in Week 2 against Dallas. He's proven he should start and yet he doesn't. Williams had six targets in the game – he should have had 12.

This is Greg Roman and Jim Harbaugh's fault. They need to figure out something to fix their offense quickly because they're running out of time.

http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/2011/12/inside-the-49ers/week-14-grades/

Agree, 100 %. They should know better than to put the game into the hands of their QB and WRs.

It's obvious Harbaugh and Co have been testing our passing offense the last few games and overall its been an epic fail.
take out the 37 yard outlier and you have 9 carries for 35 yards, so about 3.9 a pop.

this analysis is fail
Originally posted by LloydsKittyKat:
take out the 37 yard outlier and you have 9 carries for 35 yards, so about 3.9 a pop.

this analysis is fail

and take away a touchdown scored by the cardinals and we win the game. I don't understand your logic.
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Originally posted by Baugh_Area:
Originally posted by modninerfan:
Originally posted by Shaj:
Smith is great when he has a devastating defense and devastating ST and outstanding oline blocking and perfect coaching and receivers that never drop the ball. He is not clutch in the absence of any of those though. Our O is not playoff worthy. Today's game was very sobering to watch.

stop trolling bro...

There is no way you can write what you just did and honestly believe it? What QB in the history of the NFL has succeeded when recievers drop passes and the O line f**ks up blocking? your football IQ is so elementary its annoying.

Ok, or you just have a boner for ALex Smith, which one?

How can you deny that this D and ST has given Alex Smith a golden opportunity to win every game? Even this game our average starting field position was what, Arizona's 49? and there's was our 19? Get a clue.

Did you not read what I said? answer it bud... how can a QB succeed if the receivers dont catch and the linemen dont block? they CANT!

Our problems are bigger than Alex Smith. When the team shows up, he shows up. Its been that way just about all season. But when everybody starts f**king up its a lets blame Alex fest. People new to the game of football tend to gravitate towards one position and its the QB, they're not capable of seeing the bigger picture. We had multiple opportunities to win this game dude, and every one of those opportunities were f**ked up by the coaching staff, the offensive linemen and the receivers.

Yes the Defense put them in a position to succeed and the Alex Smith led offense failed. The defense has been the only consistant thing all year. But Alex only had a couple bonehead plays this game and honestly what QB doesnt? I watched Aaron Rodgers during one redzone situation against the raiders and he f**ked up 3 passes in a row yet nobody is climbing all over his ass about it. when you touch the ball on every single play of the game he's gonna slip every once and awhile. But when your a lineman and you miss blocks on every damn play its inexcusable... when your a receiver you should be catching the ball 9/10 times... not 3/4 of the time. When you see your QB scrambling your ass better be scrambling too, not giving up like Ginn did on the final play. I've been honest and true about Alex his entire career. I dont have a "boner" for him, I dont think he's an All-star, but I think he's a good QB who has had an offense and staff fail him for most of his career... I think there is a group of fans who yearn for his failure, and I think their are a lot of fans who are just football ignorant... I call it like I see it.
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Originally posted by Shaj:
somebody gets it....

when you have a valid argument you can come back and respond, otherwise stick with starting inciting threads only to get your ass shut up by people who actually understand the game.
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Originally posted by modninerfan:
Originally posted by Shaj:
somebody gets it....

when you have a valid argument you can come back and respond, otherwise stick with starting inciting threads only to get your ass shut up by people who actually understand the game.

dude, relax and quit being so holier than thou.
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Originally posted by Shaj:
Originally posted by modninerfan:
Originally posted by Shaj:
somebody gets it....

when you have a valid argument you can come back and respond, otherwise stick with starting inciting threads only to get your ass shut up by people who actually understand the game.

dude, relax and quit being so holier than thou.

I'll stop being holier than thou when I'm wrong.
Originally posted by niners4lyfe:
and take away a touchdown scored by the cardinals and we win the game. I don't understand your logic.

clearly you don't understand statistical analysis 101

if you're making an argument based on stats, you have to account for outliers. this isn't a win the game or lose the game argument. this is an argument saying that because of his average of 7.1 he should have had more carries, yet if you subtract 1 carry, that average takes a nosedive. if you presented that as analysis in a business setting, you'd lose your job over that kind of shotty analysis.
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