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What a difference a season makes: The QB Position suddenly looks bright.

Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by unst4bl3:
Originally posted by Huego:
Originally posted by verb1der:
And people were willing to trade Patrick Willis for Andrew Luck.


I'd still do that

This.

Future HoFer for untried and untested rook who is not apparently as well thought of now as he was at the start of the season?

No.

Hell no, F**k Luck, Willis is gonna break Luck
Our QB situation has definitely improved. Excellent coaching and Alex is playing much better.

He'll be resigned for sure. Kap will grow a lot w/ a second year learning making a huge difference. I really liked what little we saw in Tolzien.

Trade Willis to get Luck - lose the drugs and get a healthy shot of reality.
Let's not forget our future...

Hell, even Crabtree has warmed up to Alex. Of course that could just be MC maturing a little.
Originally posted by ninerfan29:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by ninerfan29:
I already stated my opinion about the guy and I feel its(his name) is not justified whether this forum holds more then US citizens or not. Not all Europeans believe in Socialism or Communism or other. Some would say that because of Socialism and the creation of the Euro, Europe has only gone down hill while China becoming more capitalist in how it handles its economy has become more powerful then even the US who is also under a socialistic regime with Barack Obama. But as you can see his name can bring out Non Football topics and this Forum is for Football not for politics or economics so I will stop here and I will not speak of it no more. Sorry if I just added more kinley to the fire.

I will state that we should not trade Willis for Luck. I think Luck will be a good QB but he is not worth such a trade and I don't think he will work out on the 49ers team. I do understand that he was coached by Jim and because of such chemistry good things could happen. But I feel with our 2 rookie QB's we already have and with a Solid QB in Alex Smith who is getting better every week. It would be in our better interest to improve other parts of our team that are in higher need. Like getting some improvements in our Secondary, OLine, WR's and what ever else that is weak on our team. Also I like Hunter but i'm unsure if he would make a good replacement for Gore so we might want to think about that as well.

Your first paragraph belongs in the Parking Lot. That is where the political and other arguments go.

Indeed it does hence my point on the name :P


@ ninerfan29 - best way to deal with it is not to respond to him/her. No one knowes if Luck is going to succede or not. There have been lots of QBs that have come in highly touted that have failed. Its a crap shoot when selecting any player in the draft. So it would be crazy to make that trade.
Originally posted by GNielsen:
There is no way they get rid of Alex Smith. He's even starting to hit those nice rainbows. If Davis catches that one in the end zone last Sunday, Alex Smith ends up with 335 yards, 3 TD's and no interceptions. What more do you want in a QB. It's the only thing that has been missing from his game and he's just starting to dial it in. Prediction: by the end of this season, no sane person will be even entertaining the idea of trading away Alex Smith to get Andrew Luck. Norv Turner said it years ago: Alex Smith can make every throw. He's like a faster, quicker Troy Aikman. He may not look tough, but think about it - he's tough as nails. He absorbs 9 sacks in a game and never so much as glares at his O-linemen. He never yells at a receiver. He never complains. He just keeps on coming. He's smart and careful. He takes care of the ball. He moves around and scrambles for first downs. He's getting a lot more accurate. He's always thrown a beautiful looking long pass and now he's beginning to tune that part of his game with this playbook. He now has the continuity and the coaching he's always needed. I'm pretty sure the Niners brass didn't expect this level of growth in Smith working with Harbaugh, but now that they've got it, there is no way they let him go.

That's what worries me. I read MM's article regarding JIm Leavitt, but towards the end he talks about Greg Roman.

"Greg Roman, in his first season as 49ers offensive coordinator, would also be a logical college head-coaching candidate. He said he has not been contacted by any schools with vacancies."

http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/niners-talk/post/Gruden-backs-49ers-assistant-for-ASU-ope?blockID=608436&feedID=5936

I hope Alex doesn't have a new OC next year, especially how well he has been developing.
[ Edited by Fresniner on Dec 9, 2011 at 4:07 PM ]
Originally posted by Fresniner:
That's what worries me. I read MM's article regarding Vic Fangio, but towards the end he talks about Greg Roman.

"Greg Roman, in his first season as 49ers offensive coordinator, would also be a logical college head-coaching candidate. He said he has not been contacted by any schools with vacancies."

http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/niners-talk/post/Gruden-backs-49ers-assistant-for-ASU-ope?blockID=608436&feedID=5936

I hope Alex doesn't have a new OC next year, especially how well he has been developing.

wouldnt matter as much this year as its harbaughs system
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
wouldnt matter as much this year as its harbaughs system


According to Jim Harbaugh, the Niner's offense is a Greg Roman offense.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/niners-talk/post/Harbaugh-This-is-a-Greg-Roman-offense?blockID=587088
According to Jim Harbaugh, the Niner's offense is a Greg Roman offense.

Eh, Jim Harbaugh is being a good boss: he takes the blame and gives all the credit to his subordinates. Good bosses want to see their people elevated and do well for themselves. Harbaugh is setting up Roman for an NFL HC gig.
I think Greg Roman brought the base, but all of the coaches (and probably players) collaborate on new folds of the offense. Harbaugh was documented as bringing the fly sweep into the offense.
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by endcapitalism:
The 9er QB situation is average at best.

top 10 is average at best?


Top ten my butt; Alex Smith has nothing top 10 about him. Except he doesn't throw int's. Now if you are talking about the future of Kaps being top 10? I agree
After the dimes Alex dropped on Vernon and Crabtree last week, I'm a believer.
Originally posted by Redgoldknight:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by endcapitalism:
The 9er QB situation is average at best.

top 10 is average at best?


Top ten my butt; Alex Smith has nothing top 10 about him. Except he doesn't throw int's. Now if you are talking about the future of Kaps being top 10? I agree

How can you say that Kaps who you don't even know as hes only played on college and a few snaps this year can be a future top 10. But completely diss Alex Smith and say he has nothing top 10 about him? Can you explain to me what makes Alex so bad that he isn't top 10 material?
Originally posted by Redgoldknight:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by endcapitalism:
The 9er QB situation is average at best.

top 10 is average at best?


Top ten my butt; Alex Smith has nothing top 10 about him. Except he doesn't throw int's. Now if you are talking about the future of Kaps being top 10? I agree

1Aaron Rodgers, QBGB 125.3
2Tom Brady, QBNE 105.9
3Drew Brees, QBNO 105.5
4Tony Romo, QBDAL 97.3
5Matt Schaub, QBHOU 96.8
6Eli Manning, QBNY 96.0
7Ben Roethlisberger, QBPIT 95.6
8Alex Smith, QBSF

Maybe not top ten by your butt, but number 8 by rating.
Originally posted by smashmouth51:
Hell, even Crabtree has warmed up to Alex. Of course that could just be MC maturing a little.

I dont think he is sold on him, but if you winning alot of complaining goes away.